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GrimyHR 2012-05-04 09:25
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1201518)
It's funny - here in Poland, CE is purely "declarative" certificate, i.e. producer can mark goods as CE without any "compliance tests", but marking something as CE mean that issuer held responsibility, if device turns out to be dangerous even if used properly, etc.

Are You sure it is so strict in Your country? BTW, can't You just get it as "private" gift? ;)
yes, it is a rule made by HAKOM(croatian agency for mobile communications) and they make the rules for importing mobile phones, computers, tablets and any other device with any kind of networking, even with CE i will still have to pay them 50$ for certification for our market(for personal use), for real certification i should pay 200$, and that is without import fees and taxes, gifts can be up to 50$ in value and croatian customs officers have become really rigorous when tablets are in question

stlpaul 2012-05-04 21:04
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1201347)
They're using C71+ with different WiFi module - i hope that it's better, not worse ;)

As for build quality - thanks a lot for detailed info. Just keep in mind, that C71 (and C71+) is generic name for tablet with similar hardware, yet manufactured by countless factories in China. build quality (and "peripherals" like screen, case, etc) vary *a lot* between factories.
I have specifically the Zenithink C71 "upad" revision 2m. (512M of RAM, 4G of NAND version). Visually it looks identical to spark/vivaldi photos (white reverse/red sides/black obverse). outside of the device is attractive and seems sturdy. Inside is where the mystery lies. :)

Estel 2012-05-04 22:44
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
AFAIK, they're using (now) version with 1GB RAM, but it doesn't matter - parts used by factory that produces it is everything, when it comes to materials/build quality.

Long time ago, I've messed with - for times they were introduced - revolutionary and cheap mp4 players based on Ramos design. Despite looking identical and having same hardware infrastructure, there were ones acting like total trash, and "almost" identical ones robust ans reliable (in Poland, Pentagram adapted them as Eon Cineo). Everything made from the same design!

@GrimyHR
Don't take it personally, but after reading it, I'm glad I don't live in Croatia :eek: And of course, they're opening every single overbroad parcel? Maybe someone can send it to You as damaged, with, I don't know, unsoldered battery (or any other thing, that render device unusable for random customs office's noob, but easy to fix)? Then, it would be suitable to enter <50$ area.

/Estel

PMaff 2012-05-21 16:22
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1202046)
AFAIK, they're using (now) version with 1GB RAM, but it doesn't matter - parts used by factory that produces it is everything, when it comes to materials/build quality.

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/Estel
I see here:
http://shop.open-slx.com/product.php?id_product=19
that it costs 236,81EUR.

Does this mean it is on the market finally?
Sites like http://geizhals.at/de do not show it.

GrimyHR 2012-05-21 19:12
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
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Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 1210285)
I see here:
http://shop.open-slx.com/product.php?id_product=19
that it costs 236,81EUR.

Does this mean it is on the market finally?
Sites like http://geizhals.at/de do not show it.
what now? where are those 200€ that it was told it would cost? where did that extra 40€ come from?

Kangal 2012-05-22 04:27
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
It has it listed as Amlogic 8726-M.
I'm guessing this is the same as the AML 8726 MX:
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/late...core-1568.html
http://bbs.1pad.cn/thread-45666-1-1.html

Which is a 40nm dual-core Cortex A9 clocked at 1GHz, but can be overclocked upto 1.5GHz....pretty much on-par with the Tegra2, but weaker than the TI 4430/Exynos.
And it comes with a halved Mali 400. So that its 2-core instead of 4 but it can still (just) push out 1080p.

I used to think it was based on the Allwinner A10 (which is documented and opensource); a 1.5GHz Cortex A8 (built on 50nm) with a Mali-400 (4-core).

So have they upgraded the SoC as well as the RAM?
At those specs, barebones Linux would behave smoothly...but it still is overpriced, should be $200 and not $300 as listed. And maybe a better TFT-LCD screen 1024x600 instead of WVGA, Wifi N, 8GB SSD so that the OS doesn't need trimming.

Estel 2012-05-22 09:48
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1210370)
what now? where are those 200€ that it was told it would cost? where did that extra 40€ come from?
Those infos are wrong and outdated. Internal storage is 8GB already, and 1GB of RAM is confirmed thing, not 512 MB as listed on this site. +, it's not available to purchase yet.

For all intents and purposes, please use only...
http://opentablets.org/
...as a source of informations regarding Vivaldi.

/Estel

PMaff 2012-05-30 08:43
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1210370)
what now? where are those 200€ that it was told it would cost? where did that extra 40€ come from?
If it is 8GB instead of 4GB then the extra 40EUR are ok.
Heck, even for 4GB the 240 would be ok, if I can buy a Linux
tablet instead of the usual Android/Apple stuff. ;-)

sulu 2012-05-30 09:10
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
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Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 1214831)
Heck, even for 4GB the 240 would be ok, if I can buy a Linux
tablet instead of the usual Android/Apple stuff. ;-)
How much "Linux" the OS on the Vivaldi will be remains to be seen.
The main problem of the Vivaldi is that you can't just install your own operating system since the device is not completely run by FLOSS because to compile the FLOSS mali graphics driver [1][2] you need the Driver Development Kit (DDK) which is only available under the (apparently) proprietary ARM commercial license.
I've searched for the license text but couldn't find it anywhere. Does somebody know where to obtain it or have a copy of it to share or tell us what's written in it?

Similar restrictions seem to apply to virtually any ARM device on the market (e.g. including Raspberry PI) and for me that's a mayor show stopper.

[1] http://www.malideveloper.com/develop...ce-drivers.php
[2] http://www.malideveloper.com/develop...ay-drivers.php

GrimyHR 2012-05-30 09:36
Re: new, open source Linux tablet, 7" with kde plasma !!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 1214831)
If it is 8GB instead of 4GB then the extra 40EUR are ok.
Heck, even for 4GB the 240 would be ok, if I can buy a Linux
tablet instead of the usual Android/Apple stuff. ;-)
lol, 4gb sd card is worth around 5€ and the original price is extreme even on 200€(without free shipping) since this tablet originally costs 100€ with free shipping included
if this tablet ever comes out and really goes anywhere(that means strong active community and constant development) ill buy the original version(120$ one with android), flash their linux image on it and donate 25-50$ to the team as that is a more reasonable amount


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