Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

So numbers 1 through 9 work correctly?

I personally have yet to find a game that requires the directional keys. You're talking about the up, down, left and right buttons on a standard keyboard, correct?

Just to be sure on this, you're having problems with the four buttons that have a circle to them in either the Rightdosbox2 or Leftdosbox2 xkbd keyboard?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

yep. as well as the directional keys on the upper left on the face of my n800.

and yes, number keys on xkbd 1-9 work fine... I did try the NL key, figuring it was numlock, and it doesn't allow the keypad to move the avatar. Plus, I'd just prefer my hardware directional keys to work.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay. Give me a few minutes and I'll look into it.

What game are you using again so I can test this?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

ultima iv (the upgraded edition from the rubybox download feature)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay. I'll post back in a little bit. :)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Let me throw in one suggestion.....run XTerm and from the command line type in rbox to run RubyBox. Now see if the directional key works in the games.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Think I might have even a better suggestion than Pushwall's.

Okay.

Press the hardware "Home" key on the tablet during your game.

This should pull up a Dosbox tab thingie on the left side.

Next, tap the stylus anywhere on the screen except for that tab area. This will close the tab.

See if everything works after that and post back.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

sorry, tried both methods, and niether suggestion worked : /

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Well shoot!

I know that there are times when xkbd doesn't respond at all in Dosbox and the above trick immediately resolves the situation.

I tried running Ultima IV, the upgrade version but it's been crashing on me.

What are your settings for this?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Basic:

cpu cycles 1400
render frameskip 2
sdl fullscreen false

advanced:

mixer prebuffer 400
sdl autolock true
sdl mapperfile /home/user/.rubybox/.mappers/mapper72.txt

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Sorry, but do you also have a save file as well?

I can look it over while watching football. :)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Stereoprism, just for kicks try this.....copy my old /usr/share/dosbox directory to your internal memory (a copy this directory can be obtained here). Now see if your directional pad works when you run games through RubyBox. This was an initial fix for me awhile back. If it doesn't work, just delete the /usr/share/dosbox directory from your internal memory.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

pushwall: how do I copy it to my internal memory? I'm a complete newbie at this. I've read instances where one has to put files in directories like that, but all I've seen is what's on the file manager. I can't browse the internal memory except what's in my document, audio clip, etc. directories.

Addison:

This is what showed up in xterm while I ran U4:

~ $ rbox

^[[A^[[B^[[Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

DOSBox version 0.73

Copyright 2002-2009 DOSBox Team, published under GNU GPL.

---

CONFIG:Loading primary settings from config file /home/user/apps/DOSBox 0.73 Preferences.txt

CONFIG:Loading additional settings from config file /home/user/.rubybox/Roleplaying_Games/ultima_iv_-_upgrade_version.conf

ALSA lib seq.c:935:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw

ALSA:Can't open sequencer

MIDI:Opened device:none

MAPPER: Loading mapper settings from /home/user/.rubybox/.mappers/mapper72.txt

killall: dosbox: no process killed

Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

Sorry - server Keyboard map doesn't contain either 2 or 4 KeySyms per Keycode - unsupported!

DOSBox version 0.73

Copyright 2002-2009 DOSBox Team, published under GNU GPL.

---

CONFIG:Loading primary settings from config file /home/user/apps/DOSBox 0.73 Preferences.txt

CONFIG:Loading additional settings from config file /home/user/.rubybox/Roleplaying_Games/ultima_iv_-_upgrade_version.conf

ALSA lib seq.c:935:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw

ALSA:Can't open sequencer

MIDI:Opened device:none

MAPPER: Loading mapper settings from /home/user/.rubybox/.mappers/mapper72.txt

killall: dosbox: no process killed

killall: xkbd: no process killed

killall: dosbox: no process killed

~ $

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Hey Pushwall!

If you ask me, we should just give up on Stereoprism, he's probably a freak anyway. :)


Okay.

So looking over all of those errors you posted, they actually look about right.

Strange as it might seem, as far as I know, they're nothing to worry about. So you should be good.

I'm thinking it's got to be the game you're running and there's something simple we're missing.

Try this and we'll know for sure.

Download Nethack:
Nethack

Fire it up, create a quick character and see if you can move him with the number pad as well as your hardware D Pad.

Let's us know your results.

I'm guessing that it should work.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

I tried nethack (which seems really fun btw), and it's the same problem. No directional movement on the hardware d pad or the xkbd directional keys.

I'm trying to use xarchiver to place pushwall's directory files, but it won't let me extract into the main file library, claiming that I don't have the right permissions.

I believe I've gained root access via xterminal by downloading rootsh and typing "gain root" in xterm. I should be able to extract to these directories, right?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

In XTerminal after you have gained root access, see if you can type in these commands:
cd /usr/share
mkdir dosbox

If that works, then try using xarchiver to place the files into the directory:
/usr/share/dosbox

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay, I've tried it, and xarchiver is still saying I don't have permission to extract to usr/share/dosbox : [

should I activate red pill mode, or does that matter at all?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Before you do that,.....I just remembered that the files in my zip file have the directory structure /usr/share/dosbox as part of the zip file. Try using xarchiver to place the files in this new zip file into /usr/share/dosbox (this zip file doesn't have the file structure associated with it).

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

yeah, it's still saying I don't have the right permissions to extract to that directory.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay my next suggestion is to install the file manager EmelFM2. Once that is installed, you can use a cardreader (if you don't already have one, they are cheap and found most anywhere) to transfer the individual files in that zip file from Windows to a directory on your tablet's media card. And then use EmelFM2 to copy those files from the media card to the /usr/share/dosbox directory.

