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Texrat 2009-01-10 21:28
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 256241)
You don't understand the decision because you're not thinking like the people who made the decision.
It's more than that-- I posed that question and did not receive a satisfactory reply. Unfortunately those are still details I cannot publicly disclose, but suffice to say I strongly disagree with what I've seen and been told.

The death of the N800 form factor has left a serious void in the product line IMO. If acknowledging that means not thinking like whoever made such a decision, then thank God for that! :D

(and aside to daperl: thanks much!)

Rebski 2009-01-10 21:37
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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I'm not even referring to the N900 or anything close-- I mean take the N800 itself and polish a few aspects. Improve video speed. Increase onboard memory. Upgrade to the BP-4L battery. Change to a transflective screen. Reduce size and weight a bit if possible. Things like that. But KEEP the current features like FM radio. An "N801" so to speak.

I believe the N800 form factor still has legs. I do not understand the decision to completely move away from it. I think there should always be at least two form factors at any given time: with keyboard and without. There should also always be some overlap between release schedules, and NEVER gaps.
What a brilliant suggestion. It is so obvious that it never occurred to me. There is little wrong with the N800 form factor. To my mind Nokia has now taken two opportunities to dump a potential design classic, the first being the N770 - my opinion is that they should have kept that design and upped the spec to N800 standard, but never mind.

An N800 with the improvements you mention would be a winner in the interim and they can take all the time that they need to polish the N900 without having to rush it out the door.

And they sacked you? The fools!

SD69 2009-01-10 21:46
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256250)
It's more than that-- I posed that question and did not receive a satisfactory reply. Unfortunately those are still details I cannot publicly disclose, but suffice to say I strongly disagree with what I've seen and been told.

The death of the N800 form factor has left a serious void in the product line IMO. If acknowledging that means not thinking like whoever made such a decision, then thank God for that! :D

(and aside to daperl: thanks much!)
Maybe I'm taking your comments too literally - you understand the decision, but just don't agree with it. Fair enough. You might be right, but don't let it get you down.

Texrat 2009-01-10 22:06
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Eh, I disagree with something I am not sure I understand if you want to be completely literal... lol.

Texrat 2009-01-10 22:08
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 256256)
And they sacked you? The fools!
Actually it was my position that was sacked-- I was left with 2 months to find another. I found a few, but anything more than that I will have to discuss privately.

mullf 2009-01-10 22:21
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256250)
The death of the N800 form factor has left a serious void in the product line IMO.
I still miss the 770 form factor. :'(

Texrat 2009-01-10 22:35
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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 256287)
I still miss the 770 form factor. :'(
Eh, I wasn't a big fan of it (I thought it looked cheap) BUT let me qualify my opinion: I think there is still a need for a keyboardless form.

In fact, now that I'm out of Nokia, I am going to sit down and do a serious design of how I think one should look.

mullf 2009-01-10 23:43
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256297)
Eh, I wasn't a big fan of it (I thought it looked cheap)
Nonsense. The N800 looks cheap. The N810 is better, but the 770 is the finest of them all.

speculatrix 2009-01-11 00:41
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256297)
Eh, I wasn't a big fan of it (I thought it looked cheap) BUT let me qualify my opinion: I think there is still a need for a keyboardless form.

In fact, now that I'm out of Nokia, I am going to sit down and do a serious design of how I think one should look.
did you apply to the pandora project? after all, you know what works, you understand the mentality of the customers, you know how the stuff works.
not sure what role you should have... designer/blogger/community liaison/tester?

qole 2009-01-11 01:25
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The N800 doesn't look cheap. It looks like a classy, high-end transistor radio, circa 1963.


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