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freemangordon 2012-08-03 12:08

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobless (Post 1246901)
What this ? it is safe to upgrade ?

I am thinking to put some random package in repo wiping rootfs for example. Hoping that way those of you who have no clue, to learn to follow the instructions AND USE HAM, dammit!

michaaa62 2012-08-03 12:14

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1246924)
I am thinking to put some random package in repo wiping rootfs for example. Hoping that way those of you who have no clue, to learn to follow the instructions AND USE HAM, dammit!

HAM is so ..., you will not succeed! :D

Nobless 2012-08-03 17:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1246924)
I am thinking to put some random package in repo wiping rootfs for example. Hoping that way those of you who have no clue, to learn to follow the instructions AND USE HAM, dammit!

I'm not using FAM to upgrade, just checking with FAM is there a new updates or no because its BILLION TIMES FASTER than with crappy and slow HAM!!

dy1ng 2012-08-03 19:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1246924)
I am thinking to put some random package in repo wiping rootfs for example. Hoping that way those of you who have no clue, to learn to follow the instructions AND USE HAM, dammit!

during your last kernel - updater update, the HAM says something like: "the update is breaking the whatever upgrade policy", and the process is simply interrupted.
then i go to x-term, type all installable/upgradeable packages names: apt-get install --reinstall, and this is works fine, inclding the kernel flashing

first I always tried to use HAM for the general updates from you, as you say, but if it doesn't works fine, I have to do it from x-term..

HAM is repeatedly surprises me with strange messages.. hate it.
btw your work is still amazing, so i'm not complaining

(sorry again for my english :D )

misterc 2012-08-03 20:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1246924)
I am thinking to put some random package in repo wiping rootfs for example. Hoping that way those of you who have no clue, to learn to follow the instructions AND USE HAM, dammit!

which of the repositories (catalogs in NOKIA / HAM parlance) are needed?
especially extras-testing & extras-devel take a lot of time to update of course, but removing any unneeded rep / cat helps...

peterleinchen 2012-08-04 11:57

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1246926)
HAM is so ..., you will not succeed! :D

As I do not want to put freemangordons view in question at all, I also have to say, that HAM sometimes does not do what you want it/him/her to do (besides its slowlyness).
Last time I wanted to upgrade to PR1.3.1 and HAM did not let me (message: "to less free space ...." with over 25MB free on rootFS).
I took a deep breath and let FAM do the work. Done.

But in general you should follow freemangordons advice!

freemangordon 2012-08-04 12:55

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Guys, I am not saying HAM is the next best thing since the sliced bread was discovered, the point is that repo may contain stuff still not tested enough, broken stuff, etc, etc. That is why metapackage is - once I am sure new stuff won't break anything, I put a new mp and announce it here. HAM does not show packages while in the middle of my work. Those of you who are knowledgeable enough may use wget and dpkg if they wish, as they won't post questions here like "why HAM says I should use OVI Suite" and such. The others have to just disable extras-testing and extras-devel and use HAM. That way repo update takes no more than 1-2 minutes. And if something breaks, we have a common ground to start from.

I hope you get it :)

HELLASISGREECE 2012-08-04 14:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I think I can "see" my N900 performing better now (with CSSU Thumb)

I guess it's because of the more free RAM it gained. I hope it's not a placebo effect : )

oh, and btw... I also feel that the N900 is more "alive" than the N9. Many things keep getting better and better almost everyday.

rlinfati 2012-08-04 19:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
my n900 work better, but the new kernel (cssu) do not work with joikuspot :(

dr_frost_dk 2012-08-04 20:04

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Normal N900 that is now taking a rest:
Running Power50
RAM: 147MB
SWAP: 107MB
Total: 254MB

Other N900 that is now primary:
Running cssu3 Thumb 14
RAM: 139MB
SWAP: 50MB
Total: 189MB

But all in all i have only install the basics and contacts, g.talk and skype running.
So memory usage is subject to change, will properly post again in a month or something

sixwheeledbeast 2012-08-04 20:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk (Post 1247521)
So memory usage is subject to change, will properly post again in a month or something

Thought Estel started a Thread for posting memory usage comparisons like this.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85720

michaaa62 2012-08-04 21:40

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rlinfati (Post 1247501)
my n900 work better, but the new kernel (cssu) do not work with joikuspot :(

Take a look at qtmobilehotspot, it is quite usable.

dudubaryosaf 2012-08-06 11:18

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
thank you very much freemangordon for this great work, sorry for my lack of knowledge, but I was presented with a problem with the last kernel update 10cssu3 and I can not because I get this "linux kernel breaks the SSU community for 3rd party package policy", I have set 2, the kernels kp51 and comunity cssu2 thumb. I thought I have to uninstall the kp51 is not to conflict between them, if anyone can help me please. greetings sorry for my bad English

