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Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1314020)

No I meant tweets like that are stupid, but I'm inching closer to saying Sailfish(Jolla) is stupid too, still some ways to go though.

It wasn't a tweet, it was their Facebook post. They have become very active on it lately, talking about projects and other cool stuff.

Jalyst you seem to turn into Dave999 very inpatient xD But I can't blame you

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I am extremely patient. I just want to point that out.

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Why don't they post such stuff on their own website too? Oh, wait...
They have more employees than my company, and still keep sucking at communication.

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Seems that most of you finally sees what I have said since back in early days.

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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1314034)

Why don't they post such stuff on their own website too? Oh, wait...
They have more employees than my company, and still keep sucking at communication.

are yo making a new device with new os :O

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You guys are impatient :D
I bet we will see product announcement on MWC 2013 (25-28 February 2013). Is that soon enough for you?

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...not being impatient, just questioning their methods / platforms / content of communication.

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Lol, and people are already freaking out over here. Why so impatient when there's nothing to wait and at most just surprises to have. If they fail with the hardware announcement, just move on.

Have had no problems waiting for this one compared to Nokia's Maemo and MeeGo devices. Helps when you are not actually waiting for anything.

You all also might wanna remember that while you should expect stuff to happen when you talk about multinational companies with tens of thousands people working for them. We are talking about start up with 60 people. Scale it up.
Again if they manage to actual ship hardware before summer like they said once again yesterday, i will be amazed.

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1314001)

Soon, WTH does that mean, do they mean imminently, or is it still sometime this quarter?
If the latter, why do they even bother with silly little tweets like that, they're stupid >.>

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1314082)

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http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=521

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I thing we are very patient since jussi said that we should get device information in the end of 2012 back in October last year.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1314098)

I thing we are very patient since jussi said that we should get device information in the end of 2012 back in October last year.

He was quoted about once, and there were countless examples last yr of him being; misquoted, taken out of context, or the writer simply wanting to read more into what he actually said.
Even if that really was their official line from July to Nov*, it was always ridiculously ambitious to be doing the full reveal at that point, so no, you can't use it as some kind of juvenile thing to point to constantly.

*which is extremely questionable

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1314099)

He was quoted about once, and there was countless examples last yr of him being misquoted, being taken out of context, or the writer simply wanting to read more into what he actually said.
Even if that really was their official line all along*, it was always ridiculously ambitious to be launching at that point, so no, you can't use it as some kind of juvenile thing to point to all the time.

*which is extremely questionable

I can and will if people continue to using the ridiculous impatient card all day long every day 247.

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Well, that's the child you are, carry-on...

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1314105)

Well, that's the child you are, carry-on...

Excellent, I will.

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Golla sues Jolla over similar name

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Finnish mobile phone accessory maker Golla is suing Jolla over the use of similar name. Golla justifies this because the brand has existed 12 years and they have spent over 2 million euros at registering the brand. Golla even says that they have not closed the possibility to make mobile phones at some point . . .

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1315352)

Golla sues Jolla over similar name

Golla wants to make mobile phones, lol. Why not they work together and Golla should be the official accessory provider? :D

Now this is something interesting.

I don't see any harm in unity :-/

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Same story posted some time ago by thedead, my thoughts there:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...71#post1313571
If you follow the source discussions, what they're gunning for sounds great...
But even they're not sure how truly united it could ever be in real-world terms, & whether that would even be practical/ideal.
It probably will end-up being unified on a much more superficial level, or if not, only a very small subset of components etc.

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FAQ about Jolla & Sailfish OS

About Sailfish OS

How is Sailfish OS different from Android? Both are described as open source operations systems.

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Android is controlled by a single corporation and not developed in a way which would allow to contribute to the whole OS from start.

Does Sailfish support Android applications?

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Yes, via Alien Dalvik by Myriad. Many Android applications will run unmodified on Jolla devices. To benefit from Sailfish's user interface, developers have to port their applications.

Will Sailfish OS have the same menu icons as seen on the preview video? Feedback has been rather negative.

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Feedback has been clear and current video only shows a preview version and therefore not the final one.

Will MeeGo Harmattan applications run on Sailfish OS?

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No, but technically apps can be ported easily from Nokia N9.

Will Sailfish OS be available on Nokia N9?

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Not officially, but Jolla is ready to help the community in porting Sailfish to Nokia N9. The user experience won‘t be the same though as on an original Jolla devices.

Will it be possible to install applications from 3rd party sources?

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Yes.

Are we going to have haptic feedback (i.e vibration) with click sounds like used in MeeGo Harmattan?

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Yes, non-graphical feedback will be available.

Is Sailfish OS going to have a notification screen?

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Yes, there is a place for notifications which will feel quite familiar to MeeGo Harmattan users.

Will Sailfish OS have a similar standby screen like N9 which displays time and notifications?

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That feature is dependent on the display technology of the device.

Is Jolla going to provide a desktop applications, like Nokia Suite, to connect the smartphone for synchronization, updates, application management, etc.?

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Jolla will have a standard solution. Details will be published at a later moment.

About application development

When will the Sailfish SDK (software development kit) be available?

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Announced for early Q1 in 2013. Jolla is working hard on the SDK. More information here.

What application framework will be used in Sailfish OS?

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Focus on Qt & QML but also support for HTML5. At the moment Qt 4.8 (Qt 5 in future).

What about Python, Pyside and Pygame support?

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Since Sailfish is based on Mer, support will be there - otherwise easily installable.

Is Sailfish OS‘ package manager Debian or RPM based?

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RPM.

Will Sailfish have a similar security framework like Aegis (MeeGo Harmattan)?

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No Aegis.

Will chroot (operation that changes root directory for the current running processes) be supported?

