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kopte3 2009-10-22 22:41

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Please stop posting quotes and dates until 1. November, because we already know that we are not goint to get our N900s this month.
Btw, i agree that Nokia failed in organization because of inconsistent info and no official statements (when needed).
But having Peter here is a huge step forward.

fnordianslip 2009-10-22 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 355951)
Why does the world hate Canada? We're so nice to all of you.

I blame South Park mostly ;) although your nation should be thanked for the creation of the awesome programme, Trailer Park Boys, which is possibly the funniest think I've seen this century :D

skalogre 2009-10-22 23:15

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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 355971)
A 1ghz turd is still a turd.

:p


Albeit a faster turd. So there :D

Anyway, we know that it won't be here today or tomorrow so we can give all that speculation a rest.

P.s. thanks to Peter for clarifying the dates.

pardal 2009-10-22 23:19

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WTF, I don't understand you people... This has happened with the N95, with the E90 and with the N97... At least this are the ones I remember... Well with the N97 it was worse because they release it and it wasn't ready for the market... And even with E90 they delayed it and until the first firmware upgrade it was bad at the new great things that it brought (GPS, Browser). Hope that the N900 comes with a solid (it will have bugs) software.

kopte3 2009-10-22 23:25

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So Eldar was right.

arachnist 2009-10-23 00:43

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Originally Posted by vdx29 (Post 355955)
IAlso, any rumour from HTC about an impending 1GHz android device will make me cancel my preorder faster than you can say maemo.

I have a 1.2GHz armv5tejl device that's working as my router/NAS. It's very capable i/o-wise, but as for general computing it's not that impressive.
With ARM, the clock doesn't matter as much as the supported instruction set.

spinnukur 2009-10-23 06:19

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I say we find the 300 people who got the N900's at the summit and strong arm them into giving the devices up.

HangLoose 2009-10-23 06:20

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Originally Posted by kopte3 (Post 355996)
So Eldar was right.

uhauhauahuha :P

eikido 2009-10-23 08:17

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Now, i'd love to know who here believes the N900 will come in novemeber?

Just imagine! Nokia just started a new beta testing round.

Phone gets handed out (21 oct?)->Users testing it for a couple of days (say 10 days?)->Nokia corrects these problems (10 Days?)->Start manufacturing process (x days?)

I just did a best case scenario too?:)

I say late decemeber. Oh dear:p

Eikido

sharper 2009-10-23 08:28

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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 356207)
Now, i'd love to know who here believes the N900 will come in novemeber?

I think it's 100% certain unless they find a bug along the lines of "Pressing Answer Call Sprays Battery Acid in User's Eyes".

If they'd been originally planning a November release they probably wouldn't have delayed it to deal with the user feedback but having an October one gave them some room to delay a few weeks and still get it out in Q4 2009. A delay to Q1 2010 would be a "big deal" and would need some pretty serious defects to justify.

Personally I consider it a good sign and it shows the N900 and Maemo is a big concern for Nokia. If they didn't care one way or the other they'd have shipped it and worried about dealing with feedback later. They obviously want people's first impressions to be positive and to use that intertia to justify more Maemo devices and probably more variations of the N900 platform.

Jack6428 2009-10-23 08:30

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Hey, I just recieved awesome news from Nokia!!! The Czech keyboard will be QWERTZ (4 arrows) and with localization aswell !!! Awesome!!

mak 2009-10-23 08:38

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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 356207)
Now, i'd love to know who here believes the N900 will come in novemeber?

those people who believed in a release in october

can't understand all this "nokia takes care" **** in this forum.
we didn't get any information from nokia itself.
it's just a month more (or 2 or 3) so they don't need to inform there costumers?

even every little online shop sends a mail if one product is not available for a long time.

ossipena 2009-10-23 08:49

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Originally Posted by mak (Post 356219)
...
so they don't need to inform there costumers?

intentional or not, this was good :D

sharper 2009-10-23 08:50

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Originally Posted by mak (Post 356219)
it's just a month more (or 2 or 3) so they don't need to inform there costumers?

Nokia is still very much oriented towards treating carriers as its customers, not end consumers. This is something I've complained about plenty and something they need to start changing quickly if they want to compete.

mak 2009-10-23 08:54

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 356227)
intentional or not, this was good :D

customer :rolleyes:

vkv.raju 2009-10-23 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eikido (Post 356207)
Phone gets handed out (21 oct?)->Users testing it for a couple of days (say 10 days?)->Nokia corrects these problems (10 Days?)->Start manufacturing process (x days?)

