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Jarige 2012-04-24 12:37
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1196900)
Who says it is an open source product? It isn't.
If it's uncompiled Python (which is the practice) then it's source is open for everybody to see by definition. I heard Wazapp is written in Python, but I might be wrong on this.
Who says it's not open source?

don_falcone 2012-04-24 12:37
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1196952)
Oh yeah, whatscrapp will charge you after 1 years usage anyway.
...at least for Android, whereas it stays free for iOpS. I once mocked a girl about it (==going with what their hip "friends" dictate for "apps"/connectivity/social ********, and not reading WhatsApp's TOS. She was then angry about me; how i could dare. :D)

The most interesting thing still wasn't clarified: what will happen if "the vendor" finds out about all those people using an unlicensed/unofficial port/hack? Will their alter the protocol? Will they secure their official clients to make it harder to analyze? ICQ had a history of this, to block all the unofficial stuff ilke Miranda and Trillian.

youmeego 2012-04-24 12:38
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
maybe tgalal release n900 version first today?

Jarige 2012-04-24 12:41
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1196952)
He should charge just to troll you bellbags who do not realise what a sack of crap it is.
I know Whatsapp is crap, I'm probably not going to actively use this. The whole idea of a closed source product using closed standards is against my principles. But I am still following it's development because I know a lot of people will love this program.

TMavica 2012-04-24 12:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1196962)
...at least for Android, whereas it stays free for iOpS. I once mocked a girl about it (==going with what their hip "friends" dictate for "apps"/connectivity/social ********, and not reading WhatsApp's TOS. She was then angry about me; how i could dare. :D)

The most interesting thing still wasn't clarified: what will happen if "the vendor" finds out about all those people using an unlicensed/unofficial port/hack? Will their alter the protocol? Will they secure their official clients to make it harder to analyze? ICQ had a history of this, to block all the unofficial stuff ilke Miranda and Trillian.
I think so, they will block us
and how we can pay when the whatsapp start cost

Dre 2012-04-24 12:55
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1196952)
Not if he compiles it to bytecode.

He should charge just to troll you bellbags who do not realise what a sack of crap it is.

Oh yeah, whatscrapp will charge you after 1 years usage anyway.
Since you think this is crap, then why are you following this thread?

ammyt 2012-04-24 13:19
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pablocrossa (Post 1194632)
If you can simultaneously NITdroid and Python then yes ;)

It should be trivial to adapt as you have said, probably move files around and pimp up the DEB, if the python has any harmattan-specific calls (which I doubt) then replace them :) that last part should be the biggest problem hehe

I swear either I am stupid or inventing stuff but didnt you sit your IGCSEs last year?? :p I seem to recall reading that somewhere :D
Hehehe, I am actually still working on two programs written in PyQT, a new NITDroid build, and looking forward to Wazzapp (or whatever it is/will be called). That EULA stuff however feels worrying...

Nope, you ain't stupid :P, grade 9 is a preparatory year for the official CIE examinations, you do all of your mock exams there, grade 10 right now is the big thing, heck, I just finished my official ICT practical paper 2 yesterday, my first official CIE exam hehehehe :D

ronald122789 2012-04-24 13:21
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
still no version for n900??

ammyt 2012-04-24 13:23
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vale2k7 (Post 1194635)
AMMYT check your mail account!!!
Dude I toldchu I'm outta crack right now!

EDIT: Oh wait, that wasn't your mail, please disregard.

godofwar424 2012-04-24 14:53
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronald122789 (Post 1196986)
still no version for n900??
Most likely wont happen for a long time or at all.

Not this one anyways.

It will be portable but it will require work to make it integrate into the N900 OS which is DIFFERENT from the N9 OS.

godofwar424 2012-04-24 14:56
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1196952)
Not if he compiles it to bytecode.

He should charge just to troll you bellbags who do not realise what a sack of crap it is.

Oh yeah, whatscrapp will charge you after 1 years usage anyway.
WhatsApp is closed and as a company they are douches.

But why the hatred towards people using the app? Alot of people on iOS and Android don't even know about Open systems let alone know that iOS and Android (the systems they adore) are proprietary and closed n evil :P

If most of your friends have iPhones n Droids and all use WhatsApp, it is a very big thing for the N9 to have it to, allows that multiplatform chat which Facebook does offer but it isn't push and its a battery killer.

