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Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877148)

apt (and all programs on top of apt like HAM and fapman) works like this: referenced by a sources.list it grabs some informational catalogues form specified repositories and builds some kind of lokal database out of them. This lokal database you can use as long as you want to but it is only as actual as your last update. Therefore it is usable for offline searching in the database but you will not see newer updates until you re-download the catalogues again (e.g. run the update).
Upgrading instead means bringing an installed application to a newer version. This requires in first place to have an updated database of available applications (e.g. having run the update). Of course, for updating as well as upgrading you need a connection to the internet.

why not include an equivalent of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in the app?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 877153)

why not include an equivalent of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in the app?

What do you mean? You already have update and upgrade available.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877150)

After erasing the cache directory you updated the catalogues and after reinstalling you verified there are repos activated?

Yes, I did all of these

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877150)

Did you have a look at fapamns log (in the menu)?

Catalogues update works as expected and the log seems correct. Fapman hangs at "creating package view" whenever I ask to install, remove or upgrade packages.

Is it possible that dates aren't fetched and the program stalls for this reason?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 877239)

Is it possible that dates aren't fetched and the program stalls for this reason?

You might try that out and deactivate date-fetching.
You can also do an "ls -l" on the cache directory and see wether the files have a sensible size (some hundred kB, might also be some MB in size). If files are too small there went sthg wrong with downloading or merging the catalogues.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Hi I get below error for anything I try to install..."Some of your packages have unmet dependencies which could not be fixed. See log for details"

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

And did you see the log for details? Would you mind sharing these details with us so we could probably help you?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877160)

What do you mean? You already have update and upgrade available.

I believe the suggestion was to include a couple of CLI accessible scripts in the package, such as those you linked earlier. :)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877725)

And did you see the log for details? Would you mind sharing these details with us so we could probably help you?

here is what the log says

--- 2010-11-22 22:45:13 ---
/usr/bin/apt-get -qsy --allow-unauthenticated -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts="" --auto-remove install cutetube
--- 2010-11-22 22:45:16 ---
Output from last process:
---
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
purple-extra-protocols: Depends: libpurple0 (>= 2.7.5-2nix1) but 2.7.3-0nix2 is to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by must4get (Post 880795)

here is what the log says

It's quite obvious, isn't it? You're trying to install something that depends on a library that isn't available in the needed version. You have two possibilities:

a) do not install the package that depends on that library (i.e.: deselect purple-extra-protocols from getting installed)
b) find out where to get that library in a satisfying version from and add the adequate repository or install manually before trying to install purple-extra-protocols.

That's it. No magic, just reading and thinking.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I have autorotation disabled. Main view doesn't rotate alright but the package view still autorotates.

And thanks for effort, awesome application :)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 880910)

It's quite obvious, isn't it? You're trying to install something that depends on a library that isn't available in the needed version. You have two possibilities:

a) do not install the package that depends on that library (i.e.: deselect purple-extra-protocols from getting installed)
b) find out where to get that library in a satisfying version from and add the adequate repository or install manually before trying to install purple-extra-protocols.

That's it. No magic, just reading and thinking.

Thanks for reading and thinking my friend but you are not explaining.. my problem is whatever i try to install or update with fapman is throwing same error. the same apps are fine with built in app manager. what i understood by reading and thinking is, the error is not related to what i am installing.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

One suggestion I have for this epic app:

An option to have small or large buttons (The ones at the bottom: Category, Sort, OK,..... etc)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by must4get (Post 881782)

... my problem is whatever i try to install or update with fapman is throwing same error. the same apps are fine with built in app manager.

To clarify, both HAM and fapman have the same repos enabled? That error suggests that extras-devel and -testing are not enabled. Why HAM and fapman behave differently is a puzzle, as HAM should have the same dependency issue or have resolved them. At least "apt-get -f install" should have done so.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by must4get (Post 881782)

OK, one more explanation: the package management is kind of "intelligent", somehow, sometimes. It is on one hand able to store selections you have made (even if I don't think this happens with fapman) and on the other hand always checking all available updates and dependencies when being run. Therefore it's not important which package you want to install because apt scans all dependencies and decides to install this package which then always leads to an unsatisfied dependency.
HAM and fapman do have different behaviour even if same repos are enabled. E.g. HAM sometimes tries to reinstall already installed packages with same version (pretending it's an update) and I just don't know why.
Nevertheless: have a look at your installed or selected apps and find out why the mentioned package is to be installed (in fapman you can enable display of all packages when selecting "Install applications" and clicking on 'C'). Deselect the mentioned package and you should no longer be bothered with this message.
Or get the needed package in a satisfying version and go on.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

0.6.8 should fix two bugs reported in the bugtracker

* fix: #6590 (network autoconnect)
* fix: #6581 ("disable autorotation" is ignored most of the time)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 877239)

You could try running from the command line (as root) with -d parameter to get some debug output

Code:

run-standalone.sh fapman -d

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

FAP does not working for me anymore. Everytime I try to install, uninstall or update, it keeps on give me an error.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

And nothing relevant in the log or obtained as hqh outlines immediately above?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

This is what it says when I try to install something.