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Yes.

About Jolla

Having people in your team who previously worked on Nokia N9, will you provide any updates for that phone?

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No, we can‘t do that. N9 is a Nokia product.

Will Sailfish OS exclusively run on Jolla phones?

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Sailfish OS is not exclusive. We will make devices that run Sailfish, but the operation system will be also licensable by others. ST-Ericsson for example has already announced support for Sailfish.

Do you also consider to produce tablet computers like Samsung Note or iPad?

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Initially focus is on smartphones, but Sailfish will be available to others which can create various devices.

When will Jolla launch their Sailfish phone?

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Jolla plans to start selling their first device before summer 2013. Details are yet to be announced.

In what countries will Jolla phones be available?

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Product or market availability is not announced yet.

Will your phone be available on the US market?

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Jolla's first focus on product distribution will be in Europe and Asia. US is not planned in the first stage.

Will Jolla have their own factory for the manufacturing of smartphone devices?

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No, but we have partner for that.

Does Jolla have any IPO (Initial Public Offering; corporations' shares to the public) plans?

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Jolla is exploring various funding options - stay tuned for more news.

What are current partners/friends of Jolla?

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D.Phone, DNA, ST-Ericsson, Myriad, Opera, Cyberport, Joiku, Invesdor, Tekes, Digia.

Will Jolla be present at the Mobile World Congress (MWC) in Barcelona in February?

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No official answer, but possible.

There are various Jolla logos (website). Which is the official one?

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That's part of the "unlike" idea. Check Jolla.com and click on the logo to comment/vote for your favourite one.

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Thank you. But I could answer all these questions already. We need new answers/questions.

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1315863)

About application development

When will the Sailfish SDK (software development kit) be available?

Great news for MeeGo Harmattan developer's community to migrate to Sailfish OS :
- Python/PySide to make Qt/Qt Quick softwares;
- no Aegis;
- chroot à la Maemo 5.
So, in theory, Sailfish OS will be more open for developing purposes than MeeGo Harmattan : compile and run C/C++ programs, easily run Debian/Ubuntu by chrooting.

Just hope that Jolla maintain Qt 4.8 in the future (besides Qt 5.0), because PySide is available up to Qt 4.8 (there is no release date of PySide for Qt 5.0). Doing so, many Python/PySide/Qt Quick softwares for MeeGo Harmattan could be ported to Sailfish OS.

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1315863)

Will Sailfish have a similar security framework like Aegis (MeeGo Harmattan)?

Still, I hope there will be some kind of security framework, just not like aegis.
Actually, almost the same thing, but:
- that would show the required autorisations on install (like android)
- that would let me add my own keys.

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I hope Jolla announce theyr device 11 february 2013.......

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Yes, time to come out of the closet. MWC or NEVER.

Let's hope they can release the SDK will before that. I'm more intressting in the SDK at this state and yet a other delay of the sdk would be devastating.

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1315959)

I hope Jolla announce theyr device 11 february 2013.......

LOL how ironic would that be, you should communicate that idea to them :D

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Well guess who will be talking at MWC???
http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...t-00.14.52.jpg

Marc Dillon CEO of JollaMobile

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Old news again, this thread is an eco of the orignal gangster jolla thread.

Still glad to see some jolla presence :D

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If Elop is on straight after Marc, he should leave a whoopee cushion on the chair for him.

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Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1317654)

If Elop is on straight after Marc, he should leave a whoopee cushion on the chair for him.

Or at least "thank" Stephen Elop for axing MeeGo so Jolla could exist. That would be an awkward segue.

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Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1317654)

If Elop is on straight after Marc, he should leave a whoopee cushion on the chair for him.

If that case, I hope marc trying something like this to get even:

https://twitter.com/fakeselop/status/221672036769079296

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New video! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=b4M-J2zODHc

SORRY! It's only Morpog concept video :/

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Been posted before, tis just a concept, but thanks.

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There's at least one other company making Sailfish phone, Zopo. Can't say i have heard about them before.

http://nokiagadgets.com/2013/01/28/z...ed-smartphone/

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I have never heard about them. Shell campony? That Zopo big screen with Sailfish can be nice. Zopo seems to know how phones should looks like 2013.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1318345)

I have never heard about them. Shell campony? That Zopo big screen with Sailfish can be nice. Zopo seems to know how phones should looks like 2013.

They have quite a bit of devices looking at their site.

My first thought reading that was that it would be cool to have phablet like Sailfish phone, but then thinking more of it i'm not sure if the vanilla UI really benefits too much from a +5" screen.

That said be it anything between 3-6" screened device, more options is always good.

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So Chinese OEM's are already starting to come out of the woodwork, that's great news, this was Jolla/Sailfish's main focus, maybe it's starting to pay-off.
Just 3yrs ago people where saying WTF's ZTE & Huawei, same for many other Chinese OEM's, now some of them are quickly becoming major players.

I hope Jolla will care about our data privacy and wont be an other big datacollector like google...

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https://twitter.com/JollaMobile/stat...61581395603456

What do they mean by introduce. Sell it to me?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1318357)

https://twitter.com/JollaMobile/stat...61581395603456

What do they mean by introduce. Sell it to me?

Announce i guess is the term more often used.

The device will be available before summer and i can promise you that it wont happen in Q1.

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1318355)

I hope Jolla will care about our data privacy and wont be an other big datacollector like google...

Somehow i doubt Jolla has the resources or the need for data collecting at moment like Apple, not to talk about Google that's whole business is to collect data about you and different groups.

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1318362)

Announce i guess is the term more often used.

The device will be available before summer and i can promise you that it wont happen in Q1.

If that was the case why didn't they say announce?