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tissot 2013-07-13 18:25

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1358688)
just wonder what nokia has on pipe on NWC 2013 a cameraphone runing sailfishos?

Phablet running WP8 GDR3, bringing 1080p screen and quad core. Camera with PureView or lytro type camera thanks to Pelican investments.
Sailfish Nokia phone wont happen before Nokia is on a solid ground. Investors at this point wont accept Nokia to start pouring money to something like Sailfish, Android might be a different story.

nicd 2013-07-14 10:10

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Hi all

It seems "obvious" to me there should be a DUAL SIM option with the other half.
1- Not everyone wants this, but it's great for people who want a phone for personal and business, so it makes sense to have it as a add-on feature. Plus.. you can always leave that half at home when on holiday !
2- Some markets can only be addressed if you have dual sim, and these are huge markets : INDIA, CHINA, and even if smartphones might be to some extent too expensive, Africa and the middle east.

To be great, this other half should be able to snap in a extra SIM card, maybe extra battery life and stay compact.

Some people have already manufactured ipod touch cases which include one or even two sims.

So it's really doable and there is a huge market for this (again, some businness men + big countries such as india and china)

Hope this message finds the right people !

mikecomputing 2013-07-14 10:34

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Dual sim you people have realise that this means even more connnectors on other half? I doubt you will see that coming.

joerg_rw 2013-07-14 13:10

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicd (Post 1358823)
Hi all

It seems "obvious" to me there should be a DUAL SIM option with the other half.
1- Not everyone wants this, but it's great for people who want a phone for personal and business, so it makes sense to have it as a add-on feature. Plus.. you can always leave that half at home when on holiday !
2- Some markets can only be addressed if you have dual sim, and these are huge markets : INDIA, CHINA, and even if smartphones might be to some extent too expensive, Africa and the middle east.

To be great, this other half should be able to snap in a extra SIM card, maybe extra battery life and stay compact.

Some people have already manufactured ipod touch cases which include one or even two sims.

So it's really doable and there is a huge market for this (again, some businness men + big countries such as india and china)

Hope this message finds the right people !

From an EE perspective I don't see how that can be done, at least without dedicated pins from cellmodem to OH, or with massive tweaks to the cmt firmware to talk to SIM via proxy on AP. [edit] AFAIK even Nokia discontinued their own cell modem branch, and I highly doubt Jolla has the manpower to develop and certify their own modem chip and FW, and they don't have the marketshare/volume to talk modem manufacturers into granting them access to cmt FW on a "do tweaks to it as you like" level.
Well, there's a SIM remote access thing that might or might not be supported by the modem Jolla used on their phone. If such thing is available, it could get exploited.

That's exactly the problem with this OH concept: you can't do everything via a "USB" 4 pin connector.

/j

youmeego 2013-07-14 15:50

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Jolla can save some cost and earn more money by removing the back camera, some people(like male teenagers serving national service in singapore) need that kind of non-camera smart phone in a certain workplace and army camp

Dave999 2013-07-14 15:56

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1358902)
Jolla can save some cost and earn more money by removing the back camera, some people(like male teenagers serving national service in singapore) need that kind of non-camera smart phone in a certain workplace and army camp

The camera is pretty bad so I'm sure its allowed ;)

qwazix 2013-07-14 19:23

It's probably already decided that the other half will be a kind of backcover but if it was my decision, I would really split the phone in half, and put the camera and battery in the back. This would allow more upgradeability and really different configurations for different usecases. Want a cheap slim phone? Buy it with a 5mpix shooter and a small battery. Want a camera; get the 12mp protruding back with tripod mount. Back cover may also hold extra emmc.

It has it's drawbacks that backcovers won't be cheap, so getting more of them just to change colors won't be easy, but we have cases for that

jalyst 2013-07-14 19:27

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
That makes so much sense it should be Tweeted directly to them...
Not that it really matters now, it's pretty clear it's going to be some kind of back-cover, but perhaps for the next ph it can be a consideration, if there is a next one.

joerg_rw 2013-07-14 20:09

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1358950)
[...]Back cover may also hold extra emmc.
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And EXTRA-BUTTONS, a lot of them. Operating a camera via touchscreen exclusively is a PITA
/j

qwazix 2013-07-14 20:35

Re: [Backcover] Jolla's "Other Half" - Ideas and Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1358961)
And EXTRA-BUTTONS, a lot of them. Operating a camera via touchscreen exclusively is a PITA
/j

yeah, THAT!


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