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x-lette 2010-11-19 09:34

Re: [Announce / WIP] Theme Customizer - testers and votes needed
 
But I just did some small changes and desktop restarted within a reasonable time. Doing other changes before, I waited for hours and nothing happened (not really but sitting in front of the device and watching it doing nothing feels like this).

d-iivil 2010-11-19 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877768)
But I just did some small changes and desktop restarted within a reasonable time. Doing other changes before, I waited for hours and nothing happened (not really but sitting in front of the device and watching it doing nothing feels like this).

Still, technically it does same things even you don't change anything. However, the hildon-desktop and hildon-home are sometimes tricky and won't start in reasonable time and it's all about the positions of moon and stars as far as I have seen. But not once they have failed to start on my device, even I run the customizer several times a day while testing it.

fasza2 2010-11-19 20:53

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@d-iivil
I did a few test reboots and apparently it does work when I don't change anything. It works very different to the reboot button from switch off menu (vibro+white notification light then black screen then white notification then backlit nokia logo, handshake then good to go). Indeed it did work (backlit nokia logo+nolight+novibro, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen, good to go)

If I change font size from +3 to +2: backlit nokia logo+nolight+novibro, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen

Im using kernel 2.6.28.10power42
I hope it helps

mrexcess 2010-11-19 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 877589)
HydroCarbon + Awoken icons are working fine on my device :/

oooh pretty :D nice work, as your next post suggests i think i ticked save as new every time, ill try it again without that using the method you suggest, nice work :D

EDIT: yep, not ticking 'save as new' now and it suddenly works, time to play :D thanks for the help

Big Ash 2010-11-20 00:53

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hi, having trouble importing fonts, imported two fonts at first and worked fine, but now every time i import a font, it dosnt appear in my fonts list although i still get the message "import complete, restart theme customizer to use new fonts".

any help?

Ali 2010-11-20 01:12

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so..... did u restart???not the customizer and to be sure do a reboot to and see if they appear.

anismistry 2010-11-20 01:42

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HI D-iivil
just love this app and love that you can make the icon smaller.
but i have a question when i am going into the theme customiser from setting it does not start. Does it now needs PR 1.3 to work properly and if can deinstall and install it again.
Pls help i am missing on all the benefits of this app

thanks

fasza2 2010-11-20 04:48

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@d-iivil
When I open TC the settings window becomes unresponsive. It's really a minor thing not even annoying. Just put it here because you seem to use this thread as a bug tracker... :)

anismistry 2010-11-20 05:17

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Pls help when select theme customiser from the settings it does not start, i have PR 1.2 and Plastic theme installed

Pls help why am i not able to use TC and am not able to update even to the new version

Does the TC require PR 1.3 or some other files conflicting with it

Thanks

d-iivil 2010-11-20 06:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anismistry (Post 878528)
Pls help when select theme customiser from the settings it does not start, i have PR 1.2 and Plastic theme installed

Pls help why am i not able to use TC and am not able to update even to the new version

Does the TC require PR 1.3 or some other files conflicting with it

Thanks

It requires PR1.3 and Qt 4.7.

d-iivil 2010-11-20 06:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 878519)
@d-iivil
When I open TC the settings window becomes unresponsive. It's really a minor thing not even annoying. Just put it here because you seem to use this thread as a bug tracker... :)

Yeah, that's because it's Qt program and Nokia didn't implement Qt plugins to be ran from settings application properly. So that's just something you need to live with :(

d-iivil 2010-11-20 06:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrexcess (Post 878325)
oooh pretty :D nice work, as your next post suggests i think i ticked save as new every time, ill try it again without that using the method you suggest, nice work :D

EDIT: yep, not ticking 'save as new' now and it suddenly works, time to play :D thanks for the help

Glad to hear it's working. I'll remove that checkbox in next version. Users can still save their current theme as new by going throught the top menu -> save as.

d-iivil 2010-11-20 06:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ash (Post 878446)
hi, having trouble importing fonts, imported two fonts at first and worked fine, but now every time i import a font, it dosnt appear in my fonts list although i still get the message "import complete, restart theme customizer to use new fonts".

any help?

