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-   -   Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out! (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23958)

danramos 2008-09-29 21:33
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson (Post 228568)
Because Rhapsody is about taking your money, not about leaving you alone?


Maybe someone should develop a TweakUI-ish program (and put it in extras) that helps you do the 100 most common shell and gconf tweaks...
That.. is a GREAT idea. My biggest problem with the idea of dropping to the CLI to remove their crap is that it also assumes I can get root. I REALLY don't want to have to FIRST get my sister to set herself up to have root.. THEN also give her the rm.. and in all of this, hope that she (or any of my other non-tech friends with an N800--of which there are several) does not mess this up or inadvertently leave open any security holes in the process.

tso 2008-09-29 21:35
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 228512)
Seemless updates shouldn't have these kinda issues should they?
well the interaction between third party apps (that may or may not bump the version of some lib or other under the hood) can have "interesting" side effects...

im guessing this is the kind of issues a certain fruit wants to avoid...

talmage 2008-09-29 21:37
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
I'm one of the unlucky, the ones with the infinitely rebooting N800 following an update.

I also tried flashing manually using flasher 3.0 for amd64 Linux. No joy! :eek: My tablet displayed the little USB trident and flasher printed some messages but the reflash didn't take. I'm still stuck with an N800 that won't boot.

Messages below for those who care.

Quote:
talmage@scarlet:~/Desktop/ITOS-2008$ sudo ./flasher-3.0.amd64 ./RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
flasher v0.8.1 (Jan 5 2007)

Suitable USB device not found, waiting
USB device found found at bus 002, device address 030
Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1302
NOLO version 1.1.16
Version of 'sw-release': <no version>

GeneralAntilles 2008-09-29 21:38
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228566)
Why couldn't that just be in a nice easy selection for uninstall so that non-CLI people like my sister can easily uninstall it like the tutorial is?
It's an issue in the way current updates are implemented with the packaging system. See bug #3602 for some background.

Benson 2008-09-29 21:40
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Edit: Ignore me; I hadn't realized your command wrapped. (It won't do that if you use [code] tags!) The General got it right, below.

Jaffa 2008-09-29 21:40
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 228512)
Seemless updates shouldn't have these kinda issues should they?
Most of the issues in this thread seem to be users who have:
  1. Changed the way the X server works (sliderotate)
  2. Installed a new kernel or initfs
  3. Are booting from SD card
  4. Have installed powermenu
  5. ...

These things change the way the tablet works. Nokia aren't going to be able to test and support these things. It's up to the people who package these add-ons to find a way of safely reverting back to the previous behaviour if they find the world they're inhabiting gone wrong. Or to disable auto-update. Or to better inform their users.

GeneralAntilles 2008-09-29 21:40
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by talmage (Post 228573)
My tablet displayed the little USB trident and flasher printed some messages but the reflash didn't take. I'm still stuck with an N800 that won't boot.
It'd help a lot of if you used the correct flasher command.

Code:
sudo ./flasher-3.0.amd64 -F ./RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

GeneralAntilles 2008-09-29 21:41
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 228571)
That.. is a GREAT idea. My biggest problem with the idea of dropping to the CLI to remove their crap is that it also assumes I can get root. I REALLY don't want to have to FIRST get my sister to set herself up to have root.. THEN also give her the rm.. and in all of this, hope that she (or any of my other non-tech friends with an N800--of which there are several) does not mess this up or inadvertently leave open any security holes in the process.
Alternatively, just install Rhapsody then uninstall it.

yegaoo 2008-09-29 21:42
Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rok (Post 228391)
No problems so far!
The browser is really fast!

Was Flash in fullscreen (youtube) possible before? I can't remember.
Yes it did. But it was far more choppier.

codeMonkey 2008-09-29 21:47
Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out! Quite an ordeal!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 228560)
In short, this update is a disaster.
It fails because rc.d symlinks
It fails because user files
It fails because huge size

It is too big, too complex, and too invasive.
It would be much better if it would have been released as several small updates.
From the looks of it, I had most of the same issues as you on my sd-boot, but I just removed the symlinks, found the installation candidates in /var/cache/apt/archives/ apt-get -f install'ed and re-added the symlinks, and everything went smoothly and seems fine now.
Removing the symlinks and rebooting without readding them = not such a good idea since mce, tablet-browser-daemon etc are quite important.


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