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Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by debudebu (Post 153829)

i didn't read this whole thread, so someone may have mentioned this already. i read in another thread that the iphone/touch can run only on app at a time. is this true? i always have skype running in the background, as my main phone. i also switch between my email, rss reader, and browser.

I read that too but I also read that it was a mis-statement. The poster opposing the idea mentioned how AIM was demo'd at the SDK event and that that application will run in the background. I'm not sure how that works. I do know that on an Iphone right now, you can have a playlist playing while you surf the web. Remains to be seen how it will work when multiple 3rd party apps are run.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by stjuste (Post 153832)

Remains to be seen how it will work when multiple 3rd party apps are run.

Kaboom! Thus falleth the infallible reputation of the vaunted iPhone-- unless, of course, Apple exerts very tight control. :D

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 153836)

Kaboom! Thus falleth the infallible reputation of the vaunted iPhone-- unless, of course, Apple exerts very tight control. :D

I believe Apple will only be allowing background processes on a case by case basis. I guess its good and bad. Keeps it stable, but makes it a pain for the developer that wants to run something in the background.

Its likely that devs who just do it willy-nilly will get denied when they try to distribute via the AppStore.

For me, I don't mind this as its my phone, and I don't want the instability of my past Windows Mobile phones (after a few app installs). So I suppose that a benefit of having a separate device, you can have unstable apps.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by Picklesworth (Post 153822)

Actually, I am not thinking about the interface at all. My point about being able to simply drag and drop the media is regarding how a platform like Maemo makes those files completely transparent; I don't really have to concern myself with what kind of audio they are, since they will probably work. I can thus export them from any app under the sun (drag and drop being a really nice way to do it, for an inter-process communication fan like myself) and expect them to work.

With an iPod, on the other hand, you don't just happen to use a manager app; you are stuck with that manager app! Yes, you can still do things in mass storage mode, but getting files to play when transfering them like that is another story, since they have to be just the right format. Inter-process communication is all about interoperability, where applications can easily integrate with each other on the idea that they share a common ground for how they work: files. With drag and drop simply carrying URIs as information, we can end up with an incredibly rich and flexible environment built simply on that simple concept, where if somebody wants something somewhere else he need only drag it there. (Unfortunately, while DnD is one of the most powerful, easy to implement and useful integration technologies we have, it requires a very strict and demanding movement, giving it a bad name and making it unfavourable for a lot of people -- particularly those with lower mouse sensitivity. We need drag and drop without the drag!).

I see you studiously avoided answering the questions I posed.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

Yes, it is stated that the SDK apps will be allowed to run only one at the time (AIM is not a SDK app, but from Apple) and if switched from will be forcefully shut down (when you receive a call for instance). However Apple can choose if an application can be allowed to run as a background process. Also the apps will be allowed to make snapshots of their userspace to be restored later or something like that.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

100,000 SDK downloads in 6 days.
http://gizmodo.com/366784/100000-app...nloaded-so-far
Does that equate to 100,000 potential developers?

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 153672)

The IT is not a phone.

The iPhone is not a true internet tablet.

yet.

Hmm. "yet" applies to IT or iPhone? :)

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 153966)

100,000 SDK downloads in 6 days.
http://gizmodo.com/366784/100000-app...nloaded-so-far
Does that equate to 100,000 potential developers?

could be, or it could just be curious eyes...

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 153291)

Soooo that would be never....

Pretty much :-)

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.

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Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 153966)

100,000 SDK downloads in 6 days.
http://gizmodo.com/366784/100000-app...nloaded-so-far
Does that equate to 100,000 potential developers?

No, that equates to 100,000 people with Macs :)
Also this article leads us to a thought that maybe some of the people are getting the SDK for the new beta 2.0(1.2) firmware...