Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

No, my point is with regards to a device like the iPhone, which is locked down and has functionality that is limited by Apple out of the box, versus the N900 which imposes no such restrictions.

You've already given up and run from the least restrictive to the most restrictive, so I'm a little confused as to your point. If you think that's fine, so be it, but don't get on our case for disagreeing with you.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Not sure why it should matter -- I didn't claim "l33t hacking skills". I refer to a mindset which you don't seem to share (as further evidenced by your confusion here).

And considering that your Apple media-consumption appliances don't permit "pissing around in terminal editing scripts", even that much would be a "liberty" they lack.


The closed applications? There's freedom to ignore or replace them, anyway. I have a hard time being bothered by them

The closed platform components? Yeah, that is a problem. But I'd rather have some freedom than no freedom.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

sand paper balls LOL thats hilarious. help me uderstand. is it the lack of multi touch that makes gives it the sand paper sensation? and if so, please explain. i thought multi touch for internet was basically just pinch to zoom type stuff. is the absence of pinch to zoom really that serious?

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

I don't get why we need mulitouch either. I find it unnecessary unless you want to type on a touchscreen (who really wants to type on a touchscreen a physical keyboard is much better really I prefer the feel of real buttons) or you want to zoom but tap to zoom works pretty well on the Nokia n900 and so does the swirl gesture. So do we really need multitouch it doesn't actually make browsing better contrary to what Apple fanboys say.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

I've found [double tap to zoom in\out] to work better on pocketables and pinch to zoom works great on larger slates (iPad). The pinch-to-zoom implementation on iPad is different than iPhone.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

The gradation of the area zoomed is much better, instant and to taste. Resistive screens are very binary in nature when zooming. I guess its a tradeoff with the preciseness of inking on resistives.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

People justify things their device's inadequacies by calling these inadequacies useless.
Flash, MMS and now virtual keyboard.

And there I was thinking that everyone wanted a portrait VKB

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

With pinch-to-zoom you have to use 2 fingers, BUT it's faster to switch modes (from panning to zooming) than using swirls.

When you're browsing, generally people have to hold the device with 2 hands anyway, because of the need to type URLs or other text entries... this is even more so with bigger tablet devices where it's not practical to hold with 1 hand.

On the iPad, the pinch-to-zoom actually takes into account of where you're initialing the pinch. Thus you can combine pan/scroll/zoom in one motion.
I think most people will find that most preferable on 7"> slates.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Also the feeling of scrolling and pinching makes you feel like you are interacting with the screen in a more personal way. Typing on the iphone is supposed to be faster than 90% of hardware keyboards on mobiles.

I would personally prefer to trade a keyboard, resistive screen and inking ability on the iphone though.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

ups.. bad timing today for reading the forum all of the threads are about hate and love... See you next time!