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@rebhana
I can't get norwegian layout in lxde. When I set "setxkbmap no"
I still get english layout.
Thats not a big problem for me, but I don't understand why it shouldn't work.....

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In /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51, if that file is actually used, there is no xkb_symbols "no", but there is "dano" and "nordic".

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I've installed and tested it, and it indeed killed xmaxima running in the background when doing closechroot.

While testing it, I had an issue that I've encountered sporadically before: with LXDE running, hitting the power button brings up the menu, but then touching either outside or inside the menu nothing happens. The only thing that I can then do is long-press the power button and thus reboot. Going through the same steps again, I couldn't repeat it. I haven't seen this behavior with the initial release of Easy Debian to Extras, but since this problem happens rather rarely for me, that may not mean much. Anyone else having experienced that?

EDIT: Involuntarily I did more testing of the new closechroot and I found that I get the same error people were reporting previously, namely that USB mass storage does not work before rebooting. Actually, it was the first time that I was using USB at all because my WLAN connection was so bad today when I wanted to transfer a big file from my PC to the N900.:rolleyes:

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but after the upload i need to launch (to start) again debian image in?

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Thanks qole for the ED (Easy Debian). I have manage to install CUPS. At one time I was able to see the network printers by lpstat -a command. The next time I did it (after logging out) I get a message "no file destination" What is going on?

I might add that I was able to install SAMBA by chroot and everything installed fine. I just do not know how to use it yet. Inside ED. Any suggestions on this ?

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@rebhana
I tried both dano and nordic, but no difference....


If you wan't a correct df output you can run this as root on meamo after running debbie (so that debbie is mounted):

cat /etc/mtab|grep .debian|sed s/.debian//|sed s/\\/\\//\\// >/.debian/etc/mtab



When I did a new synchroot my keyboard worked with xkbset dano, but I also have the same up and down problem.......

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If you've installed the full cups system as opposed to just cups-client you need to restart the cups server when starting chroot anew. See http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian for how to automate that.

EDIT: I've added some information to http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian regarding how to configure cups-client in the absence of a full cups installation.

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rebhana: so you are saying that even after closing Easy Debian with the new closechroot, you can't access the MyDocs partition via USB?

I'll need some output. Like "df -h"

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@qole
I get an errormessage when running /usr/bin/xe/usr/bin/xephwm5: "line 12: trl: command not foundphwm5"

This is line 12:
zenity --display=:0 --info --text="Welcome to Easy Debian LXDE. This window is needed to gain keyboard focus in LXDE. Click OK." &trl -l

What is the trl command supposed to do?

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I am also having problems with USB mount.

I was testing your last version yesterday, with image on sd card.

I have just tried to connect the phone to windows pc and it says memories in use storage card. I have connected with winSCP and /media/mmc1 is empty. df output below

Just realised MyDocs is not accessable either!

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I also have found that there is a loop0 prosess running sometimes but the .debbie is not mounted. When this prosess is running its not possible to mount the usb-disk.
If I start debbie again and then run closechroot everyhing is ok again.

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Ok I have tried start debian and I get "EZ Chroot error" file specified is missing or not an image.

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@fred1
What message do you get if you run closechroot from console?
On the df command you have debbie mounted.

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Nokia-N900-02-8:~# closechroot
Nothing to do; chroot not mounted!

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@fred123

Try mount Mydocs. Looks like Mydocs isn't mounted

mount /home/user/MyDocs

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to those having problems with USB and loop0, I need you to be sure that you're using Easy Chroot 0.2.6-2fremantle1.

If you are, please try to reproduce the problem. Reboot, run your Easy Debian apps, open a terminal and run "sudo closechroot" and copy the output into a post for me, then hook up the USB. Send me the output only if the USB doesn't work.

I'll probably have to release a new version of Easy Chroot with more diagnostic messages.

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Easy Chroot 0.2.6-2fremantle1

ran iceweasle then

mmc1 is mounted with USB, MyDocs did not.

retried usb mount a couple of times with no MyDocs, then it suddenly mounted!

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Yes, I was saying that, but I tried to reproduce that now and failed. I was somewhat in a hurry when I couldn't mount by USB. I think I quickly checked for a mounted /.debian with df, didn't see it, and rebooted, was able to mount, and quickly reported back to you. But since I can't reproduce that now, I'm not sure any longer. Sorry... :o

EDIT: Seeing that others do have occasional difficulties with USB mounts in the newest version, I don't feel so foolish now...

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Argh, this is frustrating; a ghost in the machine...

Well keep reporting, folks...

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I did all what the tutorial say but I get the "no destinations added" message. What to do?

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Hi qole,

First, I'd like to say thanks for the great scripts and package. Second, I have a question.

I really like having a full Debian install on my N900, but I prefer to run stable versions only. In this case lenny. I also realized I do not like to mount Vhome from the N900 because I want to keep "dot" files to each system separate and clean. I figured out how to prevent /home/user from mounting by changing the qchroot script. My question for you is how would I go about creating my own 'lenny/stable' image? Do you have the steps documented or can point to the steps you take? I want to continue to use your easy-chroot scripts but use my own debian install.

