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ndi 2010-05-04 00:37
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 641547)
I hope it's "aww damnit we should've jumped on the maemo bandwagon earlier"
I hope it's "Man, good thing we can still jump on that Maemo bandwagon yet".

They still don't have the hang of it. Monolithic "firmware" releases is the best sign you are in the wrong age.

When a sued and broken-into-pieces behemoth like MS releases daily for closed source, the bar is pretty high.

craftyguy 2010-05-04 00:42
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
You're damned-right Nokia is not competing in the current smartphone market.

Hell, at least Apple is responsive about quickly fixing USABILITY BUGS. Something Nokia shoves under the 'monolithic' releases that take 4 months and waiting..

ndi 2010-05-04 00:42
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 641555)
It depends. When things are booming experience is paramount and degrees can be unnecessary.
Well, depends. More US, less so in other parts of the world. Around here, there's always been a sort of "level" one needs to be before getting a certain job, and this more the rule than the exception (there are plenty exceptions).

Still, the majority of businesses (especially above a few employees) require a certain degree as specs when announcing a job opening and don't even interview without those requirements.

True, however, that our education system is (was) a bit different, more linear. We have since adhered to international standards, substantially lowering the bar for a batch of degrees.

I agree, however, that the scenario listed has more to do with layoffs or restructuring than actual level mismatch.

Laughing Man 2010-05-04 00:44
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 641555)
It depends. When things are booming experience is paramount and degrees can be unnecessary. My bachelor's degree was interrupted due to family obligations but until last year it was never a hinderance in getting a job that paid well above what my AAS should have warranted-- even at Nokia. I got credit for experience, certification, etc. But last year with the economic meltdown all that went out the window. I'm really lucky I fell into a job at all. Some of my former colleagues have not been as fortunate, oddly being told they're overqualified while lacking "the proper degree".

Nuts.
Well the overqualified thing is usually linked to pay. Not to mention some organizations are afraid to hire people with higher degrees since they may be resistant to being trained (or at worst, may ditch the company the moment the find a better opportunity).

Although the same thing can apply to people with lots of experience.

GreatGonzo 2010-05-04 00:55
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
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Originally Posted by gom4381 (Post 635292)
As quoted from Engadget,
stagnant profit growth
My number one pet hate in today's share holder focussed operation of companies. Why the incessant need to grow profits? Huge profits are stile huge profits and if someone doesn't increase their profits the company gets devalued by a drop in share prices. Something is REALLY wrong, but then again I am a liberal, open-source endorsing scientist who values decency not greed.

ysss 2010-05-04 01:02
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
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Originally Posted by GreatGonzo (Post 641593)
My number one pet hate in today's share holder focussed operation of companies. Why the incessant need to grow profits? Huge profits are stile huge profits and if someone doesn't increase their profits the company gets devalued by a drop in share prices. Something is REALLY wrong, but then again I am a liberal, open-source endorsing scientist who values decency not greed.
Because the company projects increase of revenue/marketshare/profit in their quarterly reports?

Because most current valuations already take into account future growth?

ndi 2010-05-04 01:02
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Expand or die isn't a suggestion. Everyone expands and if you don't you die eaten. All the decent companies are now part of an unscrupulous megacorp. So, grain of salt.

DeargDoom 2010-05-04 01:07
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 641555)
It depends. When things are booming experience is paramount and degrees can be unnecessary. My bachelor's degree was interrupted due to family obligations but until last year it was never a hinderance in getting a job that paid well above what my AAS should have warranted-- even at Nokia. I got credit for experience, certification, etc. But last year with the economic meltdown all that went out the window. I'm really lucky I fell into a job at all. Some of my former colleagues have not been as fortunate, oddly being told they're overqualified while lacking "the proper degree".

Nuts.
I think its a mistake to imagine these kinds of decisions are taken to improve the quality of the work being done. A recession is an opportunity to weaken the hands of the workforce.

Demanding high quaifications and preferring low experience is one way of doing this. Now you and many others like you feel lucky to have a job at all and still others wish they had one. This in turn puts pressure on even those with the currently desired qualifications.

If a company doesnt taken these opportunities it grows fat and becomes vunerable to takeover.

GreatGonzo 2010-05-04 01:18
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Actually the article mentions stagnant profit growth, which means the profit growth isn't increasing which make the whole thing even more absurd. This is assumes you build in an exponential model into the planning. Oh dear....

mrojas 2010-05-04 01:23
Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicola.mfb (Post 641531)
The problem is not *now*, but where the market is going, failing on the future bets may resolve in a complete disaster.



Peoples cry becouse the C-6 release will not make Nokia rich, while investing the C-6 R&D on maemo/meego will make them happy :)

They try to correct nokia mistakes to have more effort on maemo/meego to have them dominate the world market just to be sure that it will supported/enhanced for ever :)

Niko
Not that I am singling you out or anything, but what the numbers suggest is precisely the inverse: the market is going towards getting smartphones to the masses (C-6 and its cousins, they practically cost nothing to Nokia). That is why RIM gets good numbers quarter after quarter, that is why Microsoft launched its Kin phones. Letīs remember that Nokia sells almost more smartphones than HTC, RIM and Apple combined.

The touch-screen luxury phone market is small and has fierce competition. If you (eventually) don't get to the masses, you will not succeed. That is why Palm ended up being bought by HP, that is why Motorola is crashing; and that is why Apple extended its operations overseas and started giving the iPhone the features the world demanded. You can have 1 or 2 "Apples" in that segment, but not more.

So what Nokia is going to do mostly there, is to release one or two flagships there, for the sake of "saluting the flag", as we say here. There is where MeeGo comes in.... hopefully in time, with enough polish, features, services and specially, innovation.


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