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Windows will grow. I guess it will have 1/4 of the market 2015. The question is how big nokia can be in the Windows area. If samsung and htc keep pushing windows phones.

Let's hope Elop is gone at the time. He shall never see another victory in his business life.

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Another? When did he have a business victory before?

Quoting this article:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...ore-sense-now/

"What’s more, Microsoft (or another company) can probably pick up Nokia for a bargain. Nokia has seen the value of its stock drop more than 90 percent in the last five years, from a high of $39.72 in October 2008 to a 15-year low of $2.84 on June 4 of this year. (Going back further is even more frightening: Nokia traded for $56.06 back in April of 2000.) In April, ratings agencies began downgrading the rating on Nokia’s bonds to junk status, making it even more difficult for the company to borrow money to continue operations."

Regarding Windows Phone market share in particular... I think it's only IDC that makes that grand prediction and it's looking ridiculous doing it. Here.. have a read:
http://betanews.com/2012/06/06/if-wi...llmers-toilet/

"The newest forecast is flawed in many of the same ways as its predecessors. IDC assumes that Nokia's reach, particularly in emerging markets, will lift Windows Phone shipments. At last, IDC concedes this by placing a big 'exit in the case of emergency' clause in the new forecast by qualifying: 'Assuming Nokia's foothold in emerging markets is maintained.'"

Summarizing the points he makes...

Five factors negate IDC's Windows Phone predictions:

1. Samsung ended Nokia's 14-year handset lead during first quarter
2. IDC's first-quarter data on shipments and Gartner's on sales show Nokia losing momentum in emerging markets
3. IDC forecasts a 10-percent decline in feature phone shipments
4. Samsung accounts for 40 percent of Android sales
5. The smartphone market is consolidating around two major manufacturers -- Apple and Samsung.

IDC hinges Windows Phone's ascension to Nokia distribution. But as these five points show, Nokia's future success is uncertain.

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https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp...YSE:NOK&ntsp=0

It's going all the way, baby.

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Well, nothing like firing 10k people to make your stock price go up.

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Along with firing 10000 employees, there are also some changes in the management.

There's a Executive VP of Sales and Marketing. Chris Weber, former Head of Markets, North America. You know, the one responsible for Nokias continuing biggest failure, the North American market. A blind man can see where this is heading.

Mary McDowell is out, and Meltemi with her. Customer and Market Operations VP Timo Toikkanen takes over her job. Susan Sheehan is senior vice president of Communications.

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It's not having that effect though.

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...d8d4e259a3.png

Numbers from Swedish and Finnish stock exchange are not going anywhere... uppy.

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I was being fully sarcastic.

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I chose to ignore that for now. Cutting costs are known to impress investors in given conditions.

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Destroying the business is known to 'unimpress' the investors

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NYSE just opened, instant 14% drop... Enjoying that, Lumiaman?