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Capt'n Corrupt 2009-04-19 19:01

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
It would be nice if the N900 had a slightly separated keys with defined edges and a small 'bump' or different texture on the 'f' and 'j' keys so that they could be found without without looking.

I can 'almost' use the keypad without staring at the keys, but I'm not at that point yet!

I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand. I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.


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johnkzin 2009-04-19 20:07

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 280811)
It would be nice if the N900 had a slightly separated keys with defined edges and a small 'bump' or different texture on the 'f' and 'j' keys so that they could be found without without looking.

I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand.

And require less pressure to press... and have a definitely "click" feeling when you successfully press them. The E71's key feel is MUCH better than the N810's. And, IMO, the G1 is a perfect example of how a small device can have a great key feel, and a great 5 row layout (it could fit in the same area as the N810's, I'm pretty sure).

Quote:

I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.
That'd be an interesting idea. Almost like the layout of the stylus keyboard, in a way.

ekul 2009-04-20 01:13

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 280811)
I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand. I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.

A number pad would be nice but you're right, it would spell the end of the d-pad. A decent compromise would be to be re-label the keyboard to have the numbers in a group on the right side keys laptop style rather then along the top. The fn actions already there are traditionally above the top row anyway so moving them isn't going to be a huge shock. And with double tap fn locking it to number entry you basically have a dedicated numberpad without losing existing functions.

johnkzin 2009-04-20 01:31

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ekul (Post 280858)
it would spell the end of the d-pad.

No, it wouldn't. You'd just have to put the d-pad back where it belongs: on the face of the device.

KristianW 2009-04-20 01:42

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Hey ,

How about a number keypad that doubles as a d-pad ?
It would have to be toggled somehow.
The "5" key (and perhaps 8,4,6,2) would have to be a bit bigger.

7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3

8<>up , 4<>left , etc , 5<>OK

( 7 , 9 , 1 , 3 might be used for diagonal movement )

gerbick 2009-04-20 07:46

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 280344)
. . . sounds like a great way to end up with a hole in your screen.

Only if you're clumsy or an idiot.

Flush bezels on countless other products out there and having a hole in your screen is not a main byproduct of said feature.

Cadabena 2009-04-20 10:10

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KristianW (Post 280864)
Hey ,

How about a number keypad that doubles as a d-pad ?
It would have to be toggled somehow.
The "5" key (and perhaps 8,4,6,2) would have to be a bit bigger.

7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3

8<>up , 4<>left , etc , 5<>OK

( 7 , 9 , 1 , 3 might be used for diagonal movement )

Hmm, sounds too fiddly for quick use. With the d-pad, you know that there are only four directions, and it's practically impossible to click it wrong. Also, when typing numbers and you go back, you'd have to keep switching number lock on and off. Johnkzin has the right idea; put the d-pad and back/menu/home back on the face where it belongs!

attila77 2009-04-20 11:19

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
That would increase device size, though :( How about dual slider, qwerty + dpad on one (big) slide, dpad + numpad on the other (small) ? And then the small slide becomes the most convenient way of (un)locking the NIT as well.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-04-20 20:25

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 280917)
That would increase device size, though :(

If you're talking about re-locating the Dpad, it doesn't necessarily mean that the device must get bigger. Just shift the screen to the right to make more room on the left (or vice-versa). Many mobile devices feature an asymmetrical layout.

Of course, some individuals may have an issue with the units styling, but I think it could look quite regal if done right.

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johnkzin 2009-04-20 21:17

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Yup. If you look at the Nokia N97, it wouldn't be too hard to move the D-pad to between the red and green buttons on the face (you'd need to make the diagonal button less diagonal, though). Which, IMO, is where it belongs :-)

You could use a dpad the size of the ones on the E61i or E71, as well. In fact, if you directly stole the ones from the E61i, you'd be able to put it in the same side-rail space that's on the N810, and you'd have a 5way dpad PLUS 8 other buttons (IMO: menu, escape, home, zoom in, zoom out, full screen toggle, and then maybe two soft buttons). Or you could use fewer buttons and make it more elegant. But, my point is, you can easily put a smaller dpad on there, and Nokia already has those smaller dpads in their parts inventory.

(or, the E71's button group, which then also incorporates the throbbing status light into the space between the dpad ring and select button)


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