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You can never be too carful nowdays. If someone waving a yellow flag it’s our goal to find out if there is something fishy with that leak, the image or the device visible.

Is this the real device or not is an important question.

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The roundings of the corners match up, looks real enough to me.

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I hope you are correct. It just looks to me like the bottom edge of the phone did not line up properly. Maybe it is just the angle the picture was taken so the perspective is doing tricks on me. Would be nice if there were pics at other angles. I'm not trying to stir things up. That's why I was thinking it was a mock up to show concept. Keyboard looks real nice!

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only thing that convinces me is video of "subject device"
functioning, and an extensive proper review of quality and functionality by an impartial entity.

Then I believe

Otherwise...
regardless whatever the endeavour ...
it is all speculative and potential flim - flammery...
until unquestionably verified.

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Is that dirt at the bottom crack of the keyboard or light leaking out?

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its the light of the trapped developer souls ...
That is ...of course...what it is powered on...
Trapped developer souls ...

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ORLY? (only used that on N900 to trick some tele junkies :D)

I would prefer FMTX (/RX)!
But will be okay with both. :)

Oh and it would be nice to have a shaver, too. :rolleyes:

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Sadly by looking closer on the leaked photo it looks like the keys are strongly curved. This might look very nice optically but has a bad impact on fast typing. I am already thinking about modding the phone to give it flat keys...
The curved keys can be seen very clearly directly at the photo at the main page https://www.fxtec.com/.

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Have you ever typed on a N900 with its curved keys?

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I do not understand these negative messages...

We are shortly getting a keyboard phone and I just read crying and complaining...

What a F?ck???

Shame on all of You!!!

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I actually have used the fmtx more than a few times. The IrDA, not so much. It lack power to transmit far and was one way (right?).

Looking forward to more images and hopefully video soon.

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I haven't been hyped so much for a new device in years!

FMTX/RX and IRDA would be nice but I can live without them.

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I was going to mention the N900 too. The curved keys of the N900 had a really nice feedback, allowed fast typing, and the shape helped navigating with the fingers on the keyboard blindly. I am quite happy that the keys are curved on the Livermorium, though flat keys shouldn't be an issue either on a keyboard larger than that of the N900.

On a different topic, I seem to remember that RGB LED had been confirmed, but I am not sure anymore and cannot find the information anymore. Did I dream it? I like FMTX/RX and IRDA (which I'm 99% sure will not happen), but RGB LED for notifications really is a life changer for daily use.

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We're all friends here, relax

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I would have really lost it with this thread and all the rubbish being talked, but I know everyone is just excited and impatient to get their hands on a new hw keyboard device...
(OK except maybe Dave999)

But if you think this wait is bad, just imagine what it will be like when it arrives, and everyone who isn't a hardcore programmer, after 5 mins ecstasy, has to put it back in its box, put it in a drawer, and wait until someone comes up with a workable OS to replace the horror that is android. :eek:

;)

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I hope Foxtel doesn't sue Fxtec for resemblance. Foxtec...
And I hope for a silver edition, myself, especially since phone is made of metal - should be nice.
Will keyboard backlight be single-color or RGB? Either way, good light-spreader would be nice - don't want light leaking this way and that.
And I still prefer resistive touch-screen over capacitive, but that's what Neo900 is for. Fxtec N990 is successor to N950.

Thank you. Best wishes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per aspera ad astra...

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see, that's the problem. We don't need workable OS, we need OS on wich work can be done. And sadly, ATM none of those "workable" ones shine at that.

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Well probably the 2 most useable one are sailfish and probably ubports. Everything thing else (non android) is in alpha state as far as I know.

I would most likely use sailfish. Or dual boot sailfish Maemo Leste :D

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The question is; will Maemo Leste really work on a Qualcomm SoC?

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Might work better than the shitfest that is called MediaTek.

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Yeah Android is terrible. That's why it's the default is for all major smartphone manufacturers and the overwhelming majority os around the world

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This is the bit that's bothering me. I've had a Gemini for about 6 months, and the SFOS is still unusable (wifi bug, bluetooth problems). That's not intended as a criticism, I understand the practicalites of the situation, it's just how it is.

It won't stop me buying and supporting Fx, but I really hope there's enough interest, momentum and support to get SFOS up and running without too many issues quickly.

In all honesty, I might prefer Maemo Leste - I pulled out my N900 last night for a play and I'd forgotten how much I liked it. But from what I read, it's not ready for the big time yet on any hardware at all is it?

