Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Oops, I did have one bug in it. Hopefully the one I found is what made it not work for you. I'm going to try and push a new version out

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

What I do for my screenshots I post is I blur or black out the numbers.

I looked into it. If you get the vertical scrollbar before the horizontal, it work wraps correctly, otherwise it wants to scroll off the screen. Quite odd I'd say. Could you file a bug on this and i'll look into it (or maybe end up filing one against GTK)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

1.0.7-12 doesn't fix the log in problem - same error, can't log in. Maybe we need to delete the file that saves our user name and password?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Look a couple posts up to my response to qole who also reported on this issue. 1.0.7-13 is built and is awaiting being put in extras-devel

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

sorry, I jumped the gun. But no luck with 1.0.7-13 either. Still failed log in.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I see that the vast majority of people have no problem running this application but some do. Could it simply be that there is a conflict between Dialcentral and some other custom installed application/hack?
With such an open system I would think that could be a possibility.
Maybe back up, re-flash and install just Dialcentral and see if it now works?

Two little requests of my own:
I've used Dialcentral for a week+ now and it is really good.

The only things that I still have to go back to the google.com/voice site for now are;

- Listening to voicemails left.
The transcripts are often, for me, not accurate enough and I need to actually listen to the voice mails.
I would love for there to be a feature w/in DC that would let me do that right there

- Separate SMS and voicemail transcripts.
Maybe instead of a 'Messages' button have one named 'SMS' and one named 'Voicemails'.

I feel bad asking for features in an application that is already great but well, IF you would consider any of my requests down the road that'd be great too :)

Oh and one BUG/Issue:
- I have a Skype number set up as the 'call-back' number.
Today I tried to call from the DC's keypad. The person on the other side 'saw' my incoming call but there was never a voice connection.

I tried both with Skype open and closed on the tablet.

It's a minor thing as I of course can call from Skype..but it would just be convenient to be able to use the 'Dial' button in DC to call back using a Skype number.

Is this a know limitation/issue?

Lastly:
Is there a way to open up replying to SMS messages by double-tapping on the message? As it is now I have to select it and the press Enter to get to the reply screen.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

*sigh* Things would work better if I actually paid attention to my code and so I could know whether to apply my login hack in right place. I was too eager to get it in that I copy and pasted it into a part of the code that is always never hit. I've changed that and am finishing up on some tweaks and then I'll get a newer version up

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Luckily people have been very cooperative in helping me fix these issues rather than just throwing their hands up in the air and walking away. I would highly discourage reflashing to fix issue because it just masks an issue rather than fixing it. I have gone without ever reflashing my n810. As for my 770 I might have done it once to fix an issue but the rest of the time its been to jump between OS version.

In these cases it wouldn't. The two most recent faults are

• Google slowly rolled out an update. Some users saw a change in login behavior and others didn't. This was confirmed by logs people generated for me.
• For certain users Google is giving them a javascript redirect. Again this is confirmed by logs. I have a theory why this is happening. When I first added support for GoogleVoice (on top of GrandCentral support) it would randomly redirect from mobile versions of pages to desktop version and for speed I rely on the mobile version.

Including voicemail text was a compromise I made way back when due to not even wanting to deal with streaming audio especially with a lot of other issues I'm trying to resolve or improve.

Go ahead and request an enhancement. Maybe someday in the feature I or some other adventuresome person will get to it.

Awww, I considered that a very clever UI idea. I'm not sure how other people feel about it to know if this is a majority feeling but I kind of like them together. One issue that can be run into is adding an extra tab might drop the size of the tabs too much, I'm not sure.

Again you can always file an enhancement request and we could use that to try and gauge people's interest.

I always feel guilty for how few of my ideas for different applications are implemented but I really like to see things polished rather than abandoned and with the explosion in the number of users I've definitely gotten a good share of positive suggestions for polish.

When you say "no voice connection" do you mean that you never got the callback to your skype number to pick up or? Or you pick up the call and neither of you can hear each other? If you never get the callback, does it work from GoogleVoice webpage? With a desktop version of Skype open?

What version of Dialcentral are you using? For one build in the 1.0.7 series, I changed the way selections work to cut down on taps but the lack of UI response drove people to have me revert it.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hey Epage,
I'm back!

For SMS/Voicemail separation, how about an option like you do for contacts. At the top, let it be selectable for sms, voice mail, or BOTH.

For voice mail playback, can you somehow scrape the link to the voice mail so it is launchable though Dialcentral? Maybe not stream the audio through DC, but allow it to launch your browser to listen to it.

