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bluefoot 2014-09-30 20:24

Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
Well you said "like Qualcomm" and Qualcomm's only two serious competitors are Mediatek and Samsung.

juiceme 2014-09-30 20:43

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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1441241)
Well you said "like Qualcomm" and Qualcomm's only two serious competitors are Mediatek and Samsung.

Yes, that's true. I guess Sammy's almost the one manufacturer that has complete specs of its SOC (the Exynos ones at least) so they can write the drivers and blobs themselves...
And do not forget Apple :D The same goes with it.

All others are in the mercy of the SoC vendors.

For some really obscure reason that quite escapes me, HW vendors think that revealing too much in the driver is going to enable other companies to copy their IP and make competing products. (If that'd be really the case I'd be really surprised... competitors already know almost all of their rival's products)

I rather think they are just embarassed of the poor quality of their code, or else they have something fishy hidden there :eek:

vistaus 2014-09-30 20:44

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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1441230)
You also have to ask if it's even feasible for F-Secure to launch a native app currently. There are major under the hood OS updates in 1.09 and support for Qt 5.2, and as Jolla have chosen not to update SDKs prior to release of new updates, the SDK will be ~3 months old by the time it's updated (best case). There's no paid app support in the Jolla store (still) and complete silence on the issue, and there are still major strictures imposed on developers wanting apps in the Jolla store.

Jolla seem to be very behind with Sailfish generally, and their 'monthly' updates have flown out of the window, with it now being 10 weeks since the last update.

Is this an ecosystem and situation you'd be diverting resources to, in order to build a native app?

Also, in before the 'partnership' with Rovio results in Angry Birds Android app in the Jolla store, whenever they finally add paid apps.

10 weeks? No. There wasn't supposed to be an update for a few weeks because they were on Summer Holiday. So you have to count those few weeks out.

vistaus 2014-09-30 20:45

Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1441241)
Well you said "like Qualcomm" and Qualcomm's only two serious competitors are Mediatek and Samsung.

No. TI OMAP is also a serious competitor. Mediatek has become more popular taking over some of TI's marketshare, but TI OMAP is still very much used as well.

bockersjv 2014-09-30 20:46

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1441116)
So it seems that Younited client for Jolla will be an android app. That's rather disappointing

Omg that is terrible. All this time stringing us along, that is a complete joke.

On the plus side NFC payment now works apparently ;)

zlatko 2014-09-30 20:48

Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
@vistaus
TI OMAP pulled out of consumer electronics. So is competitor no more.

vistaus 2014-09-30 20:51

Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
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Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1441247)
@vistaus
TI OMAP pulled out of consumer electronics. So is competitor no more.

Then what is Motorola using in their brand new Moto 360 smart watch? Oh wait, TI OMAP!

Morpog 2014-09-30 20:54

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Yeah, a 3 year old SOC.....

vistaus 2014-09-30 20:55

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Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1441249)
Yeah, a 3 year old SOC.....

Doesn't matter if it's old. If they had pulled out, then they wouldn't have sold Motorola any SoC at all.

bluefoot 2014-09-30 20:58

Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
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Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1441244)
10 weeks? No. There wasn't supposed to be an update for a few weeks because they were on Summer Holiday. So you have to count those few weeks out.

No. TI OMAP is also a serious competitor. Mediatek has become more popular taking over some of TI's marketshare, but TI OMAP is still very much used as well.

It's 10 weeks however you look at it. The rest of the world doesn't stop because some staff take 2 weeks summer holidays.

Wrong. You're just making stuff up now. TI OMAP ceased to exist 2 years ago and only exists in legacy mobile / tablet products. They've withdrawn from the market completely. AFAIK their embedded systems products aren't called OMAP anymore.


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