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Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 816341)

Ahh you clearly don't understand.

It's a hacker's phone. Therefore they aren't flaws, you're just not intelligent enough to use it correctly. Imagine it's like the iPhone4 antenna problem, but rather than holding the phone wrong you're using your brain wrong ;)

heh, very funny ^^
the biggest bug isnt inside the system, but its sitting in front of it, right? ;)

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by jonin60seconds (Post 815733)

I've had my N900 for a year and I must say that now never want to own another Nokia ever again. I've never been so frustrated for so long with a phone before.

I seldomly blog in anger but I had to get this off my chest. So if you want to know why I'm never using a Nokia again, check out my anger here!

Unfortunately, I can well see how you ended up feeling like this. I happen to like my N900, but I would not recommend it to anyone who doesn't like to tinker with it.

And your blog comments section has this gem:

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I feel sorry for the people at Nokia who work on Maemo because I imagine they live in a little shed at the bottom of the garden with no heating and the management feed them cold porridge once a week.

If you knew how true that is :mad:

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by extechop (Post 816800)

Yeah I love that comment! I like it when people put effort into a comment!

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

I guess the title of this thread should be:

The end of my Nokia Smart phone dream

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 816879)

I guess the title of this thread should be:

The end of my Nokia Smart phone dream

Yeah the thread title is a bit attention-whory, isn't it.

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by thebtman (Post 816545)

I'm sharing my experience when using the device, and, frankly, its not for you to tell me what threads I can or cant participate in. Its important for the purpose fo balance in such threads that both parties give their views.

You are not happy with your N900, bad luck. Sell it. Move on. Same advice to the OP. No pressure.

But, dont spend all eternity berating those who dont have a problem who bask in the pleasure of owning one and ffs I'm not going to enter into discussion about problems which might or might not occur (eg the microUSB port) when at this point in time the only issue I've had was my fault; a broken screen. If the USB issue was huge their would have been huge outcry such as that of the iPhone4 antenna. But their hasnt. Maybe 1000 cases worldwide and thats nothing.

I like the N900. I like Nokia....always have. Perfection doesnt exist, but for me, the N900 is the closest on the market to what I want from a smartphone. Its different from everything else and it can do clever things....I can geekify it and go commandline on its a55 and those things which allow me into the workings, to make me feel really like owner of device, make me like it a hell of alot.

If you want point and shoot get an iPhone....:cool:

The N900 aint point and shoot.....its adjust...adjust....change....modify...ker-boom. Something amazing happens. Or not. Keeps you guessing. Its ace...and I'd very much like Nokia to keep making this kind of device.

I'm also sharing my experiences and opinions, and it's not for you to tell me what to do either--but it is ironic for you to have participated the way you did and so the question had to be asked. :)

By the by, I didn't bother wasting my money on the N900 after my experiences with Nokia products, including two N800's. So, no need to lecture me--I was smart enough to avoid the whole problem altogether, after seeing how Nokia provided me with my previous Maemo experiences.

I spend my time berating those who insist that because they don't have a problem, nobody else can. It's that myopic outlook and lack of insight that is just so fascinating. Please, continue your petty bickering over peoples' very tangible concerns, it's most amusing. It's possible you're right and I'd like to hear why. In the meantime, you should consider being open to the possibility that someone else is right, too. I mean, if the problems were so minor or rare, I doubt you would keep seeing this constant barrage of negativity... but please, go on and try to convince me that there's no problem.. just don't try to convince me that people complaining should shut up about it.

The widespread complaining is a symptom and should likely be considered instead of dismissed. The only problem with what you're suggesting is that it wouldn't lead to any progress or improvements, just a far more marginalized platform with fewer and fewer people using the platform.

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 816562)

why are you comparing 3 year old device and the newest devices from htc? is there a specific reason to be biased?

Because, even in its own time, this was an impossible task (obtaining support and parts/repairs/etc), three years out--it's STILL an impossible task even with the new device. :P Is there any specific reason NOT to be biased, given the results?

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 816388)

Come tell us here how complete the hardware is once you have the microUSB port in your hands :D

Well then you've ****ed it.

I've tripped over my cable whilst charging a few times now, bent the connector on the charger but that's it. Had i broken the connector I would have been well annoyed. At myself.

Yeah it could have been better engineered (although I've not heard many reports recently, so did it get changed in later revisions?) but where does it stop?

If i tripped over my laptop cable, I'd expect a broken screen, and have to re-solder the connector (a common fault on laptops)

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 816937)

you forgot the "if you live in canada" -part with that still -stuff, so you are still biased.

Heres my biased part: my little brother tried to get his htc hero repaired a month ago but he didn't have sn of the unit printed to paper (you can read it from device) and it was no go...

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 816937)

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Because, even in its own time, this was an impossible task (obtaining support and parts/repairs/etc),

Btw apropos repair:
I like this one:
http://www.swissmania.ch/category_10...satzteile.html

I hope that I will never use it. :)

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by Tedri Mark (Post 816940)

I've tripped over my cable whilst charging a few times now, bent the connector on the charger but that's it. Had i broken the connector I would have been well annoyed. At myself.

Yes, the circumstances under which it may happen may lead the user to blame themselves. However, it is a poor design choice, and various reports have proven it even occurred to people who have been very careful with their device. The cost of a through-hole design choice is neglectible though.

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If i tripped over my laptop cable, I'd expect a broken screen

I wouldn't because this happened various times with my ThinkPad. It fell, the case got some cracks, but it still works. And the connectors are intact. A friend of mine let his drop from 3rd floor. Thing still works (yes, he was lucky).

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and have to re-solder the connector (a common fault on laptops)

Not with my Macbook Pro.

Point is, none of what you say is due to poor design choice; its due to user mistake. I don't know about you, but I'm not used getting a microUSB port in my hands when I unplug my microUSB cable. I haven't found this feature in the microUSB specifications either.