Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Not much traffic today, maybe when we open our phones tomorrow we see the update flashing in top of the screen and we have new Fw. heheh

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

Ive read through this whole post and had been following it before my n900 arrived. I was surprised to find that LEAP authentication didnt work when it arrived which was my first hope to get exchange working. Since that is absent my only hope is OWA on MfE. I understand that symbian and maemo are much different but I figured support for using MfE with the OWA address would work. Is this possible or are there any plans to support this? My company is apparently too paranoid and wants to keep me out...:(

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

OWA and MfE are entirely different systems - they may well be running on the same server though. The other requirements are Exchange 2007 SP1 or above, and non-provisionable devices enabled (Exchange 2003 support should be in the next firmware release).

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

...yep - the "internal" guys (not only in this thread) seem to be more busy then the last weeks. Looks like the "before Xmas" firmware is on it's way.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

There is any hope what Maemo 6 will work with exchange 2003? When can we get next release of Maemo?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Please read first, the answer to your question is in the very first post of this thread:


"sw. update" does not mean the next version of Maemo, but the next firmware update for Maemo 5, which should be released in the coming weeks, hopefully before christmas, but certainly not too long after that.

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

So then how is it that I can setup MfE on S60 with an OWA address and get calendar and mail to sync but I can't on MfE for Maemo? Sorry I guess I wasn't exactly clear in my previous post that I was relating it to my experience with S60.

In MfE for S60 it allows me to put the OWA address, where on Maemo it won't let me continue because it claims that address is not correct, doesn't even let me attempt. I understand they are different builds but I thought they were based off the same core functionalities.

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

that info didn't really come through in your previous post...

that's not an MfE issue in my opinion, rather a networking issue. do you use a fully qualified domain name as address, or just the "internal" name of the server?
are you able to browse to that address in the N900's browser?

the OWA server has to be accessible from outside your local network (read: from the internet) if you plan on updating the N900 via 3G or similar.

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

Yea sorry about that, responded from the N900. Still getting accustomed to completing thoughts on it ;)

As far as my OWA address it's accessible externally. URL is like https://webmail.companyname.com/exchange

If I enter that in my browser I can get my e-mail. If I enter that for my server address on S60 I get my e-mail pushed to me regardless of connection type. Which is what I'm trying to achieve here with Maemo. Until LEAP encryption comes to the N900 and my company switches to 2007 (probably 2012 at this point) I'm out of luck completely. I've requested for IMAP over Exchange support but I'm not holding my breath...

I also used this OWA address on Blackberrys in the past and has worked (I understand a very different protocol, but just for reference).

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

I've no idea why that address works with MfE on S60 - presumably it's stripping out the server name internally. The address you'll need to use with the N900 is just webmail.companyname.com, and make sure that you have SSL enabled in the configuration.

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

Interesting. Well sure enough it won't go due to the 2003 compatibility issue. Thanks for taking the time to walk me through it though, I appreciate it. I may play around with the certificates later but it's probably best just to wait for the upgrades.

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 

I'm in the same boat at the moment :( - the new firmware update shouldn't be long much longer though.

Re: Importing self-signed certificates bug
 

Hi all,

Could somebody please provide me with a manual solution for the symbolic linking mentioned by Vitaly?

The instruction in an earlier post by one of the guys that helped find this bug is not working for me. This is probably from a severe lack of Linux/Unix experience on my side.

A step-by-step would be a big help!
:)

Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Jan-Paul

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

I have noticed pictures from N900 address book is not synced back to exchange. Is there a way to make that work?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

My MfE properly syncs contact pictures back to my exchange account.
maybe your exchange server doesn't permit that?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Someone has suggested to come around this issue by:
I found out that MfE uses certificates from /home/user/.activesync/certs which
has symlinks from /etc/certs/common-ca/. But the user imported sertificates go
to /home/user/.maemosec-certs/ssl-ca and these are not symlinked to the
activesync folder. After manually doing the symlink in xterm, I got the MfE
working.

Can you confirm that?

Br.
Sam

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Hi Sam, welcome to the Forum!

vitaly already confirmed the bug in a post in this very thread ;)

the bugfix is part of the upcoming software update.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Hi.
Thanks for replying. I wonder. Why mfe 2007 works on N900 for some but it doesn't for some others. What is the reasons. Is that because of cerf. or something else?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

There's a few reasons found so far:

• Certificate problem
• Missing Exchange patches/service packs
• Exchange server not set to allow non-provisional devices

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Thanks.
Can you be more specific on those well known reasons please?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

The reason is that there are certain configuration settings server-side which have to be set correctly for MfE Maemo to work.
Especially the "provisioning" feature is a hindrance for many. This feature is intended to provide higher security by making sure the mobile device adheres to certain standards. The ability to completely wipe a mobile device remotely is an example of a requirement for "full" provisioning.

