Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I hope they release an update to fix these critical bugs soon. The browser is a big step towards web 2.0, I hope this is one of many great additions to come.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

^ seconded (Milhouse). When are these folks going to realize the iPhone and N800 overlap in some areas but are NOT in the same market space?

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Sadly, it won't be until the Internet Tablet has an actual purpose. Don't take that as a bashing, I have mine, I modded it, and I use it, but in the eyes of the market, it's still desperately reaching to find its purpose in life. What is it really for?

Once they've got a target (is it consumers? geeks? engineers? WHO?!) then it will stand for better comparisons.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I didn't originally had this option but after the edit, it has now appeared. Strange..

In general, there are some bugs like the keyboard appearing when you scroll down the page with the button etc. , but the most annoying is that it loads the pages much slower (when compared to Opera). The cashing though works excellent.

As another poster said, i am curious to know if the slower loading is because of the device's settings or from the beta code of Mozilla?:confused:

EDIT: Forgot to add that I agree with Milhouse and I didnt intended to critisize at all. I am super happy with both the RTCOMM and Mozilla additions. Many thanks to the guys for sharing.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Okay, my lack of xterm knowledge is about to become very apparent. Once I get vi statement entered, and a list of items appears, how do I toggle the false to true? I tried entering text and it wouldn't let me. Do I need to be root, or am I missing something obvious?

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Well, the purpose is and will increasingly be general, so I don't see a singular purpose being identified. Even "internet tablet" is too narrow, as many people have said here numerous times. So IMO that's how it needs to be presented: "Here's everything this little wonder can do. YOU define how much of that broad scope is applicable to your needs. Enjoy!"

I think the ultimate target is anyone wanting most of a laptop's core functionality with a lot less of its bulk. That's certainly me, and with the advent of the new browser, it's almost there as far as I'm concerned. This morning I used my N800 as my laptop and the only thing I couldn't do that I needed to was see my Outlook personal folders. Well, that's not a showstopper for me.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I would propose to install LeafPad. Its much easier to use, like notepad ;)

Then in xterm type:
leafpad .browser

and voila..

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

My personal take on iPhone is that its primary purpose was to replace the aging iPod. Today less people want to carry on multiple devices, and integrating the mobile media player (iPod) and cell phone together makes a lot of sense. On the other hand Nokia (and other cell phone manufacturers) has been doing the same in 'reverse' since they are adding media player capabilities to cell phones... (Didn't I read in some news that Nokia is actually worlds biggest portable MP3 player AND digital camera manufacturer, due to the fact that both of these functions are now part of most Nokia phones sold?) Because of that Apple had no choice but to introduce the new iPod with phone capabilities, thus the name iPhone.

And it does not end here: Today more people use mobile internet and adding the Internet capabilities to iPhone is absolutely must for that device to success... just like most advanced cell phones have.

The N800 is best defined as a mobile phone companion to provide big screen Internet end terminal to compliment mobile data plan. As it is open for third party SW developers lots of other software have been written to it and the "Internet tablet" definition is becoming more blurry...

In the end I do not see N800 and iPhone as direct competitors. The iPhone makes more sense to "general public" wanting to carry one single all-in-one device. The N800 makes more sense to people who already have nice and small (fitting in pants pocket) cell phone and do not always need to carry "Internet terminal" with them, but only when needed. I belong to the latter category... :rolleyes:

Last note that this is MY OPINION and not trying to force you to believe the same... :cool:

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

so what (the hell) is this "i cant't see the switch browser engine option", "google maps (etc.) is NOT working with new browser (as is did even on opera)"?
both matches my situation and the people here are separeted into "works almost fine" and "oh no! switch back!! (if i only could!!!)" fractions.
is this realy caused by restoring my backup? wasn't this the recommended way by nokia? how else can i get back all my config stuff, if not by restoring? and why is this natural thing such a big mistake at all?
thanks steffen

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I think Nokia have pretty much come clean and declared this an exploratory device. I think they more interested in Maemo development for future devices than this generations N800 sales numbers. Nokia considers itself an "Internet Company" not a mobile phone manufacturer and so with this class of device they are attempting to see what the market wants as far as MID's and how the market reacts to open source software. When you ask what is this device for, you might as well ask what is the internet for?

This device is supposed to bring the value of the internet to a smaller portable device (just watch that N800 video on your IT). This Mozilla based browser is a huuuuge step in the right direction as most things on the internet are compatible with IE and Mozilla. The ability to run internet based apps and widgets based on a core that thousands of developers optimize for is the right move instead of relying on web standards like Opera does, which although nice in a perfect world ultimately is not realistic.

This device is not really ready for mass consumption but I think the hardware is close. There are many uses for it but in its core use as an internet access device its almost there.