Besides any development like this is a big step for the N9 and shows what it and its community can do.. Rubbing salt into Nokia's forever growing wounds!

malkavian 2012-04-24 16:02
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1197025)
allows that multiplatform chat which Facebook does offer but it isn't push and its a battery killer.
Wrong. facebook use push, as google-chat, ICQ, yahoo-msn, Microsoft MSN, and ANY OTHER Instant Messaging (IM) System. It is a must for INSTANT messaging.

Whatsapp uses jabber protocol modified to avoid security. Facebook uses plain jabber. So they use similar battery power. Google-talk uses a modified jabber for reducing net use and then improving battery life. Microsoft MSN uses more battery. Don't know about Yahoo MSN. Skype is wich more battery use.

Hariainm 2012-04-24 16:12
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemental (Post 1196950)
It's brain****
Meaning: May, 01
can you explain this?

elemental 2012-04-24 16:23
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1197042)
can you explain this?
The message posted by Tgalal on twitter has been encoded in brainfu*k programming language.

I used interpreter to execute the code in the message and it printed out "May, 01" as the output.

CepiPerez 2012-04-24 16:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
You can try tgalal's tweet here:
http://www.lordalcol.com/brainf***js/ (change ***)

godofwar424 2012-04-24 16:54
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1197041)
Wrong. facebook use push, as google-chat, ICQ, yahoo-msn, Microsoft MSN, and ANY OTHER Instant Messaging (IM) System. It is a must for INSTANT messaging.

Whatsapp uses jabber protocol modified to avoid security. Facebook uses plain jabber. So they use similar battery power. Google-talk uses a modified jabber for reducing net use and then improving battery life. Microsoft MSN uses more battery. Don't know about Yahoo MSN. Skype is wich more battery use.
Ahh, I assumed skype and facebook as well as all traditional IM didnt use push messaging.

My post is still valid in the fact that its a big step for the N9 as is ANY programming development.. WhatsApp no matter what the haters want, is a major app in terms of the amount of people using it. So having an app for it on the N9 equals the playing field once more and means less burn for those smartphone end users who actually bought an N9 instead of an iPhone or Droid

godofwar424 2012-04-24 16:56
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Well May 1st is the date then I guess

malkavian 2012-04-24 17:06
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1197059)
Ahh, I assumed skype and facebook as well as all traditional IM didnt use push messaging.
Talking about push and pull only have sense when talking about email (or about doors).

Push: The client mantain a minimal connection. The server is who sends (pushes) the messages to the client when they arrive.

Pull: The client every some time asks for (pulls) messages on the server. So messages will be sended every some time, not just when they arrives. So an IM won't ever use pull.

Push uses less battery than pull if you receive messages from time to time but more if you receive messages every few minutes.

tgalal 2012-04-24 18:36
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Hey guys, I'm releasing a public beta on May 1. Sorry for making you wait all that long :)

coopere 2012-04-24 18:48
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1197094)
Hey guys, I'm releasing a public beta on May 1. Sorry for making you wait all that long :)
Patience is a virtue. Looking forward to it.

ammyt 2012-04-24 18:58
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemental (Post 1197044)
The message posted by Tgalal on twitter has been encoded in brainfu*k programming language.

I used interpreter to execute the code in the message and it printed out "May, 01" as the output.
So this leaves us with the following options:
  1. Wazzapp (or whatever it is/will be called) is going to be released on the first of may,
  2. tgalal is actually a demonic spirit, holding an ancient mystical seal stolen from the field of the angels, aiming to break it and unleash its power with his full wrath, commencing the apocalypse and proving that Mayans were incorrect about the world's last day. Did I mention that the seal is broken to bits, and every NOKIA N9 out there resembles a piece of the seal? Once all N9s are purchased, the seal is complete, the new world order starts, all people with no possession of a piece of the seal or its preliminary beta form (N900/N8x0) is going to be rejected, fall to the undergrounds to an unknown, despaired destiny. The Earth will be left in ruins, lead by all seal possessors exclusively, not a single Android/iOS user will survive.
Edit: Oh, and tgalal's post here is just a trap, for all non-believers.