This is currently not possible with Maemo, because as a Linux OS, it's open and customizable, and it would require too many changes on the OS side for MfE to be able to support provisioning.
This will change in the next iteration of Maemo ("Harmattan" / Maemo 6), because it will have a dedicated DRM mode which allows the developers to implement the needed features for provisioning.
On the other hand this will make Maemo less open, which has been the topic of a heated discussion, but it will (most likely, nothing is certain at this point) satisfy the requirements for provisioning.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Vitaly, greetings. My 3 kopeiks here (absolutely IMHO):

very annoying:
1. No header is added to forwarded emails.

annoying:
1. Reminder popups for calendar entry when cancellation notification for this meeting has been received.
2. No "lookup in global address book" feature.

as a side note:
1. Inability to sync N900 if server is setup not to allow non-provisionable devices will be a showstopper for major businesses. If Nokia wants to position Maemo version of MfE for corporate customers, MfE should be programmed to support environments with "allow non-provisionable devices" feature enabled. Just because its easier for most mid to large businesses to pick solutions that do not require re-design of their security settings.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

I dont think its a provisioning issue. I use non-provisional devices with no issues whatsoever on our Exchange 2007 server. My NOKIA E51 is a non-provisional device and works like a charm, but NOKIA N900 can not sync. The progress bar starts and never finishes without giving me a single error. iphone works, nokia E51 works, nokia E71 works with my server but NOT, I reapeat NOT, Nokia N900, and there are absolutely NOOOOOOOO excuses for that. Email is so essential, and NOKIA N900 fails in that

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Have you tried disabling provisioning requirement for your account?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

I try to find out how well the N900 works with our Exchange 2007 Server.
Windows Phones interact with Exchange server this way:

When you reply to an e-mail the phone just sends what you have written. The server receives this (short) answer text and compiles a full email including the original text, attachments etc. and sends it outside. This means:
If e.g. a hugh HTML email arrives, lets say with 1MB embedded pictures etc., the phone doesn't need to download the e-mail in full. Maybe just the first two sentences are enough for you to know what is the topic and you can forward it to an college. Even if the attachments are 30mb the e-mail is forwarded with in seconds while you are online with a slow mobile connection.

Most annoying of the iPhone is the fact, that e-mails are replied from the device (most people expect it this way, I know). But when it comes to HTML it results in a ugly reply with missplaced pictures and random fonts and sizes etc.

Sometimes I use a Palm Treo 750 to forward bigger attachments instead of my desktop computer, even if I am sitting in front of it. Everything stays 1:1, the speed of sending is like sending a SMS, no matter how big the body and attachments are.

My Question:

As far as I know "Mail for Exchange" is much more clever than this and interacts the Ex2k7 similar to ActiveSync on WM devices. So: what's the deal with the N900?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

OK. Now I can confirm this bug and confirm that it is fixed in the sw. update. So, wait for the sw. update.

Meanwhile the workarounds:

1) Use "Send immediately"
2) Send the mails manually pressing the "Send & Receive" button from mail client.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Sounds as an idea for Maemo 6 for me. Will forward it to our responsible guys.

Re: Works with Exchange 2003?
 

Check the very first message of this thread, pls: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=393019&postcount=1

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

This is pure marketing question. Can not answer it here as it is out of my competence. Regarding N900 working with Exchange 2003, the answer is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...&highlight=MfE Can not tell more, sorry.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

This is different issue from the issue described in the post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...945&post426945 And it was confirmed here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35136

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

It is provisional device.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

This is called "smart reply". And the same method exists for forwarding mails, it is called "smart forwarding".

Normal reply (everything is transmitted to the server) and smart forwarding.

Let me explain the rationale behind. Maemo mail client supports quoting (you put your answers inline). And if smart reply is in use you can only support top posting (no inline comments). So, it has been decided to drop smart reply support and leave the Maemo mail client unmodified.

But when you forward the mail, smart forwarding is used.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Could you explain this in a little bit more details?

Yep. But if the meeting was not removed from your calendar then... Anyway, got the point.

Yep. Heard this many times.


Yep. Discussed a lot here. Thank you for the feedback you have given.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

To me that's a _feature_, and as it should be.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Is this totally a no-go for maemo5?

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Not sure. Especially if the code of as-daemon would be open-sourced.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

this "feature" gets very annoying when you forward someone initial email and that someone has no idea where and when initail email came from.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

if you forward an email using most other devices and\or software, recipient of that forwarded email will get something like:

"
From: XXXX
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:21 PM
To: XXXX
Subject: YYY
"
followed by forwarded message text.

In current MfE for N900 implementation, recipients of forwarded email get only message body without header I've quoted above.

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

Thank you for the detailed explanation. E-Mail client behavior, not MfE specific in fact. Will inform relevant guys ( including myself. ha-ha :) )

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

hello

i just bought an N900 and wanted to throw away my iphone. i already have an n97 mini which i use for business in Finland and so wanted this phone...

i (naturally) assumed that email would be as straightforward as it was for the N97...i clicked on the mail for exhange set-up screen and keyed in the necessary information.

And nothing....

a weeks worth of fruitless effort with my companies helpdesk and then a call to Nokia whi are saying that MfE doesnt quite work...

i am not a techical guy, but surely a fix must exist for this. either that or i hae just wasted over £400...:confused: