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jalyst 2013-01-28 13:02

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Oh noes, Lumiaman's lurking folks, be ready for some flamebaiting...

Makeclick 2013-01-28 13:53

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1318364)
If that was the case why didn't they say announce?

For my eyes/ears, it's friendlier way to say announce.. Move on ->

jalyst 2013-01-28 14:04

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The danger has passed, for now...

thedead1440 2013-01-28 14:06

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1318405)
The danger has passed, for now...

Don't you miss him? Its been almost a month since he's gone AWOL and the only time he posted was to inform about his $100 donation to HiFo and wishing luck; I wonder if that was indeed him or his split personality :D

Dave999 2013-01-28 14:15

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You trolls miss him or do you want talk jolla here? I can PM him to come over here...

mariusmssj 2013-01-28 14:35

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So Zopo makes Samsung rip-offs? From some of the reviews seems like quality devices might be good.

tissot 2013-01-28 16:07

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1318413)
So Zopo makes Samsung rip-offs? From some of the reviews seems like quality devices might be good.

I'm kind of intrigued by these Chinese mobile companies that we here in West so easily call shitty.
And granted many of them do have that nasty habit of copying Android, Nokia and Apple devices, but i'm still interested to see what they can do with Sailfish.

Specifications usually seem to be up there.

zlatokosi 2013-01-28 16:28

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A bit off topic, but:

"While the Zopo spokesperson did not elaborate on the phone's specifications, it is expected to get very high end specifications, and is likely to feature ST-Ericsson's latest NovaThor platform (CPU), and probably a quad core version of the platform that was announced recently. Sailfish operating system is based on Meego operating system, which was jointly developed by Nokia, Intel and Linux, and was later abandoned by Nokia in favour of Windows Phone OS. "

Sounds promising...

http://www.themobileindian.com/news/...-soon-to-India

shmerl 2013-01-28 16:42

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NovaThor was kind of expected.

jalyst 2013-01-28 16:55

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Yeah but I'm not sure if it's going to be this one....
http://nokiagadgets.com/2013/01/08/s...ntegrated-lte/
STE is supposedly only shipping samples to partners this quarter...
If Zopo's planning to have theirs our before Jolla, then it's probably less impressive silicon.
Which isn't surprising, given that they've generally focused on the cheap (but fairly top-end specs) Android segment.
Even Jolla would be "cutting it fine" to get their ph out by the end of Summer if they're using the L8580.

Then there's the small problem of STM purportedly having financial issues, like possibly quite serious ones.
Then again, I'm not sure exactly how that translates to STE, as STM's supposedly selling their stake in STE.
Whereas Ericsson has not (at least yet) announced any such plans, nor do they intend to buy STM's 50% stake.
Which may mean STE longer-term is merged back into Ericsson, & becomes focused more around modems & not complete SoCs.
If they both manage to kick-on but go their separates ways, I guess that doesn't mean they'll stop supporting STE SoC's.
I just hope it doesn't prevent STE's latest silicon from making it to end devices, otherwise Jolla/Sailfish could be "up **** creek".

jalyst 2013-01-28 17:17

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These two look to be roughly the same, & seem to be just below the L8580 all up:
http://www.stericsson.com/products/L8540.jsp
http://www.stericsson.com/products/L9540-novathor.jsp
But oddly the L9540 supposedly supports up to QXGA res, whereas the other 2 support only up to WUXGA (not that that's a big deal).

willi6868 2013-01-28 17:36

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1318362)
Somehow i doubt Jolla has the resources or the need for data collecting at moment like Apple, not to talk about Google that's whole business is to collect data about you and different groups.

Sure that's right :rolleyes: but i have some doubts about using android apps through the Alien Dalvik engine..

BTW I don't like the icons of the app grid. I would love to see icons which are equal to the icons of Nokia N9, an FM Transmitter would be great and it's a downgrade that Sailfish OS can only run 9 apps at the same time :rolleyes:

Dave999 2013-01-28 18:15

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but mapping can collect data. If they go for Google maps, nokia maps or sygic they will track your every move.

shmerl 2013-01-28 18:44

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Why should Jolla care about data collection? They aren't an advertisement company.

waldo 2013-01-28 18:50

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Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1318458)
A bit off topic, but:

"While the Zopo spokesperson did not elaborate on the phone's specifications, it is expected to get very high end specifications, and is likely to feature ST-Ericsson's latest NovaThor platform (CPU), and probably a quad core version of the platform that was announced recently. Sailfish operating system is based on Meego operating system, which was jointly developed by Nokia, Intel and Linux, and was later abandoned by Nokia in favour of Windows Phone OS. "

Sounds promising...

http://www.themobileindian.com/news/...-soon-to-India


I'm really happy with each carrier announcement, means better chance of survival. This to me is on topic thanks for the news.

mikecomputing 2013-01-28 21:12

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starting to give up on Jolla, I doubt we ever will see a device in european :(

I think Jolla will be Asia,India only... If they ever get a chance. Also it depends heavily how much attention they get on MWC where it stands between, Jolla, BB10, possible ubuntu and firefox. Looks tto me firefox getting much attention atm...

Dave999 2013-01-28 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1318556)
starting to give up on Jolla, I doubt we ever will see a device in european :(

I think Jolla will be Asia,India only... If they ever get a chance. Also it depends heavily how much attention they get on MWC where it stands between, Jolla, BB10, possible ubuntu and firefox. Looks tto me firefox getting much attention atm...