malkavian 2012-04-24 19:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
ammyt I want the same drug you have taken XDDD

patlak 2012-04-24 19:18
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1197094)
Hey guys, I'm releasing a public beta on May 1. Sorry for making you wait all that long :)
Can you tell us whether you'll release it on N900 also on May 1st?

ibrakalifa 2012-04-24 19:21
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
http://healthsolutionbd.com/wp-conte...sh-shock-1.jpg

WAZZAAAAAAAAAP IS COMIIIIIING, :D

GigaByte 2012-04-24 19:23
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 1197118)
So this leaves us with the following options:
  1. Wazzapp (or whatever it is/will be called) is going to be released on the first of may,
  2. tgalal is actually a demonic spirit, holding an ancient mystical seal stolen from the field of the angels, aiming to break it and unleash its power with his full wrath, commencing the apocalypse and proving that Mayans were incorrect about the world's last day. Did I mention that the seal is broken to bits, and every NOKIA N9 out there resembles a piece of the seal? Once all N9s are purchased, the seal is complete, the new world order starts, all people with no possession of a piece of the seal or its preliminary beta form (N900/N8x0) is going to be rejected, fall to the undergrounds to an unknown, despaired destiny. The Earth will be left in ruins, lead by all seal possessors exclusively, not a single Android/iOS user will survive.
Edit: Oh, and tgalal's post here is just a trap, for all non-believers.
Well I'm not exactly sure on what to pick, but I guess option 2...
http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index...g&size=600x564

q8phantom 2012-04-24 19:42
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
شكرا طلال ممكن ترسلي النسخة على الخاص

GigaByte 2012-04-24 19:53
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 1197118)
...The Earth will be left in ruins, lead by all seal possessors exclusively, not a single Android/iOS user will survive...
I guess the tgalal apocalypse ain't that bad then, it seems appealing to me TBH! :D

voancea 2012-04-24 19:55
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
1 Attachment(s)
tgalal said on twitter: beta version on may 1, 2012 available for download!

ravent-n900 2012-04-24 20:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by q8phantom (Post 1197152)
شكرا طلال ممكن ترسلي النسخة على الخاص
in english !

pablocrossa 2012-04-24 20:13
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkavian (Post 1197122)
ammyt I want the same drug you have taken XDDD
I believe the drug is overdose of CIE examination ;)

iMarck90 2012-04-24 20:14
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Great, hope to see also the source code..
Thanks tgalal for his work.

siegfreid 2012-04-24 22:23
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
sag mal tarik,
bist du eigentlich ein türke? wenn ja woher :)

milanjakob 2012-04-25 02:52
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
he is from egypt. and if he was turkish, why would you assume that he speaks german? lol

reinob 2012-04-25 08:31
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemental (Post 1197044)
The message posted by Tgalal on twitter has been encoded in brainfu*k programming language.

I used interpreter to execute the code in the message and it printed out "May, 01" as the output.
Do you normally execute any piece of source code you find on a forum?!

Geez.. take care!

elemental 2012-04-25 08:39
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1197381)
Do you normally execute any piece of source code you find on a forum?!

Geez.. take care!
No, I just know that brainfu*k exists, how it works and how it looks. I use my knowledge not only to decode stupid messages but also to provide you the best experience with my EmuMaster project.
Cheers

ajack 2012-04-25 08:51
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
@tgalal: I can wait for 1-May-2012, but would like to know what version will be available that day? N9, N900 or both? If it's not going to be available for my phone, I don't have to hold my breath. Maybe you should manage people's expectations a bit as a courtesy. We are after all you fans! :)

reinob 2012-04-25 11:06
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elemental (Post 1197384)
No, I just know that brainfu*k exists, how it works and how it looks. I use my knowledge not only to decode stupid messages but also to provide you the best experience with my EmuMaster project.
Cheers
It was more a joke than anything else. But still it is never advisable to execute code snippets people publish (there have been a few "incidents" here caused by people executing random shell scripts posted in this forum.)

TMavica 2012-04-25 11:08
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
whatsapp inc may do something avoid it release

blakkpanter 2012-04-25 13:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GigaByte (Post 1197136)
Well I'm not exactly sure on what to pick, but I guess option 2...
http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index...g&size=600x564
Im hoping option 2!

youmeego 2012-04-25 13:36
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1197418)
whatsapp inc may do something avoid it release
how can they?


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