Thanks!

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I would recommend buying a microSD and partitioning and formatting it, then setting up your custom Debian install there. You could either start from my lenny rootfs or use debootstrap.

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Have you looked at:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43621

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I think there still is some problems with keyboard mapping inside lxde.
Before I did the synchroot I couldn't write numbers and special characters in lxde.
When I pushed the "shift"-key it was registered as enter.
The same problem do I have with the qt-application qtnx. I only get english keyboard and when touching the "shift"-key it detects as an enter.

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Thanks! I read about debootstrap. It looks handy for the future. For now, I think I will start with your base lenny rootfs. Thanks again!

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Hi all!

I have had various complaints that people from different parts of the world are having problems downloading the image file from my server.

The next version of Easy Debian will have the capability to download from mirrors.

I would appreciate offers to host the Easy Debian image files. If you (or someone you know) is willing to host a copy of the Easy Debian image files, please put a copy of

http://qole.org/files/debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma

on your server and send me the link of the file on your server (available via wget) via a PM.

I will release a new version of Easy Debian with all of the mirrors included, and we can test the mirror capabilities.

When the Easy Debian package and the v3 image are ready for Extras-testing, I'll ask the mirrors to put the new image up.

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Just a report here. I managed to install SAMBA and GADMINTOOLS without any error. I also installed SYSTEM-CONFIG-PRINTER which made me see the printers in the network and configured via a GUI.

I still need to learn more about the tools and SAMBA. If anyone has any tips and tricks to make my life easier just let me know here.

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I just discovered that I have Thunderbird 3 installed in the latest image. It is called "icedove" in Debian. Try it out and see if you can wrangle the UI into a usable state (it is really cramped right now, like a Tokyo train), and I'll include your config in the next Easy Debian version.

(Posted here too)

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Well, Mandor now holds the record for the longest decompression time reported! Ten minutes short of TWO FULL HOURS.

Sigh. I hate filing bugs.

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<br>Since someone suggested it was a tracker problem why don't we try to download the lzma file in a hidden directory and decompress it there?<br>

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As somebody reported earlier, the device was unresponsive for the 2 hours. I had a few applications running at the same time. There has been a lot of swapping involve during the process which may partially explain the result.

It might not a bad idea to re-run the decompression.

Edit: wording

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Does anybody uses a bluetooth mouse with easydebian on N900 ?

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Just a noob question:
I have installed easy debian about a month ago. Now there have been a few updates, how do I install the new image? I started the debian image installer, and the version it is downloading is
debian-m5-v2.img.ext2.bz2
But isnt there a debian-m5-v3b already? (I want to have Thunderbird ^^)

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you'll have to do it manually.
first, get the image file:


extract it using
close the debian chroot, then edit the file "/home/user/.chroot" so the parameter "IMGFILE" points to the new image:

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The new version of Easy Debian with Evince icon, new Debian HW Keys & Closechroot icons and new image installer that supports mirrors and multiple images (all dynamically updated from my server) is coming this weekend!

Should I also make a Thunderbird icon for the Maemo menu? I don't want to totally swamp the user's menu...

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Yes please, adding Thunderbird to the Hildon Menu would be great. I've already adapted some icons for Iceweasel. Icedove and Icebear. Will upload them tomorrow when i get back home

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Icebear? You mean Iceape?

I was thinking of getting the "real" Thunderbird icon, even though it is Icedove, because most people don't know and don't care about the politics behind the Debian-Mozilla feud.

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Hello i have 2 quick questions about Open Office and Xournal.

firstly let me just say WOW, AMAZING!!! thanks so much for getting this awesomeness onto my n900, I will always love you for it!

OK question 1. In Xournal, is there any way to make it so that when I type text in a text box, the text box isn't black? So I can actually see what I am typing?

2. In open office, I opened up Styles and Formatting on a spread sheet, and now it is stuck on that screen...like permanently, even if I restart the phone :S Any shortcut or secret way to get out of it?

Sorry if these are known issues, or if this question has been asked before...


(Bonus questions: I don't NEED to know the answer to these, but feel free to answer if you like sharing knowledge!:

a] is there a good list somewhere that lists all of the debian programs? and what the features are? and how to use them?
b] one i have installed a feature, and an updated version of it comes out, how do I know, and how do I update it?
c] one i have installed everything I want, is there any way to reduce the sheer bulk of the debian system? At the moment all I use is Xournal and Open Office. It seems not worth it to have 2.5+gb just for that haha!

If you could simply point me to the right place to answer any of these questions myself, that would be just as good)


THANKS so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh really? Please look for the the orange button on qole.org then. ;)

Answered above. Go into LXDE and start OpenOffice there. You can then close Styles and Formatting.

packages.debian.org has a great search engine and lots of information about the packages available.

Maybe someone else can answer your other questions, or you can use the "search thread" feature.