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Estel 2012-05-30 23:21

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
council will be pleased to request putting CC banner, as soon as you find appropriate one. BTW, something tells me, that qwazix will like to prepare one for CC :)

/Estel

Helmuth 2012-05-31 13:54

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Removing all categories sounds very drastically to me.

What about creating only two categories?

games and no games

The games categorie was the biggest one last year if I remember correctly.

Wonko 2012-05-31 16:03

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Just to add a little to the discussion of categories vs. no categories:

I just had a look at the results of last years coding competition.
The number of valid votes per category varies from 51 to 96.

When using no categories an effect of this could be, as beresk_let already mentioned, that submissions get overrun by other submissions that simple happen to fall into a more popular category.
E.g., could the top placed submission in an unpopular category never win as it gets overrun by even the last placed submissions in a popular category.
On the other side, this may in fact reflect the absolute "popularity" of submissions overall and not just relatively to each category.


Combining submissions grouped in categories with a single overall voting imho is a bad solution as it gives the impression that categories are important whereas they don't.

Similarly, I consider a "pre-selection" bad as well as this involves some "elitist"/"privilidged" board to meet decisions and exclude submissions on it's behalf. Imho the election of winners should be entirely up to the community and not be (event partly) influenced by some other authority.


So, from my perspective, it boils down to the question of categories vs. no categories. There are reasons for each variant. The most prevalent, from my point of view, is that an overall voting would really reflect the absolute popularity of an app. On the other hand, this results in unpopular application fields being entirely overrun by popular ones.

Another, addmittedly theoretic result of using an overall category is that, as far as my understanding of the voting process we use goes, we would need votes for at least 25 applications. These do not need to be a single vote but all people must have voted in total for at least 25 applications in order to ensure that an order amongst participants can be established to distribute all available devices (This gets even worse if we consider additional prices like money etc.).
E.g., imagine there are only 10 popular apps that receive votes and other apps do not receive votes. Then we could easily establish a ranking between these 10 apps. However, the remaining apps would all share the same rank as they are all placed last. In this situation it would be impossible to determine the remaining winners.
This is admittedly a very theoretic consideration and is also only as far as my understanding of our voting process goes. As we never did a similar voting with such a high number of candidates we do not have any experience from past votings.


These are my, more or less, two cents on this topic.

qgil 2012-05-31 17:32

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
It would be good to have a link to http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...i/Apps_Missing visible somewhere for all participants. Some might find useful to find inspiration based on needs declared by users. The content of that wiki page comes from the thread What apps are you missing for the Nokia N9?

(Sorry if this has been discussed before, I haven't gone through the entire thread.)

qwazix 2012-05-31 18:32

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1215260)
council will be pleased to request putting CC banner, as soon as you find appropriate one. BTW, something tells me, that qwazix will like to prepare one for CC :)

/Estel

Please check and comment on the relevant thread

zehjotkah 2012-05-31 19:41

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 1215585)
It would be good to have a link to http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...i/Apps_Missing visible somewhere for all participants. Some might find useful to find inspiration based on needs declared by users. The content of that wiki page comes from the thread What apps are you missing for the Nokia N9?

(Sorry if this has been discussed before, I haven't gone through the entire thread.)

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_codi...ation_proposal ;)

Mitrandir 2012-05-31 20:36

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Hello,

I have my application published in Nokia Store for a half of year. Can I also submit it to coding competition?

Estel 2012-05-31 23:41

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 1215585)
It would be good to have a link to http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...i/Apps_Missing visible somewhere for all participants. Some might find useful to find inspiration based on needs declared by users. The content of that wiki page comes from the thread What apps are you missing for the Nokia N9?

(Sorry if this has been discussed before, I haven't gone through the entire thread.)

Please don't forget that CC isn't biased to Harmattan - at least, I don't perceive it like that, and hope for many Fremantle proposals/winners. Or, even more likely, multiplatform (Fremantle/Harm/Mer, or at least, Fremantle/Mer - subjective opinion) ones.

/Estel

polarbear 2012-06-01 02:08

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
@SD69

Your link to the wiki in the first post is missing a slash between the org and Maemo.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_coding_competition_2012

kojacker 2012-06-01 08:51

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qwazix has come through with some designs for the competition banner, of the two proposed i think the one attached below looks best - what do you all think?

I think we should grab it :D


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