Are you using the extras-testing (0.9-49) or devel (0.9-5x) version? In the latest devel version I've made some fixes to the importer.

d-iivil 2010-11-20 06:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 878313)
@d-iivil
I did a few test reboots and apparently it does work when I don't change anything. It works very different to the reboot button from switch off menu (vibro+white notification light then black screen then white notification then backlit nokia logo, handshake then good to go). Indeed it did work (backlit nokia logo+nolight+novibro, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen, good to go)

If I change font size from +3 to +2: backlit nokia logo+nolight+novibro, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen, nokia logo with no backlight, black screen

Im using kernel 2.6.28.10power42
I hope it helps

Maybe it's the power kernel, dunno. Customizer uses standard reboot command which should be even safer way to reboot than the power-menu option.

Technically it's the same if you don't change anything from UI and tap the "save and reboot" button; customizer still runs all the things and makes all changes with given parameters even you changed or didn't change anything.

anismistry 2010-11-20 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 878549)
It requires PR1.3 and Qt 4.7.

thanks for your quick reply, i hav not updated to 1.3 because of some bugs

would u mind confirming if there are big bugs or minor ones in PR 1.3

will it hamper some major usability of n900

thanks

Big Ash 2010-11-20 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 878556)
Are you using the extras-testing (0.9-49) or devel (0.9-5x) version? In the latest devel version I've made some fixes to the importer.

Hi d-iivil, am using version 0.9-52 but still getting this problem, rebooting the phone dosnt help either.

d-iivil 2010-11-20 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ash (Post 878672)
Hi d-iivil, am using version 0.9-52 but still getting this problem, rebooting the phone dosnt help either.

Can you send me the font you're trying to import? Also tell me where did you placed the font so I can try to import the same font from same location on my device.

I also uploaded version 0.9-53 to devel with following changes:
* changed the save as new theme -function to be able to overwrite existing themes created by theme customizer
* removed the save as new theme -button from main UI, please use the option from top menu instead

d-iivil 2010-11-20 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anismistry (Post 878566)
thanks for your quick reply, i hav not updated to 1.3 because of some bugs

would u mind confirming if there are big bugs or minor ones in PR 1.3

will it hamper some major usability of n900

thanks

I'm sure you can find enough information on how PR1.3 is working around this forum to make up your mind.

I personally haven't faced any new problems after upgrading to PR1.3.

deny_winarto 2010-11-21 00:50

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Thanks for the app.

But how do i restore everything to default?
I think the app icon was somehow different.. After i change it there's no more shadow behind it..

Restore theme files doesn't work..
Restarting doesn't work either

How do i restore eveythng to original?

anismistry 2010-11-21 03:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 878702)
I'm sure you can find enough information on how PR1.3 is working around this forum to make up your mind.

I personally haven't faced any new problems after upgrading to PR1.3.

Thanks, i have downloaded PR 1.3 and havent faced problems yet.

I was able to download the theme customiser. Thanks for this effort it helps in not getting of your desktop.

just come across an idea can expandible icons be made with transitions. what i mean is suppose we press the the calculator icon instead of taking us to the full application and takes its own time, it just expands say to take half the desktop size and we can use the calculator there and there instead a new window opening.

fasza2 2010-11-21 03:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deny_winarto (Post 879131)
I think the app icon was somehow different.. After i change it there's no more shadow behind it..

There is a box saying show apps background, I belive thats the kind of shadow you are looking for.

RAZOR 2010-11-21 04:33

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d-iivil, what about my request bro? You haven't implemented it yet? :(

AlMehdi 2010-11-21 04:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anismistry (Post 879187)
Thanks, i have downloaded PR 1.3 and havent faced problems yet.

I was able to download the theme customiser. Thanks for this effort it helps in not getting of your desktop.

just come across an idea can expandible icons be made with transitions. what i mean is suppose we press the the calculator icon instead of taking us to the full application and takes its own time, it just expands say to take half the desktop size and we can use the calculator there and there instead a new window opening.

No i don't think it would be possible.. not by Theme Customizer anyway. It is hard coded to the hildon-desktop i think and would probably need some major rewriting to do this. I like the idea thoug.. maybe someone could make a docky which opens "widgets" like this. AWN docky have this capability on the desktop for the terminal and stuff.

d-iivil 2010-11-21 06:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deny_winarto (Post 879131)
Thanks for the app.

But how do i restore everything to default?
I think the app icon was somehow different.. After i change it there's no more shadow behind it..

Restore theme files doesn't work..
Restarting doesn't work either

How do i restore eveythng to original?

