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wicket

2016-05-29 15:01

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

I really don't understand the hostility in thread towards Dave999. He created this thread, let him say what he likes. You're all free create another Jolla Tablet thread if you don't like what he says. I don't agree with everything he says but let him say it, as long he doesn't cross the line. Last night someone else did cross the line and I had the unfortunate displeasure of seeing something I really hoped I would never see on this forum. If it were me, I would have issued a ban but he seems to have escaped with a slap the wrist. Give Dave a break, he's not the bad guy here.

Dave999

2016-05-29 16:13

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

yeah it sad so see stuff like yesterday and other personal attacks that don't result in bans. I have seen and also received a few personal attacks and it usually not dealt with other than removing(maybe some points). Sometimes they are allowed to stay too.

But most of the times most of the moderators are doing a great job, it not an easy task to handle people.

Anyway, I think people will be happier when the full refund finally appears. So let's focus on that rather than hunting the bad guy, whoever you think it is.

Dave999

2016-05-29 17:59

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

have everyone received the first part of the refund now so we can close that chapter and move on to second part?

cvp	2016-05-29 18:04

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

second scam part starts 01.01.2017

jellyroll

2016-05-29 18:36

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

999 problems but a Dave ain't one.
I do get pictures all kind of commercials pictures showing on the XDA forum site on my mind while reading a posts on this thread.

Dave,you got totally out of track, Sir.

The pre-orders for the Jolla C/Intex device are allready sold out AFAIK.
Do you really think that a company like Jolla would try to scam there costumers on purpose?

mscion

2016-05-29 19:29

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506484)

have everyone received the first part of the refund now so we can close that chapter and move on to second part?

No. I have not received my refund. I will try contacting Jolla first week of June.

jellyroll

2016-05-29 19:35

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Stay in contact figure!

Dave999

2016-05-30 05:31

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1506497)

No. I have not received my refund. I will try contacting Jolla first week of June.

Yeah, contact jolla. You might be the last One. Lets hope they have money left...

elastic

2016-05-30 08:51

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Got the refund for tablet and case but not for the 62gb upgrade - paid with different cards and Jolla keeps telling that they have to proceed that separately and I have to be patient till end of May to receive the money ...

ZogG	2016-05-30 08:56

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by elastic (Post 1506539)

it is the end of the may :)

P.S. And please do not tell me that there is another day :)

mscion

2016-05-30 12:53

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506524)

Yeah, contact jolla. You might be the last One. Lets hope they have money left...

Well, if I'm the last one, hopefully they have an extra 100 bucks sitting around...

Dave999

2016-05-30 15:25

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1506549)

Well, if I'm the last one, hopefully they have an extra 100 bucks sitting around...

Im sure they got money its more about IF they want to give it to you or invest it their OS...Lets wait and see what is happening.

mikecomputing

2016-05-30 18:31

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1506540)

it is the end of the may :)

P.S. And please do not tell me that there is another day :)

They meant end of May 2017

mikecomputing

2016-05-30 18:34

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

I just started cad my own tablet using:

http://kicad-pcb.org/

It will be ready for the masses 2023

cvp	2016-05-30 19:56

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1506571)

I just started cad my own tablet using:

http://kicad-pcb.org/

It will be ready for the masses 2023

cool, how can i pre-order, payment via paypal?

jellyroll

2016-05-30 20:41

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

The pre-order fever is hitting the internet.

szopin

2016-05-30 20:43

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Sign me up, whatever the terms and conditions are, this looks shiny

pichlo

2016-05-30 21:27

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1506571)

I just started cad my own tablet using:

http://kicad-pcb.org/

It will be ready for the masses 2023

No, no, no! That's not how you do it. You should say, delivered in Q3/2016 and then come up with a bunch of ~~excuses~~reasons why not.

gerbick

2016-05-31 02:18

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1506613)

No, no, no! That's not how you do it. You should say, delivered in Q3/2016 and then come up with a bunch of ~~excuses~~reasons why not.

I do believe that you have missed your calling in modern online marketing.

strongm

2016-05-31 09:07

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506439)

So we managed to convince Jolla about refund

Seriously?

Dave999

2016-05-31 09:59

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1506640)

Seriously?

Yes and no, together with the fact that it's bad buissniess to screw their most loyal supports. In fact, I think the commander in chief realized it was the only play after promising the tablet at slush.

It's would be fun to see how many that actually donated money now since many considerd it to be a donation in the first place.

elastic

2016-05-31 10:21

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by elastic (Post 1506539)

Todays answer from Jolla:

Hello.

Thanks for the heads up.

We need to investigate further. This will take its time, as we have several other cases, similar in nature.

We will get back to you as soon as we can.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care

:(

Dave999

2016-05-31 14:37

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by elastic (Post 1506643)

Didn't got half of the extra update to 64 either. But I rather feel scamed...as long as Jolla doing the honor that second refund.

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:07

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1506640)

Seriously?

Do not take the manchild of this thread serious in any measure.

