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KylliOrvokki 2015-04-24 09:51

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
There are big concurrent projects ongoing in Jolla and there for I don't think 100 persons is enough when comparing many other crowd funded campaigns

1. tablet hw integration
- in my mind they did not say anything about hw problems with the display but the quality of display was not good enough and they wanted better one -> hence delay because new proto and new production version needs / needed to be done
2. Sailfish 1.0 (maintenance)
3. Sailfish 2.0 development with new features
4. one sw branch to support both mobile and tablet (my quess is that they cannot deliver tablet before they can get stable 2.0 sw to both phone and tablet)
5. Jolla store
- to support Tablet apps
- hopefully support for paid apps? = please be priority!?
6. Get new Jolla-phone-hw
-their own or with some partner
7. what else?


I don't mind delay but ditch sailfish 1 monthly updates(it's stable enough - only fix critical stuff) and focus on bringing sexy (back) to Jolla with the rest of these.
I have confidence that you can do it! :)

vistaus 2015-04-24 10:42

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
7. Get the default Jolla apps optimized for tablet usage. I mean: they're taking the tablet very serious, esp. after even winning that award at MWC 2015 so I'm pretty sure they're not just gonna leave us hanging with stretched out phone apps.

Dave999 2015-04-27 10:20

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Woo-hoo..120 takers. We are so tricked :D thank you for your support. Please wait two month extra while we doing some things in secret without telling you.

What happen with our tablet? Noone knows and noone tells. Waiting for Jolla update but since they haven't provided anything yet it's safe to assume they don't know yet. Tricky situation.

At the same time this developer group is cool. I hope some great devs in Tmo are selected. Coderus, neil, Martin K and many others. If you are developing great apps for Jolla you should defenetly contact them and show your interest.

I also hope that the devs have the right to show, tell and provide info for the general population of jolla supporters.

ZogG 2015-04-27 10:24

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki (Post 1468323)
There are big concurrent projects ongoing in Jolla and there for I don't think 100 persons is enough when comparing many other crowd funded campaigns

1. tablet hw integration
- in my mind they did not say anything about hw problems with the display but the quality of display was not good enough and they wanted better one -> hence delay because new proto and new production version needs / needed to be done
2. Sailfish 1.0 (maintenance)
3. Sailfish 2.0 development with new features
4. one sw branch to support both mobile and tablet (my quess is that they cannot deliver tablet before they can get stable 2.0 sw to both phone and tablet)
5. Jolla store
- to support Tablet apps
- hopefully support for paid apps? = please be priority!?
6. Get new Jolla-phone-hw
-their own or with some partner
7. what else?


I don't mind delay but ditch sailfish 1 monthly updates(it's stable enough - only fix critical stuff) and focus on bringing sexy (back) to Jolla with the rest of these.
I have confidence that you can do it! :)

They should think of it before?

Dave999 2015-04-28 14:39

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1468611)
They should think of it before?

They probably needed the money and maybe didn't have the option to continue supporting a device without income.

ZogG 2015-04-28 17:39

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1468765)
They probably needed the money and maybe didn't have the option to continue supporting a device without income.

Would you agree that they know of it and even have more info, we do not have, as well they decide what dates to deliver and they can make a deal with HW companies ahead and to know what are timelines and how much time it takes to develop drivers/new features(sail2.0) and even can multiple that time before posting it?
They even are not in competition with other companies(let's be fair) so why to rush, just not to deliver on time.

Though again, I don't see much of the problem of delay if it's announced. My problem that they do not share details like to what HW they changed and that they trying to do everything at the same time with a lot of projects(updates, tablet, sail2, paid apps) and at the end they do not deliver any of those, instead of concentrating more on one of the aims and finishing at least something ;/

coderus 2015-04-28 17:55

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Or they just lost all money and just keeping posting "Shipping delayed" until find new sponsor/investment :D

ZogG 2015-04-28 18:16

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1468772)
Or they just lost all money and just keeping posting "Shipping delayed" until find new sponsor/investment :D

That's exactly the problem of misinformation. They could at least point out in general what's the problem and if it's really that one(i'm pretty sure it's not the problem here) i think they should tell people before it would be too late(sh*tstorm will see if it happens and they fail to deliver)

pycage 2015-04-28 18:30

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1468771)
and that they trying to do everything at the same time with a lot of projects(updates, tablet, sail2, paid apps) and at the end they do not deliver any of those, instead of concentrating more on one of the aims and finishing at least something ;/

So you want to say that the paid-apps-store guys should wait until the hardware guys have the drivers for tablet done, and the hardware guys should wait with their work until the software guys have their update done..?
I think efficient task management looks a little bit different to your suggestion. :)

ZogG 2015-04-28 19:16

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 1468776)
So you want to say that the paid-apps-store guys should wait until the hardware guys have the drivers for tablet done, and the hardware guys should wait with their work until the software guys have their update done..?
I think efficient task management looks a little bit different to your suggestion. :)

I'm saying that paid apps can be finished way before tablet. If you run after few rabbits at the same time you catch none


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