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Thank you. It is great that you are posting here. Thank you!!! :)

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I am more concerned that a lot of you are better with English than I am and it is my native language :(

The date is fine for me. Gives me time to see how much better it will be, or if something bad (to me) is discovered, gives me time to cancel :)

Okay, who am I kidding- I want it now :o

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Well, maybe the new delay is if you preorder the device now. For preorders made earlier this month and in September the date is still end of October. Who knows.

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I don't want to pay for and depend on a device - and the support of the company selling it - whose purchasers are sh1t on even before delivery.

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It's a shame there's a delay, but at the same time hopes are a terrible thing to damage.

Nokia seem to have done a good job firing up peoples' imaginations with the launch period, all the way through to the summit. Perhaps too good ;)

So many people see so many ways they can add something beneficial to their lives with this device, they are brimming with enthusiasm, then their dreams are kicked in the teeth. I can understand how some may find that emotionally detrimental - and once Nokia loses their emotional investment, they begin to risk losing mind-share and ultimately business.

That said, shooting for an October release and slipping to November is hardly a showstopper - BFD ;) Unfortunately, the party started at the beginning of September, and some people have a problem maintaining a 3 month hardon.

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Does your Momma know you turned out to be this big a Troll!

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Thanks for registering to post that! Bye now!

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:D:D:D

Very good, my friend.

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Oh, bloody hell. To all the people whining about it not being released, I'll just repost what I posted over at HoFo.

"Look at it this way. With any major project (especially hardware/software) there will always be issues/defects. ALWAYS. Things aren't shipped when they are "bug free" - they are shipped when there is reasonable confidence that the major issues have been identified and fixed or deemed low impact. I'd rather a company be honest and delay something a little rather than chuck it out the door with what may possibly be serious defects.

What would happen to the device's reputation and future sales if they prematurely sent it out the door knowing there is a possibility of something going horribly wrong? Look at the guest account issue with the latest version of OS X, for instance. Some more exposure to beta testers may have very well exposed that issue, who knows; yet obviously the decision was made to release it. It is also quite likely that some people in Apple's release management team were aware of it and decided that it is not that likely end users would follow that scenario."

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I think r0eladn is a good example of somebody losing their emotional investment due to disappointment.

Now, you can choose to understand his perspective or you can ridicule him, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that this behavior is symptomatic (rightly or not) of the sequence of events that Nokia have played a significant part in determining.

A slight tweak in Nokia's tactics may have averted such a toxic atmosphere.

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I am curious as to what you mean. Could you elaborate?

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I do not remember first of all there being a firm release date. Secondly, I would bet that the shitstorm that would erupt if something critical went out the door versus to the hurt feelings due to the delay as Gojiira crushing Tokyo compared to the GEICO gecko shouting over a megaphone in the middle of Akihabara that all gaijin are wankers.

:D

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Well said rOeladn... I hate people who mock another person all because someone canceled an order for a device that Nokia can't give accurate information on.

So what if it was the guy's first post, he's probably been reading this entire thread and the one before it and because he's just now posting to convey his action's in canceling his order because Nokia fails at deliver a definitive delivery date people decide to a obnoxious *******... Just because the guy has one post doesn't make him deserve that treatment, Maemo is an open forum about an open OS, so seriously grow up.

Not every person is going to just sit around and wait while the N900 keeps getting pushed back, and back, and back. People will ultimately cancel, but mocking them or being condescending because they canceled just shows that their maturity has a limit.

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Thanks Jed.

Though i'd rather see myself as a victim of unbalance in emotion/rationale fixing it with an aggression outlet on the maemo boards.

i am 90% rational and 10% emotions. my rational says me to get this phone and my emotions are only following my dlck. since the biggest hole in the device is for the 3.5mm jack plug that aint gonna work for me so i don't care about any of this. just need my phucking fone.

but nonetheless what you say is very true my friend. and i don't know who started this put your emotions about your n900 in a maemo thread anyway. there is so much rational on the maemo boards that if u don't know linux you might only be able to use your emotions when you are new here and don't know anything on the technical side of maemo(.org).

and tactics my @ss. westwood with RA2 or rockstar with GTA didn't even know what tactics was and thats perfectly phucking phine.

we need a grouptherapist in this thread thats what i say. and we need him now before we all become phone-junkies that get off by calling every phone supplier in the country just so we can get a little hope from a 17 year old college boy or 40 year old supermarket promoted to callcentre mom who makes a mistake in her thinking process on whether to say the words it will be here soon or oh-yeah-that-is-right-let's-tell-the-truth-for-a-change-because-my-manager-likes-that-better-and-what-the-customers-like-actually-noone-cares-about.


oh and what spinnukur says is also very true indeed. i think it would be good for a lot of the n00bs to get a nice welcome here and might invest some time in the tech aspect of this maemo stuff. serious business here so if there is people to stay guess it should be good.

i really should be going this is more offtopic than offtopic. i think. i dont know. damn it to pieces

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I am not complaining. I want the phone to be released when it is ready.

However when I pre-ordered in September I chatted with a NokiaUSA representative who said that it would be shipped by the end of September. Then in October I had the same chat with two more NokiaUSA reps saying it would be shipped by the end of October. Nokia has not managed my expectations well.

On the positive side the delay will give me time to consider Droid and other Android options that will be able to work on the 3G networks in my area as they are released.

If it were available and supported AT&T 3G frequencies the N900 would without question be the best phone for me as a Linux developer / DBA. I somewhat debate whether I would be better off with Android with 3G or Maemo without.

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The fact that we were kept in the dark is the issue, company aint honest, they stuck to end october all the way till nw even though we have repeatedly asked AND they insisted everything was on track.

