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atlochowski 2016-07-01 13:00

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1508771)
I'm sure you don't have any say on this or at least they give you a discount. Easy to justify any illegal download though.

We have the same in Poland. There is no discount because of this feature. In my case it's impossible to turn off, it's blocked on router.
But not everybody can use your bandwidth. Only people who has agreement with the same ISP.

ggabriel 2016-07-01 13:03

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atlochowski (Post 1508775)
We have the same in Poland. There is no discount because of this feature. In my case it's impossible to turn off, it's blocked on router.
But not everybody can use your bandwidth. Only people who has agreement with the same ISP.

Can't switch it off? Challenge accepted :P

badpixel 2016-07-01 13:47

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1508776)
Can't switch it off? Challenge accepted :P

You can use your own device. You will have better hw with full root access(in Orange/Neostrada boxes you have only limited acccess to configuration of it). And in case of terminating of contract prematurely, you have to pay so called "full price"(no discounted[at least two times than street unlocked version]]) for very shifty device.
Most of them is not easy hackable and requires soldering something on M/B.

pycage 2016-07-01 14:35

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
I begin to like the stock browser. Aurajoki made it really good actually. Just small fixes here and there, but it makes a great difference.

pichlo 2016-07-01 15:51

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Yes, like a working select & copy ;)

nthn 2016-07-01 16:58

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Each day that Messages cover annoys me just a little bit more. The white bars, the capitalised names, only showing one single message when in a conversation view, no distinguishing between your own messages and your contact's (I think this was already the case before but it's so much more visible now)... I'd appreciate if the person behind this redesign and everyone who gave a thumbs up to let it pass would leave a comment here so we can all point and laugh.

Zeta 2016-07-01 18:35

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1508776)
Can't switch it off? Challenge accepted :P

Looks like it depends on the provider. If I remember correctly, on SFR and Bouygues in France, you can access others only if you enable it on your box.
So you accept that someone can borrow you a bit of bandwidth (it is low priority compared to normal local network), in exchange of someone lending you some bandwidth when you're on the move.

Not used it in a while, so could be wrong on some details though.

Zeta 2016-07-01 18:56

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1508795)
Each day that Messages cover annoys me just a little bit more.

Covers in general are a pain.
They are too small to provide enough text, yet Jolla tried to fit messages in it...

At the same time it is redondant with the events view, where text fits correctly.
The only thing that would make sense is some high level info, like number of unread messages, anything else will be too big to be displayed correctly.

It applies for both messages and mails, and a bit for notes too.
The mail cover is strange too : if you leave the app while reading a mail, the title of the mail is shown in the cover, and the refresh button is hidden. So at this point you have about no useful information shown in the cover (number of messages and last update was more useful than the mail title...), and you can't even use the cover action, you need to get in the app, go back to its start, then can use action again.

When the OOM is trigged, and the mail app is killed, its cover is still shown, but with outdated information (like refreshed 2 minutes ago, when there are 2 hours it didn't), and not an overlay strong enough to see it crashed.


At this point, I don't understand the usefulness of active covers. Symbian's like widgets size were adapted to the contents, so were useful (like 3 buttons if needed for media player, or all the screen width to show some text). On the other side, Harmattan's app cover list was great to switch applications.
Here we have a bit of both, but not working great. Covers have small action buttons that we must avoid when switching apps, and are too small to provide as much info or actions as widgets...


Overall, I find Sailfish 2.0 less usable than the venerable Sailfish 1.0. There are a lot of improvements, where things were missing previously, but experience-wise I don't understand these last moves (app drawer replacing event view, cover buttons in place of cover swipes, cover contents, keeping covers when app is killed, ...)

juiceme 2016-07-01 19:40

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1508785)
Yes, like a working select & copy ;)

What, really? No sarcasm there?
If so then it is good news indeed.

Could you please tar your /usr/share/sailfish-browser/ and post it somewhere? I'd like to see if I can patch that to Taalojärvi...

peterleinchen 2016-07-01 19:50

Re: SailfishOS 2.0.2.390 -> 2.0.2.43 -> 2.0.2.45 Aurajoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1508804)
What, really? No sarcasm there?
If so then it is good news indeed.

juiceme, did you not see the smiley?
I am pretty sure it is still not there!

Besides a working text selection ( and cursors )?


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