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geneven 2010-08-06 00:06

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 776193)
while I am a bit of an internet junky; I already have this forum, the Meego Forum, a third forum, Facebook, IRC, and email to keep up with.

I don't get it. Is it possible that you don't know how to use Twitter, really? Not the way I use it, anyway.

Picture this: The ground shakes. You wonder how big the quake is and whether anyone is in any danger. You search for #quake in Twitter. Instant reports from all over the place appear linked to photos of the damage and in-person comments about how it felt. Later, you may read the same reports and see the same photos in the mass media.

Now, what did I have to keep up with to do that? Or to search on #janeausten as I often do?

There is zero keeping up necessary. You can use it as rarely as you want. You don't have to send messages to anyone and you don't have to reply to them either. I guess you must find Wikipedia a real chore to keep up with also. Just think about all the articles you have to read every day just to keep up, and many on subjects that don't interest much of anyone!

gerbick 2010-08-06 00:29

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
The one thing this thread has taught me... Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are not really utilized by a lot of folks here.

If this were done via IRC, I think more would have participated.

This shows that either Nokia has missed the mark about who their target audience truly is... or something else. I'm still working on that something else.

Perhaps folks aren't that social after all around here. Something is amiss indeed though.

imperiallight 2010-08-06 00:40

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
The press have caught onto his avoidance of n900 issues altogether:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...ow.html?page=1

Quote:

Several people who are clearly fond of their N900 phones expressed their dismay at feeling abandoned. The N900 runs Maemo, an operating system Nokia developed based on Debian Linux. Earlier this year Nokia said it would merge Maemo with Moblin, an open-source operating system that Intel developed.

"You've created the supercool N900. Why are you abandoning it in terms of software support?" a user called kevinp93 asked. "I own a Nokia N900 and believe it is one of the best smartphones, but why didn't Nokia market it well?" another fan, Praveen Chand, asked.

However, Niklas Savander, head of sales and marketing for Nokia and the executive taking the questions, didn't address those or other questions about the N900.
Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter as long as they are not about the n900

gerbick 2010-08-06 00:55

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
To be honest, imperiallight; I wouldn't have anticipated any answer about that because it would have shown their hand in regards to the future of Maemo versus MeeGo, one is coming out, one is on its way out (figuratively).

And gauging folks around here... I'd bet nobody would be happy with the answer anyway. It's a touchy subject... how do you tell folks - and you might not internally agree with the decision yourself for instance - that a recently released phone in some markets will never get any support past the upcoming PR1.3 update.

If I were him, I wouldn't have addressed that unless I was crazily savvy and a wordsmith in 140 characters or less.

imperiallight 2010-08-06 01:00

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Yeah, I know I think its like opening a can of worms I guess. But someone somewhere should address customers but then again I know it wont happen either.

sachin007 2010-08-06 01:06

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Please nokia forget about symbian and the N8. Believe in meego. If meego had 50 percent of coverage of what the N8 gets ... nokia would sell by the millions

gerbick 2010-08-06 01:08

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 777259)
Please nokia forget about symbian and the N8. Believe in meego. If meego had 50 percent of coverage of what the N8 gets ... nokia would sell by the millions

This begs to question. The lack of MeeGo stuff... is it really because they don't believe in it, or mostly because it's not ready to be shown yet?

Just carrying on a convo out of curiosity.

Laughing Man 2010-08-06 01:16

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 777245)
The press have caught onto his avoidance of n900 issues altogether:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...ow.html?page=1

Needs more press though...
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 777253)
To be honest, imperiallight; I wouldn't have anticipated any answer about that because it would have shown their hand in regards to the future of Maemo versus MeeGo, one is coming out, one is on its way out (figuratively).

And gauging folks around here... I'd bet nobody would be happy with the answer anyway. It's a touchy subject... how do you tell folks - and you might not internally agree with the decision yourself for instance - that a recently released phone in some markets will never get any support past the upcoming PR1.3 update.

If I were him, I wouldn't have addressed that unless I was crazily savvy and a wordsmith in 140 characters or less.

Better to just say it and be done rather (but I've always been the type to rip off a bandaid rather than letting it fall off). I think most people know the answer by now anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 777260)
This begs to question. The lack of MeeGo stuff... is it really because they don't believe in it, or mostly because it's not ready to be shown yet?

Just carrying on a convo out of curiosity.

Probably not ready considering it's UI is still in development isn't it?

gerbick 2010-08-06 01:31

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 777264)
Probably not ready considering it's UI is still in development isn't it?

Hype doesn't need a finished product; you need to build the hype as if you're preparing a balloon to be filled. Stretch it, prepare it, then announce you're going to make a balloon animal... have people anticipate what balloon animal you're going to make... then do it.

You can either wow them by making something awesome... or blow it into a long balloon, tie the end, call it a "snake" and be done with it.

That latter one is what skeptics will expect. The amazing one is what the fans will expect. Meanwhile, if you hit closer to the middle - like a nice balloon dog or something, you'll hit more folks that way.

Nokia needs to stretch the balloon, announce they're making a balloon animal... and they have to do something with that balloon.

Thus... hype. And the finished product, I hope it is nice.

arcticrobot 2010-08-06 03:00

Re: Nokia exec Niklas Savander welcomes your questions on Twitter
 
Forget about Maemo. This Niklas guy didn't even answer simple question: will future(not even present) Nokia phones support OS upgrades when new releases come. Sym^3 to Sym^4 and so on. This or similar question was asked many times by me and other users. He completely ignored important questions and instead was doing what he is employed to: sales and marketing.
-What phone are you using
-I’m rockin’ a @Nokia N8 prototype and I LOVE IT!

And then at the end he mentioned how he placed bets with somebody that he will have 1500 followers this day on twitter and I gave up. What a waste of my time. And that followers thingy was retweeted the most by participants.


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