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gerbick 2011-02-27 03:20

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 956177)
It's the truth. Symbian is (was) the heart of Nokia concerning smartphones. Maemo was a distraction that went ugly with MeeGo. The proof is in the pudding.

Symbian was their bread winner. Maemo was a project that grew and the management have only shown how they didn't know how to market it nor capitalize on a ready and willing community until much, much later - ITT was already there, TMO was the transition of when they started to get what most knew years prior.

MeeGo was the initial push into making those parts they did get into something they could market.

You know the rest... but to say Nokia didn't like Maemo/MeeGo, I'm going to have to ask for proof and not speculation.

bsd1101 2011-02-27 18:14

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
I've had n900 since its release 2 years ago. I've thanked my friend who told me about this phone because I love it so damn much. If n950 has a keyboard and is good I will get it no question.

kralde 2011-02-28 11:58

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
its true that the nokia n900 was launched like a "new brand generation of mobile computing" and "the future of nokia" but that is not true nowadays. instead of that, we have a mobile, supported by this community, and we have a device object of laughs of the rest of the users saying things like "If it doesnt have market-impact, it must be a crap" or "only 1700 apps? haha! i have 99999 that i never use!"
for me, nokia is the manufacter of the devices but I wont never expect some kind of support by them. Nokia is too worried about their symbian powefull phones!

AndyNokia232 2011-02-28 16:16

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xalted13 (Post 956708)
I've had n900 since its release 2 years ago. I've thanked my friend who told me about this phone because I love it so damn much. If n950 has a keyboard and is good I will get it no question.

I would say 'same here' but if the rumors and info on the web are to be believed, the N950 will be a full touchscreen (a la N8). Not sure if I can go for that. The awesome hw keyboard was one of my main reasons for getting the N900 in the first place. If the N8's touchscreen reviews are anything to go by, I'm not all that excited by the N900's successor anymore. Shame :(

ca101d 2011-02-28 16:47

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
I have similar feelings about a touch only successor. If this was not intended as a mass market phone, then why not have a hw keyboard? Users liked it in the N900.

mikelima 2011-02-28 16:47

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
For myself, even if the new direction for Nokia is a big disappointment, I would not exclude I could buy the new device. I am not worrying too much about the keyboard -- while I am using the keyboard a lot on the 900, I preferred tapping wth the pen on the 810, I am not sure why.

The problem is, my N900 is still almost new, I just have bought it in last July, when I felt the price was affordable, and I plan on keeping using it for a couple of years, still... especially if MeeGo gets released for it, and I get to tinker with it too.

So... I may get it, if it lasts enough in the market to let me buy it in a couple of years, or so.

9000 2011-02-28 17:25

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 954393)
MS wins even if Nokia couldn't sell single one WP-phone ever, because it has played Meego and Qt-development down. Open source platforms are a real thread to Microsoft.

True. Especially when Microsoft does not sell WP license in individual basis, but under MOLP, a volume discount agreement.

It's not like Microsoft would be hurt in any way if Nokia sold only 1m phone under a 5m MOLP (sales forecast as announced).

9000 2011-02-28 17:43

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 956044)
Well, Microsoft currently tells, WP8 will be ready in the latter half of 2012. So even if Elop said "we seem to need to wait another 12 months for Meego" in his burning-platform speech, still it would be faster to get Meego high end device out than WP8 high end device out.

And WP7 is not suitable for high end devices, because it is not thread safe and cannot be run on dual-core platforms.

So, yes it will be kind of funny, but also should be embarrassing to Elop. Of course Elop may want to sabotage Meego-development further to make sure it won't be ready until and of 2012 and then he has excuse to cancel it altogether.


LOL that's what we called osbourne effect, that's, in short, unintended consequence of the announcement of a future product ahead of its availability and its impact upon the sales of the current product.

I don't think Ballmer would do it 'unintentionally', as 'osbourne effect' is so well-known among US corporations.

Well done Ballmer. :D

pataphysician 2011-02-28 19:56

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 957462)
LOL that's what we called osbourne effect, that's, in short, unintended consequence of the announcement of a future product ahead of its availability and its impact upon the sales of the current product.

I don't think Ballmer would do it 'unintentionally', as 'osbourne effect' is so well-known among US corporations.

Well done Ballmer. :D

It doesn't really fit as a classic osbourne effect, as the future WinPhone product isn't really perceived as being a better device to wait for, at best it is perceived as possibly a horizontal move.

There is also the reverse osborne, where the discontinued item is perceived as better and so sells very well.

Neither fit this situation exactly, as the perception that the Symbian and Maemo/Meego ecosystems are essentially dead to Nokia, will be the bigger push for people not to buy. Though there could be the Palm OS 5 effect, where it remained popular for years despite there not being any real possibility in sight of a true successor OS with backward compatibility in an actual device, because people were used to it and it had a very large application selection. This I guess could hold true for Symbian.

txh 2011-03-01 04:31

Nokia's MeeGo device will be called N950, will be out this year!
 
Watch the Video here. This is also the source of this post:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokias_meego...-news-2372.php
http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/11...n950/thumb.jpg
Despite the shift towards Windows Phone 7, Nokia will still ship a MeeGo device this year. It's going to be the successor to the Nokia N900 and will be called the N950. We don't have a photo of the device yet, but Nokia gave reassurances that they are committed to MeeGo, Symbian, Qt and S40 too.

At Nokia's Developer Day, Nokia's CTO Rich Green gave an extensive talk about the future of current Nokia platforms, MeeGo included. He said that they're working hard on the N950 and have come up with some "very elegant" hardware and interesting UI.

That's all we have on the Nokia N950 - the Nokia N9 (which was rumored as the coming MeeGo device) might have been canceled and Nokia showed absolutely no new devices at the MWC.

Green assured the attending developers that the Nokia N950 is well-stocked as a developer platform and says "we'll see how that goes". It sounds like the N950 is aimed more towards devs than the mass market user (not surprising since MeeGo was re-targeted towards long-term market exploration).

Nokia's strategy still relies on Qt development for both Symbian and MeeGo and pushing forward with Java on Series 40, so work on those platforms continues. S40 will be getting a new Ovi Browser that aims to bring mobile Internet connectivity to hundreds of millions of people.


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