Eikido

Why manufacturing delay? Aren't the devices already on the manufacturing line. They only need to reflash them with the latest OS.

vkv.raju 2009-10-23 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 356214)
Hey, I just recieved awesome news from Nokia!!! The Czech keyboard will be QWERTZ (4 arrows) and with localization aswell !!! Awesome!!

Well played. Have fun!! :D :D

joedumper 2009-10-23 10:45

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We just got news here in Ireland that Vodafone IRL will be selling / supporting the N900 :)

Though they had no details on when or for how much.... but it's a step in the right direction

Alex Atkin UK 2009-10-23 11:53

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Originally Posted by vdx29 (Post 355955)
I'm actually on the opposite side of things. I'm GLAD the N900 has been delayed. I was iffy on it anyway. Only preordered it on an impulse because I got a sweet deal when the promo codes were working.

This delay gives me more time to think it through. My N95 is still going ok but I want an upgrade. The Droid might turn out to be a better deal. Also, any rumour from HTC about an impending 1GHz android device will make me cancel my preorder faster than you can say maemo.


*runs and hides behind couch after blasphemy*

But the 1Ghz chips are Qualcomm!

Never again will I trust their chips. My Xperia X1 was 528Mhz, does that mean the N900 will be only very slightly faster? Nope! Because its like comparing a PIII 1Ghz to a P4 1Ghz to a Core 2 Solo 1Ghz, they are very different beasts performance wise despite the same technical speed.

The reason Qualcomm are pushing 1Ghz chips is because their previous generation (as in the Xperia X1) were very poor performers so they need more Mhz to compare to OMAP chips. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a 1Ghz Qualcomm is still slower than the N900.

NOKIAFAN 2009-10-23 12:14

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N97 mini is released before n900! I thought somebody here had spoken with a nokia rep and said that it won't come out soon maybe dec/jan. I Don't trust nokia reps anymore.

range 2009-10-23 12:24

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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 356207)
Just imagine! Nokia just started a new beta testing round.

Phone gets handed out (21 oct?)

Hmm? Who got phones on October 21st? I think you are mixing some things up here.

RevdKathy 2009-10-23 12:51

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Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 356276)
Why manufacturing delay? Aren't the devices already on the manufacturing line. They only need to reflash them with the latest OS.


The key word in this being 'only'.

First Nokia have to decide what exactly they are going to change/update for the final firmware, then write their changes, then check/test the final firmware, then flash it to the production units before they all get boxed/sealed/despatched. Then there's the carriage time to the suppliers, and finally a release date. The hardware is almost certainly ready to roll.

eikido 2009-10-23 13:08

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range:

Talking about beta testers who got their phones

eikido 2009-10-23 13:40

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Did you guys notice how much much lower the activity is on these threads after Peters announcement?:)

Creepy :D

Eikido

Camahueto 2009-10-23 14:27

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Is there any NAM version (using the 850 MHz / 1900 MHz 3g band) of the Nokia N900 expected? if there is one When will be star shipping?

I ask because in my country (Chile) those are the 3g bands used by the mobile telephone companies. The band used in the current version of the N900 (1700 MHz) is expected to be allocated, but the process is just beginning with the companies operating just in the latter 2010.

(http://translate.google.com/translat...-nokia-n900%2F Google translate of the answer by the Undersecretary of Telecommunications of Chile, comment # 12).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 355093)
In reference to your questions on the expected shipment date of the Nokia N900, let me tell you the latest information from Nokia:

The Nokia N900 is a great example of what we and the open source community have been able to achieve with Maemo software. We are working closely with open source developers and for example, at the Maemo Summit in October, we loaned 300 pre-production units to get more feedback from the community. This feedback is extremely important to us and as such we also want to provide the best user experience with the Nokia N900.

We expect it to start shipping during November 2009.

Peter Schneider
Head of Maemo Marketing
Nokia Corporation


pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-10-23 15:58

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So has Nokia got like thosands of N900 sat on pallets waiting for the final firmware, And a week before they realease it for 3rd or 4th date change they say they have delayed it, ... just perplexes me!!

Most linux distro's for the pc are not final they are always tweaking them, Also Nokia do use the consumers has beta testers all the time, just look at the N96 to start with and now the problems with the N97..

