Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

options manager -fantastic-the browser speed is good -try not to weigh the basics down with useless widgies---keep it simple --

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Umm... The Minimalistic theme strikes again. Replace this rule in /home/user/.tear/userstyles.css to override the current setting of "none" (on every site that has it, not only ITT):
with this:

This will take care of the non-resizing sites...

One thing I can't understand - if this is a mobile oriented theme, what is this setting doing on the body tag...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Thanks a lot Bundyo, will try this right away... I suspected something like that, but I'm not well versed in CSS.

Ah, an ages-old debate. I've written it so many times here that I got tired and gave up (and others too). It does seem difficult to design web sites to be mobile-device-friendly, and still retain pleasing eye-candy for desktop browsers. Come to think of it, maemo.org itself is not especially tablet-friendly either...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

And the new design wasn't yet, the last I saw it. It will probably get better though. ITT on the other hand won't. I just hope the new talk.maemo.org is usable. And hopefully has a black theme, since all themes I'm using are black/dark (excluding the tablet one, which is plain Echo).

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Hi,

sorry, but I need a few more days for the bookmark manager. When I tried to implement drag&drop I didn't like my code anymore. I'll have to change a few things to make the code more flexible and extensible so it'll be simple to change something or to include the manager into your own software.

Since there are python bindings for webkit available I had the idea to implement something like a preview popup for your bookmarks but I'll have to check if this is possible/usable ...

So, please be patient ;)

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I dont want to confuse the flow of this thread as I haven't had much time to follow itt lately, but tso pointed out you added dbus support so i figured i would rerun some tests to see if it could be integrated into the -default- nokia bookmark plugin.... and the short answer seems to be 'no'.

Unfortunately, i think the bookmark plugin is hardcoded to call com.nokia.osso_browser service (instead of new com.nokia.tear service), so you would still need to write a new plugin to replace libtn_bookmark_plugin.so. Or bundyo 'could' hack his code to open an osso context called com.nokia.osso_browser instead of his own, and then reroute the /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.nokia.osso_browser.service file to his /usr/bin/tear (making sure to catch the dbus method invoked by the plugin) but that is pretty ugly and is not something that you should hijaak by default in a postinst script so it would still require user hacking.

I looked for the source code to the libtn_bookmark_plugin.so bookmark plugin but i could not find it. So the best bet would be to see if someone like fiferboy (personalmenu) released sample code and build a new plugin which could use either the mozilla bookmarks or (even better) bongo's bookmark plugin database... so that the navigator plugin bookmarks collection matches the internal browser plugin's bookmark collection. And that new plugin could invoke the com.nokia.tear service via dbus to preserve single instancing or just use command line to open multiple windows.

If someone knows something different from what i said, feel free to correct me as i'm just a hacking my way to learning these dbus rules/mechanisms.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

You can already use personal menu/launcher with tear. for a command just type: tear "url of bookmark" (without quotations)

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I'm far away from the thought of hijacking the com.nokia.osso_browser service. It may have undesirable effects on someone's tablet... :(

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I agree... just wanted to illustrate how ugly the solution to hack the default plugin appears to be.

And yep you could use personal menu for a few bookmarks but that could get crowded if you added alot.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

the default bookmark menu im not to worried about, but what about say mauku or oss_rss_feed_reader? these are both apps that brings up a browser window from time to time.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Have you seen my tear tasknav plugin? :cool:

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Sorry but ... where is the tasknav plugin? (For that matter, I confess I can't find the bookmarks plugin, either.)

EDIT: Aha! Bookmarks plugin appears to be in post #19 of this thread, will try shortly. Would be nice if the first post could identify where these are, or if they were in the garage.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Ahh ok i found your posts. Yes sounds like you're coding the best solution... to the problem... which tso doesnt care about so much :confused: But I look forward to trying that out... that would be very useful for true replacement of osso browser.