--- 2010-11-22 05:21:53 ---
Start reading package lists
--- 2010-11-22 05:21:54 ---
Finished reading package lists
--- 2010-11-22 05:21:54 ---
Start fetching package dates
--- 2010-11-22 05:21:55 ---
need to fetch date for 0 packages
--- 2010-11-22 05:21:55 ---
sent 0 requests, received 0 replies with 0 errors
--- 2010-11-22 05:21:55 ---
Finished fetching package dates
--- 2010-11-22 05:22:23 ---
/usr/bin/apt-get -q update -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=""
Get:1 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release.gpg [489B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Translation-en_US
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Translation-en_US
Get:2 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg [198B]
Ign http://www.joikushop.com Release.gpg
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_US
Ign http://www.joikushop.com Translation-en_US
Get:3 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release.gpg [489B]
Get:4 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg [198B]
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_US
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Translation-en_US
Get:5 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg [198B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_US
Get:6 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release.gpg [489B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Translation-en_US
Get:7 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release [507B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Translation-en_US
Get:8 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release [507B]
Get:9 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release [507B]
Get:10 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release [7956B]
Get:11 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages [69.2kB]
Ign http://www.joikushop.com Release
Get:12 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release [7958B]
Get:13 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release [7960B]
Get:14 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages [2187kB]
Get:15 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages [440kB]
Get:16 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages [581kB]
Get:17 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages [61.2kB]
Get:18 http://www.joikushop.com Packages [393B]
Get:19 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages [6205kB]
Get:20 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages [221kB]
Get:21 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages [2884kB]
Get:22 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages [91.1kB]
Fetched 12.8MB in 37s (337kB/s)
Reading package lists...
W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got )
W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got )
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
--- 2010-11-22 05:23:52 ---
Start reading package lists
--- 2010-11-22 05:24:01 ---
Finished reading package lists
--- 2010-11-22 05:24:01 ---
Start fetching package dates
--- 2010-11-22 05:24:01 ---
need to fetch date for 140 packages
--- 2010-11-22 05:24:28 ---
sent 140 requests, received 140 replies with 0 errors
--- 2010-11-22 05:24:28 ---
Finished fetching package dates
--- 2010-11-22 05:26:25 ---
/usr/bin/apt-get -qsy --allow-unauthenticated -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts="" --auto-remove install barrage
--- 2010-11-22 05:26:35 ---
Output from last process:
---
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libtpsession libqtm-serviceframework libqt4-declarative
nokiamaps-navigation-provider-settings-002 libqtm-multimedia
n900-fmrx-enabler libqtm-publishsubscribe libconninet0 libqtm-messaging
qtm-modest-plugin libqtm-location dsme-thermalobject-surface libqtm-versit
libgq-gconf0 libconnsettings0 libqtm-bearer libqt4-translations
libtelepathy-qt4-0 libqt4-script libqtm-sensors libqtm-contacts
libqtm-systeminfo
Hmm, seems like the AutoRemover destroyed something which really
shouldn't happen. Please file a bug report against apt.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qtm-maemo-metapackage: Depends: libqtm-bearer (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-contacts (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-location (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-messaging (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-multimedia (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-publishsubscribe (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-sensors (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-serviceframework (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-systeminfo (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-versit (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Internal Error, AutoRemover broke stuff

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Ok, now I realise we have written about this before. You tried the stuff mentioned at the end of this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65996?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Hi once again.

I didn't know there were more replies in my original thread. Sorry, I didn't take a look. It seems like disabling "auto remove" have fixed my problem. Thank you very much!

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Great news! Make sure that your forum settings subscribe you to a thread to which you post and you will get an email notification of replies..

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I ran into a problem when uninstalling however.

It says, "The package management system is locked by another process or permission was denied".

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

That usually happens when you have apt-get open in a terminal or are running the stock HAM (app manager). It is temporary until that other process closes.

If you are not aware of any of the above being true then an apt-get or dpkg process might be stuck.

Code:

ps -A | grep apt

in a terminal should show anything running (replace apt with dpkg for another possibility)

You can kill an offending process by typing in a terminal

Code:

sudo kill <pid>

, with <pid> being that pid number revealed by "ps -A"

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Ok.

apt-worker was locked and was not closing. I killed it and everything is now working. Thank you!

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I have already said this but well :). After seeing how well stuff that I said in this thread before works in cutetube I just have to suggest it one more time..sorry. Small enhancement request for great app to make it stand out even more.

- Grayscale icons (Looks good on every theme!)
- Centered icons in start view

Great app! Sadly the gzipping and reading of repo packages takes way too long but that´s something what is somewhat IMO slow as hell in most of package maintain apps on most of linux distroes.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I just noticed something very strange.

I added extras-devel as a repository, enabled it and then tried to look for modrana but was unable to find the application.
I then went to the default App manager and enabled it there and it was able to find the package. Not sure why I couldn't find it with the Faster Application Manager.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

after adding did you update repos?