Now i'm a massive fan of nokia, But i just wish they wud just stick to a date and release the bloody thing, it not like they can't update firmware once we got it does it!!!

zico 2009-10-23 16:11

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Originally Posted by pr0xyfl00d3r (Post 356564)
So has Nokia got like thosands of N900 sat on pallets waiting for the final firmware, And a week before they realease it for 3rd or 4th date change they say they have delayed it, ... just perplexes me!!

Most linux distro's for the pc are not final they are always tweaking them, Also Nokia do use the consumers has beta testers all the time, just look at the N96 to start with and now the problems with the N97..

Now i'm a massive fan of nokia, But i just wish they wud just stick to a date and release the bloody thing, it not like they can't update firmware once we got it does it!!!

I know what you mean. But the thing is, we developers and engineers, we would understand if such thing would have happened (the release of a buggy N900). Because we know that a firmware is on the way. And we can get started on developing apps and etc.

But if Nokia does so and release a buggy phone, then you would have the media going "Nokias new piece of crap", reviews would be bad, and the phone makes a bad first impression and then you can figure out the rest. And not to forget about the iPhonetalibans.

So actually, in my opinion, Nokia and the Maemo team should take all the time they need to release a fully working bug-free firmware, so for example those iphonetalibans could shut their mouths with their absurd arguments for a piece of crap, iDont.

pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-10-23 16:29

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Originally Posted by zico (Post 356577)
I know what you mean. But the thing is, we developers and engineers, we would understand if such thing would have happened (the release of a buggy N900). Because we know that a firmware is on the way. And we can get started on developing apps and etc.

But if Nokia does so and release a buggy phone, then you would have the media going "Nokias new piece of crap", reviews would be bad, and the phone makes a bad first impression and then you can figure out the rest. And not to forget about the iPhonetalibans.

So actually, in my opinion, Nokia and the Maemo team should take all the time they need to release a fully working bug-free firmware, so for example those iphonetalibans could shut their mouths with their absurd arguments for a piece of crap, iDont.

i agree with u! but they can feel free to send me the phone now i do not mind at all :-)

kevink 2009-10-23 16:31

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Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 355675)
Does your Momma know you turned out to be this big a Troll!

How am I a "troll"? I posted when I ordered, and I posted when the dithering and delays became too stupid for me to wait. That would have been it - hardly "trolling" - had one person not accused me of "whining" or you hadn't made your comment.

You guys just oppose dissenting opinion or something? Grow up.

DaKing 2009-10-23 16:33

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is it possible that the phone will be released before like 12 november since i have a travel at 14 november till late december thanks :)

kevink 2009-10-23 16:33

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 355696)
Thanks for registering to post that! Bye now!

Hey dummy, have someone help you search on my name and look at my post from September 30.

eikido 2009-10-23 17:12

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i wouldn't count on that daking. I believe it's december thats the release date.

les_garten 2009-10-23 17:14

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Originally Posted by DaKing (Post 356604)
is it possible that the phone will be released before like 12 november since i have a travel at 14 november till late december thanks :)

It's possible it was released last year in an alternate Universe...

les_garten 2009-10-23 17:16

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Originally Posted by kevink (Post 356605)
hey dummy, have someone help you search on my name and look at my post from september 30.

Troll!

Troll!

les_garten 2009-10-23 17:20

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EDIT because quoted post disappeared

hypnotik 2009-10-23 17:24

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Yeah, I just cancelled the NokiaUSA order... at this point I'm kind of apathetic about the entire thing so I plan to forget about this phone so if my newegg preorder ships in January 2010 I'll be (hopefully) pleasantly surprised when it shows up.

jjenkins334 2009-10-23 17:34

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Is this starting to remind anyone else of the Garmin Nuvifone debacle, with repeated delays in releasing the product?:(

wrb 2009-10-23 17:44

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i'll admit I haven't ready all the millions of posts on the shipping delay, but all the ones I've read talk about firmware changes, os tweaks, whatever you want to call them.

I'm assuming the tech specs aren't getting changed, but do you think that nokia would take the feedback to improve tech specs and not just software bugs?

just a thought...

spinnukur 2009-10-23 17:46

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****, this Linux phone will probably be out before the N900.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/1...e-linux-based/

mak 2009-10-23 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spinnukur (Post 356680)
****, this Linux phone will probably be out before the N900.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/1...e-linux-based/

:cool:
wake up nokia


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