Tso : dunno about the feed reader and mauku... I would have thought the best way to handle launching files would be some kind of mime open where you just launch with a mime type and not a specific service... but all nokia apps seem to call out to their specific service names.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

thing is, i never mentioned the bookmark plugin specifically, i asked about urls, specifically http(s), as i thought that third party apps would be tossing any url they wanted opened to a generic protocol handler or something.

i tried adding http to dbus-switchboard but got nowhere, and therefor made the question of the thread. i also already knew about the plugin in this thread.

i never really tried to correct the bookmark plugin focus tho, as i hoped it would lead to something. looks like i was wrong.

so hey, sorry if i ended up leading everyone on a wild goose chase or something...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

@pipeline & GeraldKo: Latest version of TrueJournals' task navigator plugin is in extras-devel, not that in post #19. :)

I updated the first post with screns and info about the plugin and Bongo's bookmark manager.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Thanks Bundyo....

tso : trust me, with maemo most things i try fail... then i find the 5% solutions that work and go with that... so this run-around is par for the course :) just trying to spare others from finding the same issues. You mentioned valid use cases... not goose chases.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

What about the cookies bug (cookies generated by local javascript: example http://tools.velp.info/scicalc.html does not save numbers in cookies when an operation is performed) ?
Local cookies are not supported by the Webkit engine.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I think Ive come across another minor bug...i dont think Ive seen it mentioned before in the thread...but on the N810, the fullscreen button only seems to work when the keyboard is open. Also, I have a question about the bookmark manager...Ive used it to organize them as I want...they show up in the bookmark plugin correctly, but in the lower right when I bring the menu up they are not in the order I set them. Is there any way to make them in the same order in both places?

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Been searching all afternoon but could not find the tasknav plugins in the extra dev repos, my repos are active all the time though.

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Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I was looking on my device( ignorance) and the link is very helpful since not all of us are familiar with that part of the repos, thanks

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

New libwebkit with hns' fixes to hildon-input-mode is here.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

(and in my repo, of course)

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I'm just fixing some remaining problems, so unfortunately you'll have to rebuild soon :)

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

No problem, you may have too :D

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

My site was down for a few minutes. The stupid CPanel broke the .htaccess file. Sorry about that. Fixed. Debs are downloads now too.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Qole, the update for libwebkit isnt showing up from your repository.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

The update fixed two of my minor issues, the Fn and shift keys no longer have to be held down..woo hoo...makes text entry so much easier! Hoping to be able to use the d-pad to move to next entry box when entering a username and password soon! Only a few issues left for me.

1. Still cant log into usa today.com...brings up the box but doesnt log me in.

2. Also on usa today .com when viewing comments wont set view oldest first and remember it.

3. Doesnt keep password in entry box on webpages...remembers username but not password.

Will any of the issues that cause these be fixed soon?

Keep up the good work!!!!

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I just checked, it is showing up on my Application Manager as an update...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

i refreshed it twice and there wasnt any issues with your repo and it still didnt show up...too late now..installed it from the .deb But thanks for checking though. :)

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Is this superseded by the tear-bookmarks deb? Does the installed deb somehow allow you to edit and delete bookmarks? What's the secret?:) Are 9 bookmarks the maximum?

TIA

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

What bongo was referring to was the tear-bookmarks deb. That contains (currently) only the bookmarks plugin. The prototype bookmark manager he referenced can be found (with instructions) in this post.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Bongo, when the bookmarks are organized in your manager, why do theyy show up in the TN plugin correctly, but not the lower right-hand menu?

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

te bookmark manager have overtaken tear in ters of feature support. the focus have beep on getting other stuff working first...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

New libwebkit (41137-1) with last hns' fixes to hildon-input-mode is here. It also includes some upstream updates and most importantly this build works on 770 with OS2008HE. Also reuploaded Tear 0.3-6 which works on 770. libidn11 and libpcre3 from the Diablo repos also work on 770. Please report if there are any speed slowdowns on n8x0.

Tear on 770 works almost as fast as on n8x0.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I just updated via your link and the uploaded tear on first page, immediatly afterwards i had a notification of a new tear update and it was difficult to determine which one was new since they carry the same version, would be nice either change the numbers or i can remove the repos for later use i like to keep it though.

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

is there anyway to manage bookmarks --also how do you change the colour of the text to black-hard to read the light blue---keep up the good work on one of the worthwhile apps around

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

Wowowow... now *that* is a feat ! Thanks for the old beast, will definitely give it a try tonight...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

im tempted to claim that the graphics rendering speed have slowed down lately...

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 

I assume Tear only works on the 770 if the 770 is running OS2008HE?