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Well, that's also the problems I see with the Fx(whatever). I will not buy it, if there is no proper OS on it. And for me stock android is definitely not a proper OS. So for me it's like that:

Fx with only stock android -> I will not buy
Fx with Lineage or similiar OS -> I will maybe buy
Fx with Sailfish, Maemo leste, UBports or plasma mobile -> I will definitely buy!

....but only if most things work. A little bit buggy at the beginning is no problem for me. But I'm not willing to buy it just as a toy

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I'd say it only proves that it is not necessary to be technically advanced, have features or be useful to gain traction.
All it takes is getting the huge installed base at some point and it will continue to be popular forever.

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This is how the market leads us to shiny toys with no useful functionality. If there's little evidence of a market for such devices, then nobody is going to finance creating them. Creating custom hardware for a low volume market is an expensive business, software for the same probably even more so.

Based on what I see up to now, I would/will roll the dice and buy at the outset because decent initial sales improves the odds that :-

(a) Enough effort is put in from both sides to get a desirable OS up to a decent standard, and

(b) When the alternative OS reaches that point, it'll still be possible to buy a new device to put it on.

(c) Chen will be encouraged enough to carry on and create an even better device next time round!

I'm sure everyone has things they don't like about SFOS and Jolla, but I'm pretty certain there wouldn't be SFOS on the X if no-one had bought the unknown quantity of the Jolla 1. Yes there's gripes and missed promises, but I'd still rather SFOS 3 than any of the current alternatives I've seen.

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Not sure, but it would seem that what ever SoC used needs to support mainline. I thought I remember Chen saying it may ... not sure.

Currently from maemo L, https://leste.maemo.org/Category:Device

basically if it can run Debian it should run maemo L, from my understanding.

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Yeah, I need to set up a vm and see if I can get all my needed apps and setting in sailfish. Sadly there is no seamless OS as of now.

I'm happy with maemo mostly, but it will have growing pains with a large screen. With out gestures there's only one way without the keyboard to jump to multitasking and apps window. It was never designed for large HiRes mobile screens.

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Interesting, ubports is more popular than sailfish on Fairphone forum poll.

https://forum.fairphone.com/t/poll-w...or-later/44519

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ubports ain't bad...
It has come a long way very rapidly...
Takes some getting used to ...but doesn't everything?

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I confess I didn't know that ubports was even a thing. I had the original UT phone and I have to say I didn't like it. The hardware was decent, and the core apps were OK, but I never really got on with the UI for all sorts of reasons.

I'm sure it will have moved on a ways from those days though, and I certainly wouldn't reject it as an option without taking another good look at it.

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Even stranger is that "/e/", which i had heard of briefly but written off completely, is higher up the results. Not sure if I trust the poll or not!

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Not sure I trust Sailfish. First thing is the Russian take-over and seconly its the lack of information regading refund.

I will rather go with android for now. Atleast it has some good usecases.

But I do hope some other cool OS will pop-up to this device.

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Yeah, only found that recently. But not my cup of tea. It another android security focus fork. Not going android anything ... well possible an app ... maybe if Im desperate ...lol

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Well yeah that is a thing. But I still trust them more than android or google derived os. But lets not forget nemo is close to maemo 6 and has started more development recently.

Nemo really dropped the ball since they could of had a complete working open os by now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-J-9eXxY0

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However interested I am in Nemo, I'm sorry, but I can't see anything else than the N950 in this video. Maybe this is because my eyes are wet at the sight of it. I can't believe they designed a working, modern HWKB to the point that units were actually manufcatured and working, without making it a commercial product. The most difficult was done.

Damn it, this device was the ultimate achievement of mankind, together with Voyager and similar probes. Except for the lack of resistive + stylus, but Voyager is not perfect either.

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Found this interesting, https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yOxrkZvdw...255B1%255D.png

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In addition to what juiceme wrote, you should know that Android was at one point completely free for anyone to use on their devices. It was horrible and barely functional, but this quickly made manufacturers decide to focus on the hardware and let most of the software be handled by others. If it had a touchscreen and could make phone calls, they could pass it off as one of those new and cool smartphones. Not too long after, the amount of devices running Android had reached a critical mass, and Google has ever since done everything in its power to make it virtually impossible for any manufacturer to even consider moving away from Android. (Read here for more information.)

None of this means that Android is any good. It does what people have been conditioned to expect it to do.

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Some more pornography for you guys

https://twitter.com/chenliangchen/st...588726784?s=20

Do you think Chen will release at MWC? He said we will see more very shortly
Last time he said shortly it took 3 weeks, if everything is relative. Wait is painful when we're this close

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What do I look at?

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ReadyFx outer cases before painting.