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kureyon 2011-02-16 03:27
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 947551)
There are certainly shortcomings that I don't think ever will get addressed related to the extendability of certain OS components that the n900 had, but I digress.
Now do you see the eloquent truth in deyons statement?

gerbick 2011-02-16 03:29
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 947665)
... is lame from birth.
Devil's advocate here... so regard me accordingly.

However, what are you comparing it to? If you say Maemo, I've owned three Maemo devices and they were hack worthy, but not mass market worthy - not that I think WP7 is there either, just stating the obvious.

And if you mean MeeGo, at least WP7 came out. So I guess I have to ask what are you comparing WP7 in such a negative light?

rm42 2011-02-16 03:36
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 947551)
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WP7 also doesn't support many modern hardware- and GUI-requirements:
copy+paste, multi-core-app-CPUs, multitasking, ....should I go on?
Do you really think, they will get those fixed in few months?
Yes. They're slated for release in a fall update. Link.
The Microsofties are at it again. Those naughty boys.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/19111...o_reality.html

somedude 2011-02-16 04:09
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 946778)
you don't seem to have noticed global financial crisis either....
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Originally Posted by somedude (Post 946679)
Current exchange rate of NOK is US $8.84 and guess what in July 2010 it was US $8.02 and on May 2009 it was US $9.64. I still cannot see the correlation between Elop's statement and their share price.
:cool:
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hawk 2011-02-16 05:10
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I like the idea that they are proposing, but if they cannot provide a financial projection there is no way they are going to succeed with this. As someone else has pointed out, its all about ROIs, and unless they can show that their vision and execution would result in better ROI, its going to be a tough sell.

Not to mention IF they do this, there is going to be a huge market backlash again, because Nokia is once again changing directions after making an announcement, wouldn't inspire much confidence in the company.

Benson 2011-02-16 05:40
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87 (Post 947535)
This question is the perfect example of the mindset of this community. WP7 isn't linux. Its not about whether it has the same features as linux, its that IT WORKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY. There IS NO "filesystem" as it exists in linux. There is only isolated storage for each app. Bash is useless in this sort of environment, because it underlies a way of thinking about OS's that simply doesn't fit with the way WP7 works as an operating system.
(OK, not knowing anything about WP7 internals, I'll take your word for it.)

IOW, WP7 is a broken OS -- or, to put it less caustically and more precisely, WP7 is an anachronism, a step decades backward in the evolution of computing. Even the iPhone, from version one (with the deja vu-ful lack of basic features that every other OS has), ran a skeletized modern OS (complete with filesystem) under the hood, with its insanely protective restrictions on data access applied over top of that.


Here, kid, take this nickel and get yourself a real OS...

ossipena 2011-02-16 06:01
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by somedude (Post 947682)
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I stick to my statement, it seems that you didn't even understand that.

exo 2011-02-16 06:11
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 947699)
IOW, WP7 is a broken OS
It's not broken, it's just different. The idea is that sandboxing applications means that users don't have to worry about what a particular application could be doing or what data it has access to, just what services, and these can be specifically allowed/disallowed.

Sure this is not good for us geeks, and the alternative is for everything to be open and allow us to study the sourcecode to understand what the app is doing before it is run but the fact is the vast majority of users prefer a sandboxed environment where they can - at least for the most part - trust that a rogue application can't mess with their system or data.

In the end the promise that Nokia will make a MeeGo device is enough for me. It means that we get an open OS that we can do whatever we want with it and the company remains profitable by selling to market demands.

ossipena 2011-02-16 06:21
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by alcalde (Post 947369)
Ok, I love horse racing so I think I can carry this metaphor far. :) Symbian used to race in stakes races(smart phones) but has gotten very old and is now relegated to cheap claiming races and can no longer earn more than it costs for stable space, feed and vet bills.
err... you haven't looked the nokias financial at all, have you?

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-16 07:43
Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by somedude (Post 947682)
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It's really simple man, go to google, type in "nokia stock" and look at it. It's never dropped that fast since april last year when "smartphone competition hits nokia, shares dive".
It's not normal, it's triggered by the news. Do yourself a favor and don't become an investor if you still don't get it :)


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