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Dave999 2012-06-19 10:11
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I working to vote for Ari Jaaksi as president. And fire Elop. What is he Ari doing now?

If everything goes according to plan Ari in, Elop out next week.

Dave999 2012-06-19 10:19
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1224104)
I working to vote for Ari Jaaksi as president. And fire Elop. What is he Ari doing now?

If everything goes according to plan Ari in, Elop out next week.
Good luck Dave

http://jaaksi.blogspot.se/

Dared 2012-06-19 11:37
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1224073)
Great day to be nokia share owner. I'm no longer in for the money but for a chance to vote Stephan "burning platform" Elop out of office. (and the money in a very very very long term ;) )
Do you know how they do the vote? Is there any way possible of getting some of the facts Tomi Ahonen has been putting out there, to the shareholders?

I actually believe that Elop has taken Nokia over the cliff now - even if he is fired i'm not sure how they can regroup - unless they get an absolute visionary like Steve Jobs. But getting Elop out of there would be a start

Then the next step would be to *somehow* get out of the microsoft deal

OVK 2012-06-19 12:28
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As I see it, the only thing that could save Nokia would be splitting it. NSN would be sold (preferably in smaller pieces), smartphone division would go to Microsoft and (still profitable, if I have right information) feature phone division would continue to be Nokia.

Dave999 2012-06-19 12:59
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Originally Posted by Dared (Post 1224137)
Do you know how they do the vote? Is there any way possible of getting some of the facts Tomi Ahonen has been putting out there, to the shareholders?

I actually believe that Elop has taken Nokia over the cliff now - even if he is fired i'm not sure how they can regroup - unless they get an absolute visionary like Steve Jobs. But getting Elop out of there would be a start

Then the next step would be to *somehow* get out of the microsoft deal
No, I have never been to a nokia meeting. You get an invitation with lots of info and a paper with all of the board of directors. If you can't participate yourself you can send someone. But I don't have enough shares to make a real impact or make the trip worth it until I get indication that major changes could be done. Selection of board members are always decided by the major shareholder before the meeting. So it's never a real voting or surprises. More like a quick approval process.

automagic68 2012-06-19 14:58
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Nokia is gonna need to bring something kinda awesome at Nokia World, either a Lumia with PureView, further maps innovation, or something we won't see coming like how they announced PureView at MWC. If they manage to do all three, then even better! Nokia World can't be a dud!

Dared 2012-06-19 16:22
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1224164)
No, I have never been to a nokia meeting. You get an invitation with lots of info and a paper with all of the board of directors. If you can't participate yourself you can send someone. But I don't have enough shares to make a real impact or make the trip worth it until I get indication that major changes could be done. Selection of board members are always decided by the major shareholder before the meeting. So it's never a real voting or surprises. More like a quick approval process.
It would be good if we could somehow get some of Tomi Ahonen's info to some major shareholders (if they haven't already seen it)

szopin 2012-06-19 18:21
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Sorry if this was posted here before:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ones-microsoft

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We know Nokia has already borrowed money, about €4.9bn, but we don't know what the small print on those bonds say. Creditors often put conditions (covenants) giving them the option to demand immediate repayment if the debtor's business deteriorates too much.
News to me and quite scary (though no links in the article where they/he knows this fact), thought Nokia had their own savings of around similar sum...

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In the meantime, Nokia chief executive Stephen Elop is "opening the second envelope" – that is, firing members of his exec team, including one who imprudently followed him from Microsoft. Next time, it'll be his turn – and too late to save the company.
Dark humour for Nokia(company) supporters, for anti-Elop crowd great news I guess.

Dave999 2012-06-19 18:37
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Originally Posted by Dared (Post 1224257)
It would be good if we could somehow get some of Tomi Ahonen's info to some major shareholders (if they haven't already seen it)
I'm sorry to say this. But the major shareholders don't care about Tomi Ahonen.

Dared 2012-06-20 00:00
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1224301)
I'm sorry to say this. But the major shareholders don't care about Tomi Ahonen.
I'm talking about the info he has - the fact Nokia was growing revenue with symbian etc.

Apart from that - does anyone know what's happening with the court case against Elop? If the people involved are big shareholders from the states, I hardly see them voting for him when the time comes


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