HELLASISGREECE 2012-08-06 12:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dudubaryosaf (Post 1248230)
thank you very much freemangordon for this great work, sorry for my lack of knowledge, but I was presented with a problem with the last kernel update 10cssu3 and I can not because I get this "linux kernel breaks the SSU community for 3rd party package policy", I have set 2, the kernels kp51 and comunity cssu2 thumb. I thought I have to uninstall the kp51 is not to conflict between them, if anyone can help me please. greetings sorry for my bad English

I think you have to go to X-terminal , become root and then type apt-get install -f

freemangordon 2012-08-06 13:38

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dudubaryosaf (Post 1248230)
thank you very much freemangordon for this great work, sorry for my lack of knowledge, but I was presented with a problem with the last kernel update 10cssu3 and I can not because I get this "linux kernel breaks the SSU community for 3rd party package policy", I have set 2, the kernels kp51 and comunity cssu2 thumb. I thought I have to uninstall the kp51 is not to conflict between them, if anyone can help me please. greetings sorry for my bad English

You can check which is the problematic package on "problems" tab. If it is kernel-cssu-bootimg, you can safely remove it.

dudubaryosaf 2012-08-06 16:28

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
freemangordon, thanks for your help. I have not really installed the kernel-CSSU-bootimg only the two kernels and kernel for Linux power user (settings and overclock) that's all, and part of the problem, just say "impossible to update linux kernel for SSU community." you think if I uninstall the kernel ssu from the desktop there is an icon to uninstall or maybe I wait for another update. thanks

mr_pingu 2012-08-06 17:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
When I wanted to update first to cssu3 kernel, I got the same error. Then I updated to thumb14 ( I was on thumb10) and cssu3 kernel automatically pulled with it. Maybe you need to do a full CSSU-Thumb update

freemangordon 2012-08-06 17:40

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dudubaryosaf (Post 1248323)
freemangordon, thanks for your help. I have not really installed the kernel-CSSU-bootimg only the two kernels and kernel for Linux power user (settings and overclock) that's all, and part of the problem, just say "impossible to update linux kernel for SSU community." you think if I uninstall the kernel ssu from the desktop there is an icon to uninstall or maybe I wait for another update. thanks

well, for start you may want to post here what is written under problems tab in HAM when you try to update Maemo5

dudubaryosaf 2012-08-06 17:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
no it can not be because I have updated the last update thumb14, in my case was first appeared after the thumb14 and the new kernel 10cssu3 of which I can not upgrade for the mistakes mentioned above, there will be some way to upgrade the X-terminal, alguin please help me

dudubaryosaf 2012-08-06 17:57

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1248363)
well, for start you may want to post here what is written under problems tab in HAM when you try to update Maemo5

impossible to update "linux kernel community for SSU"

freemangordon 2012-08-06 18:42

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dudubaryosaf (Post 1248368)
impossible to update "linux kernel community for SSU"

Pal, if you want someone to help you, please post here EVERYTHING, not only the top line. In "problems" tab that is.

dudubaryosaf 2012-08-06 20:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
did not understand what you need, I got tired of waiting and desintale the kernel, well one of the 2-is and is not over. died my n900 is a shame I have no knowledge of this but thank you very much anyway

reinob 2012-08-06 21:03

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

did not understand what you need
Quote:

I got tired of waiting
Quote:

I have no knowledge of this
Some, (alpha), tester.
Geez.

mr_pingu 2012-08-06 21:45

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1248429)
Some, (alpha), tester.
Geez.


For completeness sake, this is what the first post says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon
USUAL WARNINGS:

This is still in highly experimental stage and while so far there are no known issues, I will take no responsibility for any damage and/or data loss caused by using CSSU-thumb repo. It is highly unlikely to happen, but be prepared to reflash if something goes south. Make a full backup of your data/settings/whatever before installing stuff from CSSU-thumb repo

You've been warned :P


dudubaryosaf 2012-08-07 08:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
if I knew I ran a risk but, well there is a parable or saying that goes: nothing ventured, nothing gained so luckily had a backup, did a reflash and a long night, but hey I have returned freemangordon. ......... thanks for your help. and now start again but all data will be a matter of a week, so if I tell you already install the kernel thumb14 commnityssu 10cssu3, ie I have the latest update and I did for the link of this topic principle, and I have installed the kp51r1, the question need to install or not. besides the kernel boot-image ssu can not be installed because it appears as conflict, reported for the case you want to install nitdroid kernel? that should do? the phone is pretty good and smooth. freemangordon last direct question? I recommend installing the speedpatch or do you think is crap and takes effect in na N900 thanks to everyone and I hope to comment on something good to share and help. from the best smartphone in the world I say goodbye good morning ........................................ .

dr_frost_dk 2012-08-07 19:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Status so far:

N900 is:
More responsive and faster in some parts
Swap is greatly reduced, using less then 75MB


But, some of my encoded video's really need abit more speed since they are encoded pretty heavily and i am sorry to ask again but have anybody been able to overclock successful using thumb

when i get the time i will flash my other N900 and put every program and IM and such on it like this and compare memory.

freemangordon 2012-08-07 19:51

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
@dudubaryosaf - do not install speedpatch or batterypatch. Just enable SmartReflex in /etc/pmconfig if you want better battery life. Search the forum for other ways to do it.