So, it is disappointing and I would understand if people turn away because this is NOT good customer service. In addition, the service reps at nokiausa keep throwing out dates, beginning oct, mid, end and now nov.

The reps should shut it until they know for sure, and company give a firm date they can actually stick to.

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I wouldn't dare suggest I'm competent to advise Nokia on such things.

I would have considered adopting a more candid approach to communicating with the core 'community' - in this case, the maemo.org community. However, there is a business conflict here - too much negative information flying around can harm future prospects especially in the stock market, but sufficient, well tailored information can also help to build trust (even though there's a delay, confidence & trust is improved by your ability to solve the problem).

It seems that Nokia have completely avoided tackling this dilemma, opting for a "they can't hang us words we never said" approach - which leaves the very people they depend on (paying customers) to have their imaginations run wild and emotions run high and negativity to poison the intertubes ;)

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When NokiaUSA, both via phone, live chat and email say end of Sept, then first of Oct, then mid Oct, then end of Oct, now Nov, then finally with Peter saying sometime during Nov, I believe any intelligent person will realize that's an official date hence being from the official company who designed and manufactured the device, even more so since the people telling you this actually work for Nokia ( doesn't mean they know what they are talking about, but that's not the point...they work for Nokia, thus if they don't know the date they shouldn't be giving out theoretical dates on maybe when it'll be released. ).

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I find myself reflecting that if "WE Are Maemo", Maemo has a bit of a problem. ;)

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Love the comments about "growing up" and "maturity". :D

On the topic of maturity, I'm surprised that this thread has made it to almost 550 posts without any lego bestiality pics. Things are looking up!

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Exactly there were too many mid this or end that, which passed, they should have kept quiet or been instructed to give a proper time frame.

The site STILL says october, nothing to tell the people not reading this that its delayed.

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I don't think there was ever a firm date, simply "during October". Now it's "during November", a one month shift.....BFD ;)

But that isn't the point.

Perceptions and expectations are everything. Mishandling them is not advisable.

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Mobile Phones Direct claim to have it CONFIRMED as arriving BEFORE 16th Nov to them. They also said they would get it first in the UK due to being affiliated with Nokia.

Previous to that it was all "we expect by" so hopefully that does mean this is confirmed.

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Okay that's a different thread in a different mind state... :p:p:p:p

We were all going a little insane, and I'm sure if I did a little research I could find some insane from you also.

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I find myself reflecting that all those "we are blah" slogans are utter bollocks ;)

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I see your point. I think it would behoove Nokia to give some sort of small compensation to those who ordered their devices early on (I don't know what date would be appropriate) with the expectation that it would be released sooner than it has. I don't know, an extra battery maybe? :D

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it is completely logic that such a device is not shipping at the first set date.

if you go back in time the scheduled release was somewhere thought to be august or even july.

and if some people here actually had anticipated something before in their lifes they'd really badly wanted to see released very soon they wouldve known this delay is normal.

the more complex something is the longer the delay is between announcement etc.

f.e. an extreme thing, the freedom ship was a project from the 90's or maybe earlier. it has been delayed a million times and they havnt started building anything on it either. that is like the most extreme possible example to give here but it sure makes a point.
the positive thing about this is that you can come to the realisation that this is a much more complex device than any other phone on the market right now. which is good. if you think about it.

maybe i am wrong but i say at least 50% of the people here talking about it hyping it etc won't even use it 60% to its max capability's.

i thought this whole thread was a joke and i had some irritating people surrounding me when i got myself 'commited' to this thread because they jammed my brains all the time so i had to find a way to scr3w around a little. but now that's over and i actually don't know what i'm doing here still.

nobody cares about this bullcr4p anyway probably. and i hate teaching so i hope nobody learns anything from this but who cares anyway. let's jerk 0ff and play flash games 6 hrs a day already.

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Yeah they called my Johnson. My Johnson told then Nov 16. So there ya go. Who would believe any date at this point? Even from my Johnson!

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Should they give me something for selling my current smartphone to make sure I had enough money mid-October?

I really do not see how that could work as there would always be someone left saying "hey, I did xxxx on the condition I would get the phone on yyyy".

Oh I dunno, maybe because someone from marketing actually came on the forum this time and confirmed it. Sure they didn't say 16th, but I think they are just playing it safe after all the outrage.

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i guess u could say that :cool:

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someone call shopblt and see if they received the n900s. The shipment was supposed to arrive 10-22

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My mum has said that i'm not allowed to play in this thread anymore until some of you guys are more growed up.

posted by Nicky Age 36 (and a half)

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HAHA!:)

Great action from mommy!

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If what you mean is that this thread is in need of some moderation, I agree.

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nope not yet just called.

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Haha, I would just like to say I called it! (first or second week of November). And true, it is in fine print, but my point was more as to how Newegg generally does things. As we all know often companies just have lines in there for lawyer reasons and to protect themselves. And yes Amazon is quite larger than Newegg, but Newegg is still big enough to get priority shipments over say other 3rd parties.

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newegg didnt post their shipping dates till last week and they have not changed dates (nov 14th) so it seems they are the only ones to trust atm :rolleyes:

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TRUST NO ONE. Gives me more time to debate how the hell I'm going to get this phone. Why does the world hate Canada? We're so nice to all of you.

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I'm actually on the opposite side of things. I'm GLAD the N900 has been delayed. I was iffy on it anyway. Only preordered it on an impulse because I got a sweet deal when the promo codes were working.

This delay gives me more time to think it through. My N95 is still going ok but I want an upgrade. The Droid might turn out to be a better deal. Also, any rumour from HTC about an impending 1GHz android device will make me cancel my preorder faster than you can say maemo.


*runs and hides behind couch after blasphemy*

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A 1ghz turd is still a turd.

:p