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I got to ask...Did Jolla invent the wheel again?

Today most transactions are international...

Was Jolla totally unaware about this? 4 weeks for one transfer.

They are reinventing the bicycle again :D

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been using for a few days now.
It it of course faster than the phone, but it's of course not near perfect and bit slower than I'd hoped.
battery doesn't last, at least it definitely can't compare with the iPad mini i have.

One evening left at 33%, dead the day after.
Love Jolla, but so much miss Nokia :-(

Evebpn MS people are not as good in optimising their hw as Nokia people were.

I want to go back in time before Elop and have Nokia still here pushing Maemo all the way :-(

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Sell it and buy something useful instead?

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Battery is definitely sub-par, I hope the new upcoming phones perform better.

I also found screen colour still inaccurate, better than Jolla phone but still sub-par in this age.

No matter how clever or hard working Nokia's SW and HW engineers are, their board are dumb and stupid to hire EFlop and having hope for WP. They deserve it. But Jolla should survive and getting better.

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To be honest, I loved the N900 and maemo (and I still do). But I think that you are glorifying Nokia and Maemo over the top.

Hardware wasn't that nice as many here tell. Yes it was a beast in respect of performance and features. On the other side many of you guys seem to have already forgotten the USB connector fiasco, the two bright spots on the screen and the not very durable coating of the screen. And even the battery live was worse compared to the Jolla phone.

And yes maemo was a good system but it had also some let downs, like missing caldav support, missing mms support, bluetooth support was crippled and there were many more...

I think you know well why the Maemo devices were so brilliant. It wasn't alone Nokia, it was the great community. This community is still there. Smaller but still great. So I think it doesn't help to celebrate the good old times but to work on a brighter future!

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Woooohoooo
"We are happy to let you know that we are almost ready to ship your Jolla Tablet!"

I got the mail a second ago and will pay within this minute :eek:

Edit, everything worked, payed additional 51.87$ tax.

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Your take especially is what I'm interested in about the tablet. Congrats, hope everything goes smoothly for you.

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It's great to see so many new tablets popping up. One of the side effects of doing that unofficial warehouse build is I can see the spike of new downloads over the last few days.

The tablet does have a few bugs left, and hopefully now there are a few more of us we can get to the bottom of them. I'm sure the sailors don't have a lot of time for such a small group of users, but I bet they'll fix stuff if we do the detective work.

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Congrats!

They are almost ready... :D DANGER! DANGER!

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What would have happend if Jolla built second phone instead of the troublet?

Would Jolla be in better, same or worse state...it's impossible to tell but still an interesting thought.

While you think about that. Think about this.

What will be Jolla next move...how long can they survive without proper hwpartners...and sales

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IMHO, jolla would be better.
They can focus only on phone specs.
No need to think about different processor, tablet display, split screen, etc.
So the OS and software development could also grow faster.

I also think they could get more pre order, as for example is myself.
I've been waiting for jolla phone 2 since the first phone came out.
But when I heard their campaign is about tablet, I feel a little disapointed.
Because I already has a tablet and I don't need another one.
So I just decided not to pre order and instead buy a jolla phone 1 to replace my N900.

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My worry is how do they keep the lights on? If their only income is licencing sailfish to inex etc, how much do they expect to make per device?

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Not wanting to go into numbers, at least they target the right markets!
We as users can only profit from intex offering to 1 Billion potential customers.
Also mi-Fone has a good strategie, operating from central african country Nigeria, it could be possible to expand to the whole continent.
mi-Fone is propagating the hastag #miAfrica, indicating this ambition.

Looking from outside, jolla is exactly doing what i personally would suggest every small business:
Find, focus and specialize on your core product.
Offer it to the broadest potential customer base possible.
Operate with minimum risk.

So after,
"Hey, we need 100.000* Phones sold per year to survive in HW Business, aah no problem, we will make it"
and
"Woohoo, look, here TABLET, BestofMobile Award, we compete with frikkin' Apple"
and
"uuhuuu, we are sinking*, please support us with all* you got",

licensing business of a 92%* finished product with minimal effort in distribution and focused forces into development sounds like a sane idea.

*exaggeration or personal empiric measurement

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how do you think a scam of their most loyal customers fit their strategy of the billions of customers?

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It is not nice to say, but the potential new customers don't know the history... As much as we complain over being left behind as a community, intex customers have propably never heard of Jolla but will think SailfishOS is an intex thing.
Those few people having seen or bought the Snapdeal - JPhone or even participated in TabletGate are likely to be close to our communitys mindset and not representative of the indian market.

Intex is a common brand in India, as i understand people buy an intex because they want to support theyr homemarket or the Phone being affordable in comparison to western offerings.
It is kind of a fresh start.
When Jphone started people complained about low spec hardware, alpha stage OS and buggy Alien Dalvik.
Those factors have vastly improved for the coming Intex fresh attempt.

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Then I will head over to india and tell them unless Jolla don't come through with full refund to those who wants that.

We tell one customer today, next day two knows. The day after 4 knows and before you know it a billion customers boycott Jolla until they fully refund. :D

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please don't!
I know you are an honest guy, but that would ruin it for all of us :D

And as much as i bet jolla is waiting with the first round of refunds until all left tablets are sent out or at least asigned.
I firmly believe they bet on the future again and do not have the money for the second round "yet".