@dr_frost_dk - yep, just download KPS .deb from repos and install it with dpkg , using --force-depends .

mr_pingu 2012-08-07 19:53

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1248833)
@dudubaryosaf - do not install speedpatch or batterypatch. Just enable SmartReflex in /etc/pmconfig if you want better battery life. Search the forum for other ways to do it.

@dr_frost_dk - yep, just download the .deb from repos and install it with dpkg , using --force-depends .

I just installed kp-settings from the repo's without force installing it, I believe. I believe since v16 of kp-settings dependencies were fixed ;)

freemangordon 2012-08-07 20:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1248835)
I just installed kp-settings from the repo's without force installing it, I believe. I believe since v16 of kp-settings dependencies were fixed ;)

Just tried, KPS is still v14. I believe you installed that. The bad thing is that it flashes KP50, which does not have thumb errata workaround.

mr_pingu 2012-08-07 20:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1248842)
Just tried, KPS is still v14. I believe you installed that. The bad thing is that it flashes KP50, which does not have thumb errata workaround.

Code:

apt-cache policy kernel-power-settings
kernel-power-settings:
  Installed: 0.16
  Candidate: 0.16
  Version table:
 *** 0.16 0
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    0.14 0
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages
    0.13 0
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages
    0.3 0
        500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages


And as you can see here, you can find v16 in testing and devel:
http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-settings/
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...settings/0.16/

dr_frost_dk 2012-08-07 21:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
sorry if im abit confused about the last couple of posts, but what's the total conclusion on what to do, i really don't want to reflash again.....

freemangordon 2012-08-07 21:31

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk (Post 1248871)
sorry if im abit confused about the last couple of posts, but what's the total conclusion on what to do, i really don't want to reflash again.....

Well, it seems KPS 0.16 is out, but only in extras-testing. So you should enable it and install KPS in usual way.

dr_frost_dk 2012-08-07 21:40

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
ok will do, installing KPS 0.16 Via FAM


EDIT:

so far so good :), everything works, no errors so far.
have done a reboot also just to be sure, memory usage is still low so would seem to double confirm that it is still running thumb.
NOW my N900 is REALLY snappy :), improved the video play also,
Running LV, 250-850

uname -a
Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-cssu3 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jul 28 18:05:05 EDT 2012 armv7l unknown

freemangordon 2012-08-07 21:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk (Post 1248875)
ok will do, installing KPS 0.16 Via FAM


EDIT:

so far so good :), everything works, no errors so far.
have done a reboot also just to be sure, memory usage is still low so would seem to double confirm that it is still running thumb.
NOW my N900 is REALLY snappy :), improved the video play also,
Running LV, 250-850

uname -a
Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-cssu3 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jul 28 18:05:05 EDT 2012 armv7l unknown

[OT]
you'd better turn SR VDD1 and VDD2 on, instead of using undervolting profiles, SR should be stable since KP50 ;)
[/OT]

JadeH 2012-08-08 08:02

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I like this project so far, good work

n900_ 2012-08-08 09:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Or use undervolting profile + SR VDD1 and VDD2 on :)
My n900 is fully stable on ideal profile, 500-900MHz clock and SR VDD1 and VDD2 on (even on heavy usage of cpu)

It became unstable when I set dsp to 600MHz (while playing videos), but it's stable on xlv profile.

sixwheeledbeast 2012-08-08 09:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1249029)
Or use undervolting profile + SR VDD1 and VDD2 on :)
My n900 is fully stable on ideal profile, 500-900MHz clock and SR VDD1 and VDD2 on (even on heavy usage of cpu)

It became unstable when I set dsp to 600MHz (while playing videos), but it's stable on xlv profile.

DO NOT USE VOLTAGE PROFILES LIKE (LV, XLV, STARVING ETC) AND SMARTREFLEX AT THE SAME TIME!
Please read the updated Overclocking and Smartreflex wikis.
You only require voltage profiles if using >900Mhz.

How you can quote fmg and advise something else on this topic is beyond me?

n900_ 2012-08-08 09:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
OK,,sorry for that
I should read wiki.

EDIT: I read wiki (I didn't know, that smartreflex is automatic undervolting :() My fail
Sorry freemangordon, sixwheeledbeast

dr_frost_dk 2012-08-08 10:53

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I read the wiki and MANY posts to get info on VDD1/2 SR but can't seem to find were to "unload" LV, i already loaded LV and made it default.
if so far just use the "echo 1 >" way until i have this down

I have not have problems so far, but would like to do it properly


sorry to keep rubbing in this "topic" but it should be resolved and added to POST #1, it would be a great help to many

So far the easy way is Kernel-Power-Setting 0.16, that works, now just need to the kernel-config "profile guide" and enable SR.

fw190 2012-08-08 11:01

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Well I usually use default profile which turns on SR - it gives me a longer stand by if it's not placebo ;)
Sometimes I turn on dsp profile and that is it.
I have latest settings installed and it works ok.


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