Also is there any way to make the downloading of contacts in the login process optional? For the most part I use DC for SMS receive/reply. While it doesn't take long to download the contacts, for the most part it is unnecessary for some users. I rarely change my contacts as I assume many others are the same way. Can you somehow cache the contacts to a local file, and only update it with a refresh within the application. It will speed up the login process and eliminate a redundant process (for me at least).

Better yet, maybe a selectable option for the user to select their "home screen" when they launch the application. So if you are a texter like me, opening the messages tab on the boot.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Yeah, sorry about that I was too hasty in getting the fix in that I didn't pay attention to where I put it which ended up in a place that is never hit (dead code).

1.0.7-14 should now have it in the right place. Its already in diablo extras-devel but I just barely pushed it to the build queue for fremantle till right now because I forgot to hit a button before heading out.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Heh, I deleted my post because I saw that you had already mentioned you'd found the fix above... But you obviously were already replying to me... Now that's developer dedication!

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Any word from those having login issues if 1.0.7-14 helped? (fremantle might take a little longer, I forgot to click a button before leaving

That is a possibility, file an enhancement request :)

I'll have to think about how I'd best like to integrate this but its a possibility. I recommend filing an enhancement request so I don't lose track of it.

What I did several full releases ago was it remembers what contact list you last viewed and it automatically switches to it on login. I could look into making it more delay loaded?

What I did for myself way back when was if your contacts really change that infrequently, then export your contacts to CSV and put them in "~/.dialcentral/contacts". I have thought about caching more information on startup/shutdown though. Please file an enhancement request so I don't forget.

I have contemplated remembering the last viewed tab and switching to it on startup. That sound like it would?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I was just about to post that it is all working now...

But it isn't. :(

I successfully log in, and I can see my account info and my calling history, but when I actually try to make a call, either from the dialpad or from the history tab, I get a "login failed" notice.

So close, yet...

UPDATE: Diablo gives the error, but not Fremantle. Curiouser and curiouser...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

And hast thou slain the login bug?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
Oh frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!

I'm chortling in my joy. I just needed to delete the ~/.dialcentral directory and everything is working in both Diablo (my primary Dialcentral device) and Fremantle.

I'll go vote up v14 for Fremantle.

EDIT: oh, not in Extras-testing... Nevermind...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I'll wait one day to see for any major issues and then push it to Fremantle extras-testing and Diablo extras.

Whahoooo! Sorry it took so long.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

i don't have login issues with that version ,but i cannot send sms, i do receive it though.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

What do you see? an error? nothing?

What tab did you open the SMS Entry dialog from?

Could you provide a copy of the log (~/.dialcentral/dialcentral.log)?

I just did some testing and didn't see any issues but most of the issues lately I haven't been able to see. Hopefully we can work together to get this resolved.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Edit: Epage after restart my table Everything working fine now even sendind sms from the messages tab....Thanks keep the good work!

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

epage, it's working great now - no log in problems. Thanks, this is a really slick application!

(qole, I had to log in, select the call back number and time and then close and reopen the application - I think I remember this from a previous version too - then it works fine)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Your song doesn't rhyme very well. :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

1.0.7-14 logs in for me! Thanks for all your help getting this working :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Thanks for all the feedback. I've gone ahead and promoted 1.0.7-14 to Diablo's extras and Fremantle's extras-testing.

If you have a n900, please try it out and vote on it!

• Sped up various login cases
• Added descriptions to the callback numbers
• Collapsed conversations in the messages tab
• Give access to all of a contacts numbers when launching dialog from Recent or Messages tabs
• UI Tweak: Added more login status notifications
• UI Tweak: When no characters are entered, you can't send a text
• UI Tweak: Trying to consolidate dialogs by combining phone selection and SMS entry
• UI Tweak: Removed "Select" button from SMS Dialog
• UI Tweak: Increased the size of the SMS dialog
• UI Tweak: Disable "Dial" when a text has started to be entered
• UI Tweak: Move the sms history scroll bars around the whole sms conversation, giving more room to see with
• UI Tweak: Trying to be clearer by switching the login dialog from "Close" to "Cancel"
• UI Tweak: Remove auto-cancel of login after X attempts
• Bug Fix: Expanded the types of the Enter key that are supported for going to full screen
• Bug Fix: Random people were reporting login issues
• Bug Fix: Hardened against issues with grabbing possible callback numbers
• Bug Fix: Fremantle GTK doesn't allow TreeView rows to be selected, so row-activated handlers have to read their path
• Bug Fix: Fremantle PyMaemo doesn't provide a function Mer PyMaemo does, created a hack to be workable on both
• Bug Fix: Once PyMaemo supports thumb button sizes, setting that for all of the random buttons
• Bug Fix: When debugging hildonization, dialogs weren't closing
• Bug Fix: Not properly hildonizing some code
• Bug Fix: Attempting a hack to fix redirect issues for people
• Debugging: Improved logging output
• Debugging: Printing page when can't get a callback number
• Debugging: Included stuff to create all the debug files

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Just grabbed latest version 1.0.7-14.

