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albertkarel 2007-07-18 20:50
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Just a followup. I have no problems at all with the 800 or 770.
They work just fine...if I am in somebody's tiny Wifi cloud. I'm sure not bashing the 800 or 770...I have had hundreds of enjoyable hours with them, especially on Internet Radio.

I AM bashing Nokia for not making the 800 a fabulous, always connected, beautiful-screen, highly capable superphone. With cell circuits (hopefully on a faster network than Cingular) the 800 phone IS directly comparable to the iPhone. That's the point. In fact, in a whole list of ways, it is BETTER and more capable than the iPhone. In fact, I would buy an 800 Superphone before I'd buy an iPhone any day of the week.

Shouldn't we all have an always-connected, high-speed 800?

I made the prior post because I don't want Nokia to sit smugly by, reading all the praise for this latest small improvement.

I want them to be the great, innovative Nokia that they have been, and should be. GIVE US an 800 with full telephone capability! It would leapfrog Treo, Blackberry, Moto, AND iphone. JUST DO IT!!!

Milhouse 2007-07-18 21:00
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara (Post 61133)
The N800 is best defined as a mobile phone companion to provide big screen Internet end terminal to compliment mobile data plan. As it is open for third party SW developers lots of other software have been written to it and the "Internet tablet" definition is becoming more blurry...
In addition, is it any surprise that the iPhone is locked down so tight? Third party software is verbotten, because the carriers are concerned about protecting their networks and network revenue.

As soon as Nokia add a phone to the Internet Tablets, they either ditch third party development or ditch carrier support along with carrier subsidies - one or the other, you can't have both. OpenMoko may be open but I doubt it will have wide spread carrier support.

I love the iPhone UI, I think it's great and I'm really glad to see it re-energising the somewhat staid mobile phone market but it isn't a competitor to the Internet Tablets. :)

Milhouse 2007-07-18 21:03
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by steffen800 (Post 61134)
so what (the hell) is this "i cant't see the switch browser engine option", "google maps (etc.) is NOT working with new browser (as is did even on opera)"?
both matches my situation and the people here are separeted into "works almost fine" and "oh no! switch back!! (if i only could!!!)" fractions.
is this realy caused by restoring my backup? wasn't this the recommended way by nokia? how else can i get back all my config stuff, if not by restoring? and why is this natural thing such a big mistake at all?
thanks steffen
Sorry it's not working for you, but may I suggest you reflash and stay away from software that is advertised as NOT being end-user ready in future?

peetmossfloss 2007-07-18 21:05
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjparker75 (Post 61124)
Okay, my lack of xterm knowledge is about to become very apparent. Once I get vi statement entered, and a list of items appears, how do I toggle the false to true? I tried entering text and it wouldn't let me. Do I need to be root, or am I missing something obvious?
Easy Peasy. To insert text in vi type i then make your edits. When you're done you can save and quit by hitting the escape thumb key, "the button on the top above the home and menu keys," then type :wq and hit return to write the file and quit vi.

Milhouse 2007-07-18 21:12
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by albertkarel (Post 61138)
Shouldn't we all have an always-connected, high-speed 800?
Mine already is always connected... via WiFi or Bluetooth (and my 3G/HSDPA mobile phone).

Consider this:

iPhone - staggered launches around the globe, individual negotiations with cellular operators who impose their requirements on the devices final functionality, software locked, individual country radio emissions compliance testing, works only on 2G EDGE

Internet Tablet - global launch (apart from most of Asia), no cellular operator interference, open source development, FCC testing is good enough for most countries, works with phones on all networks from 2G GSM through to 3.5G HSDPA.

Nokia had good reasons NOT to include a phone in the Internet Tablets, and I for one agree with their choice as I can choose my own mobile phone (which doesn't have to be a Nokia) and I also don't have to hold a brick to the side of my head (the N800 has a large screen and is therefore itself quite large!) when I want to make a phone call! :)

chilko 2007-07-18 21:14
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 61130)
I would propose to install LeafPad. Its much easier to use, like notepad ;)

Then in xterm type:
leafpad .browser

and voila..
great!
thanks

Milhouse 2007-07-18 21:16
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peetmossfloss (Post 61146)
Easy Peasy. To insert text in vi type i then make your edits. When you're done you can save and quit by hitting the escape thumb key, "the button on the top above the home and menu keys," then type :wq and hit return to write the file and quit vi.
Alternatively, try this:

Code:
cp .browser .browser.bak
cat .browser.bak | sed s/hidden=true/hidden=false/ > .browser

Karel Jansens 2007-07-18 21:49
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 61149)
Internet Tablet - global launch (apart from most of Asia)
Dude, that is so politically incorrect it slams political correctness right up the arse from behind.

I love it... :p

TA-t3 2007-07-19 11:28
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
All in all, the microb browser is a good move. For now though I find it too slow, sometimes there are long pauses etc. So I'm back to Opera, which is snappy in comparision. I switch to microb for those few places where microb works better (one of those is for some weird reason the web interface of my wireless router). Looking forward to upcoming versions, all hail the Nokia team!

jmk 2007-07-19 13:57
Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
MicroB is still beta. Crashes when zooming and i think it's little bit slower than Opera. But it's quick and easy to switch engines from menu. I still want Opera 9.

Hope they can fix speed problems and crashing. Release early, release often!


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