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:10

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506659)

Do not take the manchild of this thread serious in any measure.

So you don't think Jolla listen to the community?

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:17

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506660)

So you don't think Jolla listen to the community?

Not the portion of the community that oft states and/or misspells "scammed".

Jolla is part of this community. Yet I cannot blame them from being somewhat reticent and avoiding interfacing certain folks due to how absolutely nothing will make some happy.

"It's not open enough..." types - yet nothing is open in the mobile sector fully open that has sold more than 10000 units. And being open doesn't really mean that they'd ever even add anything to it. Just that they're so damn used to saying "it must be open"... wannabe Richard Stallman.

"I've not received my full refund..." types - other crowdfunded failures got absolutely nothing back in most cases. Can't even find a moment of happiness in that it seems.

But since you have a very short attention span...

tl;dr

Yes. Jolla listens. Jolla is part of this community. Jolla didn't deliver the tablets. Jolla is still in business. Jolla still wants to be that option not named iOS and Android.

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:25

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Gerbick, we are talking about the refund decision here, which was the one you commented before.

You seems to be talking about somethings completely different in your last post, not less true but still a completely different animal of discussion.

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:33

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506663)

I'm addressing the entire situation. Pull out the bit that applies to you.

If you really think that you're behind the refund situation; you're way wrong. Jolla knew they had not delivered and they are making it right. You had nothing to do with it. And your entire "It's a scam" mantra has done nothing either.

Anything else you want me to say to stroke your ego today? Or can we consider this business concluded?

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:36

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506666)

Not me, but we. I'm not alone you know. Go back an read what I wrote. :D

Yes, we can. It's a done deal!

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:38

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506667)

Not me, but we. I'm not alone you know.

Burden of proof is on you. Prove it.

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:41

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506669)

Burden of proof is on you. Prove it.

You want me to send a mail to Jolla and ask if they considered the input from the community before decided to go for refund?

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:47

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506670)

You want me to send a mail to Jolla and ask if they considered the input from the community before decided to go for refund?

Yes. Exactly that.

Go.

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:51

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506671)

Yes. Exactly that.

Go.

I won't bother Jolla with an irrelevant game, but I don't think you have the odds with you if the question was asked like that :D

You might be better luck with: Did dave999 force you to issue refunds? But I don't think anyone believe that was the case. Atleast I hope not.

gerbick

2016-05-31 15:53

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506672)

I won't bother Jolla with an irrelevant game, but I don't think you have the odds with you if the question was asked like that...

Then perhaps stop claiming something you cannot prove. I'd rather think that Jolla knows that the community is more important to them than your repeated, self-serving commentary.

Dave999

2016-05-31 15:58

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506673)

Then perhaps stop claiming something you cannot prove. I'd rather think that Jolla knows that the community is more important to them than your repeated, self-serving commentary.

Never claimed that is a fact even if i actually believe comments from community was part of the discussion . We manged to get the result we wanted.

Done deal. Over and out. Now part 1 is done. (As soon as mscion get his money). Let's leave it as disagreement.

mscion

2016-05-31 16:09

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506674)

Never claimed did it even if I actually did it even If I think The comments from community was part of the discussion . We manged to get the result we wanted.

Done deal. Over and out. Now part 1 is done. (As soon as mscion get his money). Let's leave it as disagreement.

Ha ha. Still waiting. But I did contact customer service today and they are looking in to it. For the record, I have no ill feelings towards Jolla and I am hoping they succeed.

gerbick

2016-05-31 16:12

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506674)

Never claimed did it even if I actually did it even If I think The comments from community was part of the discussion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506439)

So we managed to convince Jolla about refund and that wouldn't been possible if we were all quite fanboys

Face it without community, Jolla has in Sailfish yet another SavaJe, MeeGo, Maemo, WinCE, FirefoxOS, Bada, LiMo and so many other dead mobile OS's. Community == users. Community == support.

Without making things right, Jolla would have lost the above in massive ways. You did nothing but annoy the **** out of some of us here at TMO.

You're waffling. Either you did state it (see above), got what you wanted by not being a quiet fanboy or you didn't claim it and it still happened anyway. And by now, I do not expect anything straight-forward from you other than "scam" and other misspelled adventure.

Enjoy your portion of the refund. Bring up the missing portion with Jolla. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Dave999

2016-05-31 17:24

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1506675)

Ha ha. Still waiting. But I did contact customer service today and they are looking in to it. For the record, I have no ill feelings towards Jolla and I am hoping they succeed.

Excellent news. Hope you get the Money soon. And for the record, I dont think many poeple here have ill fellings towards jolla. And I hope they refund and succeed. Me personally think jolla has improved tremendously since James joined the ship. (Nothing bad about cybette) He takes his time and answer as well as he can as often as he can.

How does it feel to be the last one to get refunded?

mscion

2016-05-31 18:12

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1506684)

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How does it feel to be the last one to get refunded?

I'll let you know once I get it!

jellyroll

2016-05-31 19:07

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1506676)