How-To, reverting to original. Part 1
Tap Theme Customizer's top menu and choose restore files
Uninstall theme customizer from app manager
Reboot

If the step one fails, you can type this into terminal and see if you face any errors:
sudo /sbin/customizer "restorefilespushed"

d-iivil 2010-11-21 06:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RAZOR (Post 879201)
d-iivil, what about my request bro? You haven't implemented it yet? :(

Was it the ability to choose what icons to use for catorise / app manager?

Sorry, I'm fixing / implementing new stuff pretty much on the fly when my brains gets something fixed up. I really haven't had a lot of time to actually do all things promised here (yet) :)

x-lette 2010-11-21 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 877794)
Still, technically it does same things even you don't change anything. However, the hildon-desktop and hildon-home are sometimes tricky and won't start in reasonable time and it's all about the positions of moon and stars as far as I have seen. But not once they have failed to start on my device, even I run the customizer several times a day while testing it.

Fullmoon today and desktop didn't start within 10 minutes. Maybe it has to do with updating theme customizer to current version and using it without restarting between.
I'll add a screenshot of what the desktop looks like when customizer is done. In background you see conky which regularly updates but is completely unreadable. On top there is the black rectangle, which I guess belongs to system menu (the one opened with tapping on battery icon area). The other menu (opened by pressing the button on the side of N900) opens and offers the standard entries including reboot and shutdown. So I can at least shutdown correctly and restart the device.

d-iivil 2010-11-21 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 879423)
Fullmoon today and desktop didn't start within 10 minutes. Maybe it has to do with updating theme customizer to current version and using it without restarting between.
I'll add a screenshot of what the desktop looks like when customizer is done. In background you see conky which regularly updates but is completely unreadable. On top there is the black rectangle, which I guess belongs to system menu (the one opened with tapping on battery icon area). The other menu (opened by pressing the button on the side of N900) opens and offers the standard entries including reboot and shutdown. So I can at least shutdown correctly and restart the device.

Okay. Have you done anything "special" to you device? Since hildon-desktop and hildon-status menu are by default kind of processies that gets automaticly started if they are killed (that's what theme customizer does, kills hildon-desktop and hildon-status-menu). I'll add later some "start service if not autostarted" things and see if they will solve your issue.

x-lette 2010-11-21 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 879454)
Okay. Have you done anything "special" to you device? Since hildon-desktop and hildon-status menu are by default kind of processies that gets automaticly started if they are killed (that's what theme customizer does, kills hildon-desktop and hildon-status-menu). I'll add later some "start service if not autostarted" things and see if they will solve your issue.

I've that modified desktop-hildon-home-stuff installed and currently using 5 desktops. I just remeber having read somewhere that killing desktop is not the way it's supposed to be restarted. There should be a clean way to restart desktop without killing it. I'll try to find the thread where it was discussed, must have been about desktop activities, I guess.

EDIT: just one link found:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=12
This is about using dsmetool for starting services. I guess, desktop should already run under this supervision, in which case it would make no sense in starting it this way again. Otherwise, I didn't find any hints that it is really started using dsme. Guess I will have to play around with my device a bit.
Besides that, the tool seems to have changed a bit since writing the linked entry: on cmdline it says:
Code:

USAGE: dsmetool <options>
Note that the <cmd> should include absolute path.
  -r --start-reset=<cmd>          Start a process
                                  (on process exit, do SW reset)
  -t --start-restart=<cmd>        Start a process
                                  (on process exit, restart max N times,
                                    then do SW reset)
  -f --start-restart-fail=<cmd>  Start a process
                                  (on process exit, restart max N times,
                                    then stop trying)
  -o --start-once=<cmd>          Start a process only once
  -c --max-count=N                Restart process only maximum N times
                                  in defined period of time
                                  (the default is 10 times in 60 s)
  -T --count-time=N              Set period for restart check
                                  (default 60 s)
  -k --stop=<cmd>                Stop a process started with cmd
                                  (if started with dsme)
  -S --signal=N                  Set used signal for stopping processes
  -u --uid=N                      Set used uid for started process
  -U --user=<username>            Set used uid for started process
                                  from username
  -g --gid=N                      Set used gid for started process
  -G --group=<groupname>          Set used gid for started process
                                  from groupname
  -n --nice=N                    Set used nice value (priority)
                                  for started process
  -m --oom-adj=N                  Set oom_adj value for started process
  -d --start-dbus                Start DSME's D-Bus services
  -b --reboot                    Reboot the device
  -v --version                    Print the versions of DSME and dsmetool
  -h --help                      Print usage

The option -k doesn't seem to restart the given service again.

