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ARJWright 2009-08-19 23:54
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Originally Posted by dagwud (Post 313412)
You know what's really frustrating for me? Of course you don't. "Let me 'splain. No. There is too much. Let me sum up."

I used to be at the front of the acquisition curve! I had "it" before anyone else in the department.

I had a PalmPilot Pro - then a III - then a Vx - then an m500 just to get the SD expansion - then an m515 because Palm improved the color screen. Then I sat around for a few years before buying a Palm TX 3 years back.

Slowly, ever so slowly, I went from being "the geek with the cool new gadget" to "the old coot with the outdated hardware."

That, my friends, was a PAINFUL realization. ;)
There was an article that I did at Brighthand some months back, it was titled "Ahead and Behind at the Same Time;" as mobile technology gets to the point of being more accessible, usable, and affordable, those things that defined power users change.

Within that those is the necessity for companies to not only flesh things out (aka making it available to a wider audience), but also flesh out new areas of innovation and opportunity.

I know its sad that others have cooler gadgets that work with less pain that you; but that's when you as the user at the very edge of the curve needs to take a look at what's next and move there. Only then can the circle of tech life come back around to that point where you will be at the front, and others will be waiting for you to get the bugs out so that you don't look as cool anymore.

dagwud 2009-08-20 00:14
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313417)
I know its sad that others have cooler gadgets that work with less pain that you; but that's when you as the user at the very edge of the curve needs to take a look at what's next and move there. Only then can the circle of tech life come back around to that point where you will be at the front, and others will be waiting for you to get the bugs out so that you don't look as cool anymore.
That's a nice thought. (And I'm not being dismissive. I truly think it's a nice thought.)

But what if "what's next" doesn't provide an option to do what I need it to do? Specifically, I'm thinking about how I can't seem to find a program for Android or Maemo that does what ThinkDB did for my Palm Vx. But there are other "issues."

Users like me used to be THE marketplace. Now we're just a small part of it, and we're not economically powerful enough to really affect change. I recognize this, and can accept it. Which is probably healthy since I'm not a programmer and couldn't do anything to "fix" it myself.

But it still leaves me without an upgrade path. Although, an n900 (without cellular) and the Access Garnet Emulator could keep me in business for a few more years.

Yeah, yeah. I know. "Suck it up, you old codger." And I'm not even 40! :D

Texrat 2009-08-20 00:21
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by Cruelkix (Post 313384)
Really? I hate that crap. I always turn teh voices and sounds off. Drives me crazy. All you need is the map. Maybe a chime to tell you when a turn is coming up, but the voices, oh the voices, how I hate them. "Make a U-turn" ugh
When you have a family as distracting as mine, you will BEG for those voice directions. :D

Texrat 2009-08-20 00:25
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I've gotta eat some crow on this. : /

Wayyy back when the idea of a cell-enabled version became a really hot topic here, I urged everyone to be calm, that the odds were we would see multiple variants (ie, options) as the platform matured, and I assumed product release plans would be reasonable.

This was not part of inside info (at that point I was not getting much) but more along the lines of common sense.

Oops.

I am really, really sorry for that guys. :(

qole 2009-08-20 00:30
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 313219)
I had hoped Nokia might begin the developer device program earlier this time, before the announcement/release even. I'd like to see developers have devices in their hand quickly after the release this time. In the past there's been some awkwardness with new-device-holding users begging for fixes, tweaks, and enhancements from developers still waiting for coupons.

EDIT: As qole correctly points out below, it's a bit early for me to write Nokia off already. The device announcement hasn't come yet, and there may be plenty of time between it and the release for Nokia to run a developer device program. My apologies.
I've been thinking some more...

I think qgil has been trying to say that there might already be something going on here... He's said on a few occasions that developers who put their apps in the wiki or who show interest in getting Telepathy working in Fremantle won't regret it, and that it would be worth their while...

So developers, get your asses in gear!

pataphysician 2009-08-20 00:31
Re: First N900 Review
 
I like the device overall, but it seems like the could have fit a 4.3" screen on there without changing the dimensions, or only changing them a little, to say iphone length and width (though not depth). That would have cinched the deal for me. Most of a 4.3" screen difference to a 3.5" is in length, and there seems to some unused real estate in the length on one side.

gerbick 2009-08-20 00:58
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Although I like the device, I've lived with my current phone in one iteration or another for almost 2 years.

I used my tablet to augment the things my iPhone couldn't do, vice versa. And oddly enough, I don't like carrying around my music on my phone - kills the battery when I might actually need it.

I'm not the typical user though, not by a longshot. Hearing what level of Flash will be supported, the commitment to the platform - sorta need to hear that this will be updated at least a few times and not just one minor update then dropped.

Also, hearing what vendors will be backing this... and gotta ask. Is there not a forward facing camera?

I'm on the fence, as it stands in this iteration as a phone. But I think Nokia has done a good job.

pataphysician 2009-08-20 01:20
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 313427)
Although I like the device, I've lived with my current phone in one iteration or another for almost 2 years.

I used my tablet to augment the things my iPhone couldn't do, vice versa. And oddly enough, I don't like carrying around my music on my phone - kills the battery when I might actually need it.

I'm not the typical user though, not by a longshot. Hearing what level of Flash will be supported, the commitment to the platform - sorta need to hear that this will be updated at least a few times and not just one minor update then dropped.

Also, hearing what vendors will be backing this... and gotta ask. Is there not a forward facing camera?

I'm on the fence, as it stands in this iteration as a phone. But I think Nokia has done a good job.

There seems to be two things above the microphone, one rectanglish and above that, one round, the round could be a front facing low resolution web cam.

vkv.raju 2009-08-20 02:00
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by pataphysician (Post 313429)
There seems to be two things above the microphone, one rectanglish and above that, one round, the round could be a front facing low resolution web cam.
Proximity aka light sensor may be...

dansus 2009-08-20 02:07
Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by Jayayess1190 (Post 313281)
Two questions:

1. Is this thick? Kind of looks like it.

2. Will it be available without phone features/contract?
1) Yes, it seems a touch chubby but then the thickness and rounded corners will make it easier to type comfortably.

2) Yes, you buy it and dont put a sim in it. :rolleyes: Seemplz ;)

The 550 euros at launch which will come down to 475 euros within weeks of release, its half the price of an iPhone 3GS (899) and similar to the HTC Hero.

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