And android and tizen. Samsung will put a shadow over evertything when they move with GSIV.

mariusmssj 2013-01-29 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1318556)
starting to give up on Jolla, I doubt we ever will see a device in european :(

I think Jolla will be Asia,India only... If they ever get a chance. Also it depends heavily how much attention they get on MWC where it stands between, Jolla, BB10, possible ubuntu and firefox. Looks tto me firefox getting much attention atm...

Will your phone be available on the US market?
Quote:

Jolla's first focus on product distribution will be in Europe and Asia. US is not planned in the first stage.
There is 2 more months Q1 I am sure Jolla will reveal what they got planned and They did clearly say there will be a phone for Europe!

Waiting is no fun I know, but we must be patient

jalyst 2013-01-29 09:49

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They've also never said all of EU, it'll probably be a very small handful of EU countries for starters (e.g. Germany/UK + maybe a few Nordic countries).

Dave999 2013-01-29 10:02

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I will set up shop and will sell jolla phones worldwide to TMO.org members. Est price: $830+shipping+$1 profit for me.

Please visit my webstore: http://jollaunofficialstore.com

so if I'm selling 1000 phones I will earn $1000 which is equal to one device for me.

mariusmssj 2013-01-29 10:06

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1318686)
They've also never said all of EU, it'll probably be a very small handful of EU countries for starters (e.g. Germany/UK + maybe a few Nordic countries).

N9 was never released or officially sold in UK but I was still able to buy one.

Depends if you want sim free or contract purchase. Even if they released in china only I don't see how would that stop anyone from buying it?

jalyst 2013-01-29 10:19

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That's true, & Europeans are lucky in that warranties are required (by law) to be acknowledged...
Even if a phone is bought in a non-launch country or imported from a launch country (so long as the countries involved are part of the EU).

Dave999 2013-01-29 11:31

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1318355)
I hope Jolla will care about our data privacy and wont be an other big datacollector like google...

Not exacly sure what this means...

http://euobserver.com/justice/118857

tissot 2013-01-29 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1318556)
starting to give up on Jolla, I doubt we ever will see a device in european :(

I think Jolla will be Asia,India only... If they ever get a chance. Also it depends heavily how much attention they get on MWC where it stands between, Jolla, BB10, possible ubuntu and firefox. Looks tto me firefox getting much attention atm...

Their first operator they have officially partnered and will 100% carry the Jolla phone is Finnish DNA and they still call Europe their home. Of course we don't know about rest of Europe, but we will know more in this quarter.

For them the only real place they can hope some kind of success in their scale is China. Plus from their Nokia days they seem to have retained some connections to that market, shown by the deals they have done.
Meaning they will certainly focus at China, but still make the phone available somewhere around Europe.

Dave999 2013-01-29 12:20

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WAKE UP!

Not sure what this means, but http://sailfishos.org/ is down.

Do they have to take it down to enable the SDK :p. One can hope!

WoHooo. We are in a brand new SUB :D

willi6868 2013-01-29 13:18

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1318717)
WAKE UP!

Not sure what this means, but http://sailfishos.org/ is down.

Do they have to take it down to enable the SDK :p. One can hope!

WoHooo. We are in a brand new SUB :D

Website is online ... :D

Dave999 2013-01-29 13:24

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1318736)
Website is online ... :D

Yes, And nothing exciting at all...:(

herpderp 2013-01-29 14:45

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1318738)
Yes, And nothing exciting at all...:(

This page was last modified on 10 December 2012, at 23:21.

Dave999 2013-01-30 20:15

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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1318755)
This page was last modified on 10 December 2012, at 23:21.

Yes, but that's is not intressting. They should change that to: This page will be updated with SDK January 2013, at 23:21.

Makeclick 2013-02-02 10:33

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Kind of new video, but there is nothin new on it.. i think http://ubuntu.hezy.net/video/103944/...n-jolla-on-n-/

benny1967 2013-02-02 12:15

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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1320065)
Kind of new video, but there is nothin new on it.. i think http://ubuntu.hezy.net/video/103944/...n-jolla-on-n-/

Wasnt it published in Nov. 2012?

mariusmssj 2013-02-02 17:49

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Jolla Mobile
Quote:

Heads up Developers: The Sailfish SDK Alpha version will be released during this month - Jolla

jalyst 2013-02-02 18:38

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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...32#post1320132
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...31#post1320131

Dave999 2013-02-02 18:43

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Well, since admin and moderators wants 3 simular thread with simular content I don't see any issues with posting same info in all of them

mikecomputing 2013-02-02 21:01

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1320189)
Jolla Mobile

"alpha version" WTF is going on :(

rcolistete 2013-02-03 02:02

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1320222)
"alpha version" WTF is going on :(

The same that happened with Harmattan SDK, which was still beta in the beginning of 2012.

shmerl 2013-02-03 02:47

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It can mean that it's not the final state of it. Stuff can change.

Dave999 2013-02-03 07:32

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This is their first OS so I'm sure the whole OS is pretty much ALPHA. So why not the SDK?

mariusmssj 2013-02-03 20:39

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I want to know if there will be a full system emulator like the WP7/8 has. Would be cool to play around with the emulated SailfishOS

Dave999 2013-02-03 21:12

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1320527)
I want to know if there will be a full system emulator like the WP7/8 has. Would be cool to play around with the emulated SailfishOS

I doubt that will be included in an alpha. If jolla survive 1 year it might be included. Always better to test on device.


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