No new problems from earlier release.

Texting long sentences is still difficullt to manage.

I would much prefer removing the whole horizontal scroll bar and go back to simple text wrapping within the window.

Also, could you respond to a message using hildon keyboard?

You'll have a better understanding on the additional scrolling needed when using the virtual keyboard.

Other than that, it's looking good. :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

The problem is that it is set to word wrap. I played with it in different ways to characterize when it will bring up scrollbars and when it won't. Please file me a bug on this and I possibly will end up filing a bug on GTK over this issue.

Note if I remove the scrollbars it will just extend the text to off the screen.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

It is an excerpt of a longer piece ;)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

This is running very well on my N900 now. So happy. :D

Tim

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Great to hear! Just be sure to reflect that in your thumbs up

I noticed that they have fixed up the alarmd stuff for maemo 5 so that will be on the list of next things to implement in 1.0.8

I'd really like to figure out is why the Messages Tab doesn't look like right

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

For sure. I've definitely fallen behind since returning from Amsterdam.

Tim

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

"Of course! you gonna fall behind with all the party, women and marihuana out there, now back to the real life!

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

For those that are interested, I moved all the enhancement requests and bug reports to b.m.o

See the bug list

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Quick suggestion.

After sending a text message, could you have DC immediately refresh messages right afterwards?

If you have notifications on, it makes little sense to be notified 1 minute later that you sent a message, plus you have to manually refresh messages anyway to remove the blinking light.

Thanks epage!

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Some other 'bug' or 'feature' I just wanted to get your thoughts on:

* When I type an SMS on my N810 using the hw keyboard in fullscreen mode the fullscreen toggle button cdoesnt work anymore
- also the directional keys on the dpad doesnt 'stay' within the edit window, pressing up too many times moves me up into the received sms list,
- also the edit window keeps changing from displaying 2 and 4 rows of text in what seems to be a random way (for long messages)

* it seems to forget my call-back number after a device reset.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I was thinking the same thing today when i caught myself refreshing manually after every sent message.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Since this is the beginning of dev on 1.0.8 I highly recommend not upgrading to extras-devel for a while

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Sounds reasonable, could you file an enhancement?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I'll play around with this and see what I can reproduce.

Expected behavior that I don't have control over.

Are you referring to the fact that when your message history + edit box is smaller than the window, the edit box does a fill screen?

I'm curious what behavior you would prefer, for it to fill the screen or have dead space?

I assume a reboot and not a complete wipe of the system? I'll look into it and get back to you on that.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Okay, just signed up for a Bugzilla account and submitted my first enhancement request.

Looks like I'm the only one who filed such a notification as a top, high priority and in getting this fixed under a Windows machine. *lol*

Sorry, on the next bug or feature request I submit, I'll try to tone it down a bit. :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

:)Feature Request:

Speed Dial

(I thought I had seen this or similar requested before but a quick thread search did not turn up anything...)

Add a Speed Dial Tab (or add to keypad)

Tab would contain 3x3 4x4 ? buttons and a Call Back # Over-ride toggle)

Each button would have the following parameters (stored locally)
Button Name
Phone number to call
Preferred callback number

Usage:
Open Speed Dial Tab (maybe make it selectable as the default on open)
Select one of the buttons
call is placed using preset callback number

Or
Open tab
Select over-ride & choose callback number
Select one of the buttons
call is placed using selected over-ride callback number


Anyway keep up the great work :D

Thanks
Matt

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Sorry if this has been previously addressed. When I first start dialcentral on my N800, It seems to login fine, I can retrieve history and messages, but if I try to send an SMS, I get a login error at the bottom of the screen.
The only way to make it work is to close and reopen the application. simply re-logging in does not work.

So basically everytime I open dialcentral I have to close and reopen it or I cannot send SMSes.

Anyone else seeing that?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Could you report this on b.m.o with severity set to "Enhancement"? Its great to work out ideas here but I also don't want them lost with time.