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

fapman crashes on my system:

Code:

~ $ dpkg-query -W fapman

fapman        0.6.8.1-1

~ $ gdb /usr/bin/fapman

GNU gdb (GDB) 6.8.50.20090417-debian

This GDB was configured as "arm-linux-gnueabi".

(gdb) run

Starting program: /usr/bin/fapman 

(no debugging symbols found)

...

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.

0x40ef74a0 in QString::toLatin1() const () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

0x40ef74a0 <_ZNK7QString8toLatin1Ev+0>:        ldr        r3, [r1]

(gdb) bt

#0  0x40ef74a0 in QString::toLatin1() const () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#1  0x40ef7718 in QString::toAscii() const () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4

#2  0x43148c58 in QNetworkSessionPrivateImpl::syncStateWithInterface() ()

   from /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/bearer/libqicdbearer.so

#3  0x40c76a60 in QNetworkSession::QNetworkSession(QNetworkConfiguration const&, QObject*) () from /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4

#4  0x0001a4d8 in ?? ()

#5  0x0001a4d8 in ?? ()

Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)

(gdb) quit

This happens if I have Dummy APN chosen in Desktop. (Comes with libicd-network-null v1.3)
Other applications like Firefox and microb works fine through my Bluetooth-net. PC is set as a router to Internet. Also vanilla Application manager works with Dummy APN and through BT net.

Also Marble crashes when Dummy APN is in use.

Bug report for Qt4 made, because it would seem like a bug in Qt4.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I also had a crashing fapman with dummy apn enabled but I was using usb-networking. Next time I'll try debug mode.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Seems to be a bug in Qt4.
Also Marble crashes with same kind of backtrace

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 901722)

after adding did you update repos?

Hmm, this could possible be due to it being unable to connect to the repoistory, not sure why.

this is what I had setup

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7...enshot081w.png
By rac3r5 at 2010-12-22

but I noticed I was getting an error when I enabled it.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4...eenshot091.png
By rac3r5 at 2010-12-22

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

@rac3r5,
Classic :)
It´s fremantle not freemantle. Always double check for typos.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Can someone help me....i can't install anything using Faster Application Manager. It says "Unknown error - see the log for details."

Here's the log:

/usr/bin/apt-get -qsy --allow-unauthenticated -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts="" --auto-remove install healthcheck
--- 2010-12-25 02:08:55 ---
Output from last process:
---
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libtpsession libqtm-serviceframework libqt4-declarative
nokiamaps-navigation-provider-settings-002 libqtm-multimedia
libqtm-publishsubscribe libconninet0 libqtm-messaging qtm-modest-plugin
libqtm-location dsme-thermalobject-surface libqtm-versit libgq-gconf0
libconnsettings0 libqtm-bearer libqt4-translations libqt4-script
libqtm-sensors libqtm-systeminfo
Hmm, seems like the AutoRemover destroyed something which really
shouldn't happen. Please file a bug report against apt.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qtm-maemo-metapackage: Depends: libqtm-bearer (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-location (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-messaging (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-multimedia (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-publishsubscribe (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-sensors (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-serviceframework (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-systeminfo (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-versit (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Internal Error, AutoRemover broke stuff

It wasn't like this before, i think i install Tweak Flash and enable Smart Reflex by
sudo gainroot
echo 1 > /sys/power/sr_vdd1_autocomp
echo 1 > /sys/power/sr_vdd2_autocomp

Not sure if these have anything to cause Faster Application Manager not working.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

The crash bug has also been reported to https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/ind...1808&atid=6314

Looks like a Qt bug and I guess the only way to "fix" it would be to stop using QNetworkSession...

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

to the developer: I would like to have disable image/icon download option to save data cause everytime I want to refresh repo content I will have do download around 10mb data and data is expensive here. Also, if it can save downloads to some directory before installing, then it would be great(so that i won't have to download it again)! and finally, if we can browse a local deb file then download its dependencies and install main file from local drive, then it would be great as well. btw, in some cases default app man seems better than fapman, one case being installing new app when there's a dependency problem in already installed debs.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Noob question: Isn't this app isn't a cheap replace for dpkg or synaptic? I'm missing a search function.

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 905418)

Noob question: Isn't this app isn't a cheap replace for dpkg or synaptic? I'm missing a search function.

Hmm. You do know that type-to-search works with this app also? (This kind of searching works almost everywhere with Maemo OS)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 902636)

@rac3r5,
Classic :)
It´s fremantle not freemantle. Always double check for typos.

Lol, thanks I always thought it was 'FREE" :)

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

fapman helped me with the FOSS mediaplayer's delegates, so as a thank you... :)

fapman now:
http://i54.tinypic.com/67o5li.jpg

and with the patch below:
http://i56.tinypic.com/xqe63r.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/292o7eq.jpg

Patch: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/...n/fapman.patch
Binary: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/.../fapman/fapman