(BTW, I personally use WinSCP to transfer files back and forth from WIndows to my tablet and vice versa, but that's too complicated to get into right now. I do suggest you learn about WinSCP and use it since it makes file transfers like this so much faster and easier.)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

I extracted the files into a dir on my external sd card, and tried to move them over with emelfm2, but it's not letting me again. It seems like there's something still denying access. I don't know if a cardreader would make any difference. I have a usb cable I use to connect to my pc at home, but I don't think I can get access to the root internal memory from a pc, can I?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Yes you can access the tablet's internal memory from a PC using WinSCP. That's one of its great features.

Since you have the files over on your media card, you should be able to copy them over to /usr/share/dosbox directory. One question,...did you run emelfm2 while in root mode in XTerm? If not, try running emelfm2 in root mode and then copy the files. If this doesn't work and you still don't have access permissions, you can use emelfm2 to read and change directory permissions. In emelfm2, go to the /usr/share directory and tap on the dosbox directory. Press the menu key (the middle one on the left below the Escape key) and it will pull up a menu. Select Actions, and then select Change permissions. You'll see what the current permissions are for the directory with boxes you can check and uncheck to change the permissions.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

I tried running emelfm2 w/ root enabled on xterm, didn't work, and then I tried changing permissions. When I bring up the change permissions window, it says I don't have authority to make any changes.

I wonder why nokia didn't just make the entire file system open to begin with...

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay, I'm running out of ideas but let's try this. Since this is an access permissions problem, let's double-check your root status. Go into xterm and enable root. Type in:
whoami

It should say 'root'. If it says something else like 'user' then you aren't logged in as root.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Okay, it does indeed say "root" when I type in "whoami". I'm still unable to change permissions with the directory.

btw, I realize just how ridiculous this is getting. I promise I'm not just making up problems to solve : P

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Ridiculous stuff is Addison's territory. Addison? Addison? Where are you when I need you bud?!! :D

Okay let's try this. Enable root in xterm, type in and run emelfm2, and then try to copy any file from your media card to the /usr/share directory. What happens?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Ok, I'll try that later tonight after I've recharged it. I'm at work right now and it's gone dead :P

Maybe I should also state that I bought my n800 used, if that makes a difference.

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Hey Stereo, would it kill you just to reflash the whole darn tablet? :D

Only thing left that I can think of is that you either had or have "Maemo Extras-Develop" added as one of your catalogs at some point in time.

If that's correct than you basically would have been ungrading to an older, broken version.

Happened to me about a month ago.

Chatted with ukki over at #knots on freenode and he had me delete something but I forgot what.

And with that, I'm out of suggestions.

Take luck and care! *lol*

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GADZOOKS, PUSHWALL!

it worked!

I've always wanted to say gadzooks.

I ran the file manager from xterm after gaining root, and now I'm able to use the directional keys. Thanks for all the effort, both of you. Very much appreciated.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Haha that's great! :cool:

So was it copying my dosbox directory into the /usr/share directory the thing that worked? I'm curious since that was how I got the directional keys to work initially for me with new version of DosBox. Or was it something else?

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

No, that was it, copying your files into usr/share/dosbox/. I have no idea how or why it worked, but I'm happy it did!

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I liked my simple solution better............ all 10 of them. :)


It's great to hear you got it working. One last suggestion though.

The default dosbox.conf file is not at all optimized to run on the tablet.

You basically need to go through numerous options, both basic and advanced, to boost up little bits of speed here and there.

Well, nice to see another Dosbox fan.

For a while there, I thought it was only Pushwall and myself left. :)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

I love dosbox, and I'm quite glad it's on my n800.

Any links to instructions on boosting dosbox speeds? It should all be pretty standard, since we're looking at the same hardware, no matter what n8x0 you're looking at.

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Just for the record, I am a DOSBox fan too (of course), only I use it for old applications more than games (thus the reason I'd like DOSemu better, but that's not possible).

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Well Stereoprism, the list of what to do in boosting speed can be rather long and extensive.

Main thing to realize is that removing Soundblaster in Dosbox and installing a game without music support is the strongest method to enhance performance.

I'll try to post several little suggestions though in a couple of days.

Sorry Javis for not mentioning you like DOS as well.

How could I have forgotten the dude who compiled this for us? :D

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Hi all, I've been reading this thread with interest and hoping the N900 will handle this and other emulators like MAME etc.

Great stuff :)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Maybe we should start a new thread on Dosbox performance tricks or something.

Maybe with enough feedback from a few of us we could get better final results by adding the compiled suggestions of everyone.

I'll start with the first trick:
I believe having the game folder located in your internal flash memory gives you about an extra 50 cycles speed boost when compared to using a memory card.

Okay. Who's found something else worth noting? :)

Re: DOSBox 0.65 ... ftw
 

Do you have a benchmark or some game you can easily measure performance?

If so, may I ask you to try a modified build of DOSBox I just made?
Debian package:
dosbox_0.73-7maemo4test1_armel.deb
Gzipped binary:
dosbox.gz
Use one of the above, not both (whatever is easiest for you).

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Oooooh!

Okay, I think I just got a little too excited there but any new release from you touches me in dirty places. :D

Well, I've got tonight off so I'll definitely give it a try! I can just download the .deb and then install it over the current version, correct?

The "benchmark" game, if you will, was X-COM: UFO Defense.

That 50 increase in cycle speed by putting on internal flash was only subjective.

Anyway, with every little tweak here and there, I actually got it running quite nicely. Big surprise on that! :)

The thing is, I finally gave up since there was no way to get around using the right click function required in the game.

Can't wait to test it out later tonight.

Many thanks!

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Yes, but this build may be even slower (it is for some test cases of mine). That's why I am asking :)