Shouting scam all over india will hurt your own refund propability :rolleyes:

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It's just for jolla to pay us back...Jolla broke their word more times than allowed 20151231 11:59 CEST.

IT WOULD RUIN IT, SAID MOSEN.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, SAID PRIDE.
IT'S RISKY, SAID EXPERIENCE.
IT'S POINTLESS, SAID REASON.
GIVE IT A TRY, WHISPERED THE HEART.

An organisation with money is no match for a man on a mission.

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Inex make watches.
http://inexwatches.com/history.html

Intex make phones.
http://www.intex.in/mobiles

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Well done, you get a Ron Atkinson spotters badge for for finding that!

Maybe inex sailwatch will be the new scam :D

On a side note I bought a watch in India once, it lasted just under 3 days. I hope they make better phones, Jolla's life depends on it!

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Nice badge!
If anyone spot a refund. Raise your eyebrows.

Did Jolla said they needed 19 weeks to do one transfer? Hey. That sounds fair. Why not 37 weeks while we are at it :eek:

Happy waiting :D

Btw. Tell me if you need more slack.

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Feel free to to use the badge, I don't think it's copyrighted :D (also 'give it the little eyebrows' was another of Rons sayings!)

I have a good feeling about the refund this week, if not I can't pay my rent :p

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Maybe you can take a loan somewhere and put the Jolla refund as security :D

Will be a good week indeed, nice weather with lots of BBQing. I doubt we will ever see a real refund given how Jolla treated lastu. Is Jolla still protected by court?

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No refund today?!?!

Worst Monday ever. Tell me why I don't like Moondays ...

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It's nearly Tuesday where jolla come from, so here's hoping to a great Tuesday !

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Please... for the love of all that's holy and divine... shut the **** up. This has bypassed comedy and parody and has become irksome and toilsome. You're on Jolla blog with the same stuff.

I know you're making a joke. Perhaps there's some real anger involved. But after 30 pages of the same "scam", "no refund", et al going on; perhaps reticence might be a tactic that you employ.

Even if just for a little bit.

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Yeah. Maybe I'm totally furious. I might have lost it. Could be like
dr jekyll and mr hyde.

Dave is a Jolla fanboy, however dave999 is crazy, uncontrollable refund hunter.

Tought Jolla ignored this issue for a few weeks now so I thought to ask them directly what's going on...

Their blog is a perfect place to ask. There they can answer when if they want. Ignore it if they want.

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Like it or not, Dave's got a point. It's been more than three months since Jolla promised refunds. Perhaps their tactic is to hope that people either forget or give up. We need people like Dave who do not give up and make sure we do not forget.

Dave is right on another thing too. Jolla is not to be trusted. Anyone who wants to deal with them and/or 'support' them is a fool.

Unfortunately those who realize all this do not need to be reminded three times a day and the fools who do want to support Jolla despite their recent past will not listen to the voice of the reason, even if that voice used a better language than Dave. In other words, Dave is just wasting time.

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I can understand this better than you'd think.

But you're not asking... you're commenting much like you are here. Key difference is that when you ask a question, you silence yourself awaiting the answer to be given to you. When you're commenting, you might continue the noise since you expect to broadcast and not receive an answer.

Agree with the months, I'll attempt to see Dave's point. Reminders need not be so repetitive with negative rhetoric that incites more than inform.

Any company that's out for only your money is not to be trusted. And any software that doesn't receive funding or has a very active following is a foolish to be depended upon in critical applications. Simply put, either greed, lack of interest or sheer development stalls and prioritization that does not align with your immediate needs tend to place you in a position of being taken advantage of by somebody (group, company, corporation, so forth).

Given that some folks are actually receiving their tablets, that changes the frame of this discussion slightly for a minority wherein we still have a very vocal person saying the same things over and over. Time and place for it all.

Let the new information come forth. Let the oft repeated mantras fall to the wayside. I know that I'm personally waiting on a refund. It hasn't happened yet. I need no reminder. Not daily, not hourly, not improperly spelled. I'm also in that same boat.

I get what you're saying though, actually agree. I just had my (weekly, monthly) fill, said my piece.

Besides... it's Dave. There's no shutting him up. Ever.

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Dave makes me laugh.
I'm waiting for a refund.
So while I'm waiting, I'm happy to laugh.

small writing on the other hand.... ****ing annoying

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it's the journey that matters not the destination!

Gerbick, enjoy the ride!

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Speaking of where this is all headed...

Do the ends justify the means or the means justify the ends?

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I've backed many other things in the past, they've delivered them all - all but this one.

I know that I will probably never fund another project again unless it's already something shipping or it's a special edition that I'd like. That's the "ends" to this journey for me.

I'm not bitter, just smarter. And above all, I still wish Jolla the absolute best in all of their endeavors.

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It's headed towards the final countdown...

Can't answer for everyone, but to me. Neither, since when the **** hit the fan it's impossible to really justify anything. Everything just goes crazy...

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touché!

I'm funding this
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/l...ter-box-ever#/
Then send to jolla, they can fill it up in no time!

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Don't waste your money when this is available...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...vT9KW9G9omPFZg

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Into the wrong Category are we not¿

Tuesday! The day when good deeds happen.

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I think if Jolla as a company can tell again and again "soon" and do not deliver, Dave as simple maemo mortal can say "refund" and "scam" with no problems.

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I can guarantee you that Dave999 will stop these type of posts soon...