Sadly, I didn't find more infos on that. The thread about activity manager also just mentions killing the desktop. I cannot find the thread where I read about another solution.

d-iivil 2010-11-21 17:13

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I already use dsmetool to shutdown and restart hildon-home. hildon-desktop should be safe to just kill. I'll try to see if I can use the dsmetool to restart the hildon-desktop also. In my previous tests I could successfully shutdown the hildon-desktop, but for some reason I couldn't get it back up using dsmetool, that's why I ended up using just killall command.

x-lette 2010-11-22 11:42

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I did some playing with theme customizer today and changed about ten times fonts, icons sets and colors and now I think I figured out when and why desktop doesn't restart anymore: It seems to have to do with MyContacts (the app/widget which groups contacts and let them get accessed from desktop easily) which seems to run like a kind of a daemon (wasn't aware of that, always thought when enabling the widget and closing the app it's closed). Restarting worked perfectly when MyContacts doesn't run. As soon as I started it (even without adding the widget) the desktop was f***ed up after restart and I had to reboot. So it's not your fault at all and I gues you can't even do anything about it.
So I'll have to keep in mind to first close MyContacts and then do changes to appearance. Kind of annoying but both apps (MyContacts as well as Theme Customizer) are needful.

Nevertheless, I still haven't found the comment about restarting that hildon stuff. :( (makes me think I'm getting old and senile)

d-iivil 2010-11-22 16:26

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Try with 0.9-56 which should be on devel any minute now.

Changelog is
* small changes to restarting services when not choosing to autoreboot
* un-needed backups are automaticly removed now

I changed all killalls to dsmetool shutdown and startup -method.

x-lette 2010-11-22 18:35

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Will try and comment on new behaviour.

RAZOR 2010-11-22 18:54

Re: [Announce / WIP] Theme Customizer - testers and votes needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 879226)
Was it the ability to choose what icons to use for catorise / app manager?

Sorry, I'm fixing / implementing new stuff pretty much on the fly when my brains gets something fixed up. I really haven't had a lot of time to actually do all things promised here (yet) :)

No problem, take your time :)

x-lette 2010-11-22 19:03

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I'm so sorry to say, but now it's even worse than before.
MyContacts was not running, I changed font in theme customizer, applied changes and after saying sthg like "restarting services" the desktop was crap again. But in difference to before, all icons were put to top left corner. I could open top in xterm by system menu but I didn't get the focus to that window. So I again had to reboot ...
Good side: the desktop didn't get completely messed up, like it does somtimes, when that hildon stuff dies. After reboot everything was fine again. (Before it was restored too, you shall not think it messed up my desktop every time).

x-lette 2010-11-22 19:27

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OK, it's not as easy as it sounds:
  1. changing directly after upgrade with MyContacts not running failed
  2. changing after reboot with MyContacts not running succeeded
  3. changing after first success with MyContacts running failed
It's reproducable that MyContacts prevents desktop from getting restarted. So it looks like being the same behaviour as before. But somehow I think, it was faster before. :o

d-iivil 2010-11-22 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 880524)
OK, it's not as easy as it sounds:
  1. changing directly after upgrade with MyContacts not running failed
  2. changing after reboot with MyContacts not running succeeded
  3. changing after first success with MyContacts running failed
It's reproducable that MyContacts prevents desktop from getting restarted. So it looks like being the same behaviour as before. But somehow I think, it was faster before. :o

Yes, killall is faster than dsmetool first shutting it down' then sleep for few seconds and then start them up with dsmetool again.

I'll revert back to killall and investigate if I can shutdown the mycontacts before killing the desktop and then start mycontacts again.

x-lette 2010-11-22 19:40

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Just realized: after last change the system dock was gone (where clock and connection state is displayed). Only items left were button for accessing application list and name of provider. (sorry, forgot to take a screenshot). Obviously something didn't get restarted correctly. Besides that, everything else worked fine.

d-iivil 2010-11-23 09:17

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Okay, try 0.9-57

Now it detects if mycontacts is running, kills it, then kills desktop etc and finally starts all of those including mycontacts if it was running in the first place.

x-lette 2010-11-23 10:10

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Great work! But sadly, still doesn't work. Result is what you can see on screenshot.

d-iivil 2010-11-23 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 880931)
Great work! But sadly, still doesn't work. Result is what you can see on screenshot. (to be attached)

****. It works fine on my device :D I installed MyContacts just to test it out and it's working :(

Edit: just to make sure, is the program called "crochik's mycontacts"?


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