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Texrat 2009-10-18 00:52

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by jandmdickerson (Post 349904)

That's an awfully small group! :D

Of course it makes sense that ultimately, of everyone trying to get the last word (wait for it)...

There can be only one!

ysss 2009-10-18 01:58

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 349890)
I didn't want credit, but in a roundabout way, I became the face of those wanting rotation. I could be reading about anything Portrait or ASR related, and my name would come up. It was amazing, to be honest. The ensuing ruckus wasn't my intent, but after having been told how the N900 wasn't meant for ASR, would be useless, and so on, it felt good to see my insight into what the smartphone community wants was dead on. No one will say I was right, but I was, and ya should've listened when I said it. But we're on something else now...

i understand.
I think that was amazing too.

YoDude 2009-10-18 12:33

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 350024)
i understand.
I think that was amazing too.


Ah yes, the power of crossposting is amazing...


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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 349891)
I didn't get the memo. Must've been asleep. :p

Here ya go, "The Memo"...

...after completing the survey you can see your responses in copy-and-pasteable format.

I know we all decided to "move on" but since you missed the memo and in a "roundabout way" you have become the "face" of those who do not recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible...

Feel free to copy then paste your results in as many forums as you like. I think you will also be amazed how often your name will come up. :)

sjgadsby 2009-10-18 15:53

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
Enough. I'd hate to have to close a potentially useful thread on the "user friendliness" of the site due to petty sniping.

Move on. Use this thread for constructive site criticism and ideas.

christexaport 2009-10-18 20:42

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
I know MF isn't nearly the size of Maemo.org, but we've managed to merge our two communities. What is the limitation keeping this one from having a single login?

allnameswereout 2009-10-18 21:18

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 350604)
I know MF isn't nearly the size of Maemo.org, but we've managed to merge our two communities. What is the limitation keeping this one from having a single login?

Size matters not. Ie. whether you merge 100 or 1000 or 10.000 users you'd automate the process anyway in case of LDAP with ldif & some scripts.

Currently used software matters (hence comparing between sites is both useless and very complex, and not necessary or productive). There are several software platforms which are 'unaware' of each other which is precisely what SSO solves (on authentication layer, that is). Question is if it is possible to implement SSO [and which SSO framework] in each software platform. Meanwhile, every framework has their pros and cons. If that is not already complex enough, imagine you're gonna end up developing code which must be tested very well because SSO is related to authentication which makes it a potential weak chain in security framework. Add to that, the developers who'd implement are professionals with limited time available.

You can read the discussions here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on
http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/sso-m...009-05-27.html

Write less, read more, thank you.

stever 2009-10-18 21:38

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
Just to add the perspectives of a new user. I appreciate single sign on isn't that easy to achieve, but having a consistent header across the top of the different sections of the site, containing what appears to be a single login prompt and registration button makes it really unclear what's going on and it's not obvious that there is more than one thing here to log in to.

Therefore if we can't have single sign on then it needs to be clearer to new users where the boundaries between the areas that need different accounts are. Alternatively a bit of extra information in the following places might have helped eplain what was going after I'd registered but still couldn't get into the forum:

- welcome mail from the garage should say that you'll need to register for the forum separately

- the "you have used x number of your 5 logins to the forum" message should say something about garage logins not being valid here and you must register separately

christexaport 2009-10-19 02:55

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 350643)
Size matters not. Ie. whether you merge 100 or 1000 or 10.000 users you'd automate the process anyway in case of LDAP with ldif & some scripts.

Currently used software matters (hence comparing between sites is both useless and very complex, and not necessary or productive). There are several software platforms which are 'unaware' of each other which is precisely what SSO solves (on authentication layer, that is). Question is if it is possible to implement SSO [and which SSO framework] in each software platform. Meanwhile, every framework has their pros and cons. If that is not already complex enough, imagine you're gonna end up developing code which must be tested very well because SSO is related to authentication which makes it a potential weak chain in security framework. Add to that, the developers who'd implement are professionals with limited time available.

You can read the discussions here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on
http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/sso-m...009-05-27.html

Write less, read more, thank you.

Wow. I was only wondering what the bottlenecks to SSO were, and I got more than I bargained for. Lots of reading, indeed. I'd have never found that info on my own in a timely fashion, either, so thanks. I am just a new guy, and all the reading in the world won't replace the veterans that know the path to the right info. So asking beats reading when you don't know where to start.

And for every hour I spend writing, 6 is spent reading. My personal rule. But thanks for the advice.

christexaport 2009-10-19 03:44

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
600 posts is nothing for a big mouth like me. :) I posted over 3k posts on SF via my mobile only in record time.

allnameswereout 2009-10-19 04:02

Re: User-friendliness of talk.maemo.org
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 350837)
Wow. I was only wondering what the bottlenecks to SSO were, and I got more than I bargained for. Lots of reading, indeed. I'd have never found that info on my own in a timely fashion, either, so thanks. [..]

Oh, I merely got those URLs from a post on page 16 (default settings) in this very thread: voila... :)


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