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Well I did try to time the decompression again

Just a quick question. Do you think it might be possible to install hildon-desktop in Easy-Debian ?

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How do you make LXDE look like this? It looks completely different.

http://blog.lxde.org/?p=624

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This is the default look of LXDE.

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Hehe oops. I mean can easy debian look like that? Or does it look the way it does because it saves resources and works faster without all the eye candy.

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I am pretty sure if you play around in preferences (openbox configuration manager for example), put the task bar on the lower part of the screen and change the background you will end up with something similar.

Or maybe there is a magic "reset configuration" button somewhere but I am unaware of the existance of such thing in LXDE.

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andyph666:

What "eye candy" are you talking about?

I changed the appearance of LXDE to look like a cross between Diablo and Fremantle. A bar across the bottom or top doesn't make sense to me with the aspect ratio of the N900's screen. Putting the bar down the side works better, I think.

Also, the dark wallpaper works better with the dark theme.

As Mandor says, all these things can be modified to your liking.

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Mandor: don't bother messing with Hildon stuff in Debian. That leads only to tears and headaches. Your only hope with Hildon stuff is to kill the Maemo hildon-desktop and start the chroot Hildon desktop instead.

See my Easy Mer project for some of the problems with trying to run an alternate Hildon environment...

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I had easy deb chroot and today ther was an update available- easy debian. So I downloaded it but it faled to install. I've uninstalled it and try to install easy debian again but it faills to install. Now I don't have my opennoffice which is very important for me. What to do now?

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fw190 and others who see Easy Debian appear on their updates list: It isn't a good idea to download updates from Extras-devel without a bit of research, but if you do run into this problem, you can fix it by updating Easy Chroot (0.2.7) first followed by Easy Debian (0.9.40).

The other option is to disable Extras-devel repository and install Easy Debian from Extras.

What's breaking? I'm moving the icon for closing the chroot to Easy Debian, since Easy Chroot is a command-line thing and shouldn't have any menu icons.

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It failed to install for me as well but openoffice and everything still works. Do we just leave it and do nothing?

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Everything is working just fine for me.

Hum guys how did you update ? Did you update through the Maemo Application Manager manually, meaning by clicking on the first package, then updated it; clicking on the second package and updated it ?

DO NOT enable Extras-devel then try the two solutions presented bellow. It will update all packages on your N900 !!!

Here is a proper way to update : just ask the App. Manager to install both at the same time. You have to click on the upper menu to do that ("install all updates" if memory serves well).

Or :

Code:

---

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

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This is better : A "safer" way would be to enable Extras-devel and install both package at the same time with ap-get install <package name> then disable Extras-devel.

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Hi all,

The package should install fine now; it will force Easy Chroot to upgrade automatically.

Sorry for the headaches.

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hey qole: getting still getting unable to install. I uninstalled both easy debian and chroot. Then tried installing easy debian alone and it said unable to uninstall.

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debernardis just told me that Easy Debian's Evince icon is conflicting with the Maemo version of Evince. So I'll fix that. Do you have Evince installed, andyph666?

If you don't, could you go to the terminal, gain root and type:

Then post the output here.

I would like to know what is breaking for you...

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Can confirm. Here is the error I get when trying to update:

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This version is absolutely spot on! The unpack took a while and I had to move the previous image to another location but after that it has been fine.. even got FileZilla installed and fully working!!

I'll have a go at changing the font sizes and optimising Thunderbird.

One question though, how do I mount the root of the Hildon filesystem to browse from PCFman?

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hi Qole,

the problem is definetly with the Evince verison for maemo5.

regards

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 

Hey Qole. I have evince installed. Do I just remove the shortcut? Also, it works with the version from testing. Thanks.

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New version uploaded (0.9.42) that should fix the Evince problem.

Tried extracting the image in a hidden directory -- didn't help. :( 1hr42 mins.

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Well, the silence tells me that things must be working for people now.

Anybody tested the new installer? What do you think of it? It downloads a current list of images from qole.org, so I'll be able to update the image without having to update the package in the repositories.

I installed Maemo Evince and played with it. I think I'll remove the Debian Evince icon since the Maemo one seems to work fine.

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Yes Qole,

now it installs fine, still downloading the new image though.

Keep up the good work!

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Some handy plugins for Iceweasel:

Grab and drag: for Easier scrolling
Tiny menu: install, and gain screen real-estate by moving the necessary buttons to the menu bar, and then disabling the navigation toolbar

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I know this is not a support forum, but I'm stuck and I don't know any other place to ask:

I did manage to install VLC (using image V3b), but the colors are off (purplish). There is also some stuttering. Did anyone manage to install it correctly, and if so, how? I had to enable the Squeeze repository before it would even install at all.

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Hmmmmm please pardon my debian ignorance!
1) Download went quick,
2) unpack went quick,
3) testing the file part, took about 3 hours!
4) wohooooooo loads up fine! - and a well done to you qole!

5) - loading the synaptic package manager... I get ROXterm loading up asking for a root password...

Sorry... did search this thread for root - but all i get is a million"Chroot" posts...
Can anyone help me out please?

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Go to Run or start a terminal
Type SUDO SYNAPTIC

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In debian chroot terminal mode (or after sudo debian in osso_xterm) you can set the root password for your debian system yourself by entering "passwd" on the command line.

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I just installed debian and it works great.

I do have 1 problem with it however and I was wondering if anyone could help me. Every time i make any changes, like change the background, or change the location of the taskbar it changes back after i close debian and go back in. Is there anyway i can save the settings? And how do you guys normally close debian, do you: go to the close debian application in maemo, close it in the dashboard, or logout from within debian? (i've never tried this one).

I got a feeling this question was answered already in this thread, but I couldn't possibly go through every post.

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i always use shutdown, from the menu inside easydebian, as you would shuttimng down ur pc

can anyone suggest an app for browsing files on wifi network for easydeb?

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when can yiu release this new update image for extra like you did with version 2?

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Ok, ok, the flurry of updates is coming to an end. I think 0.9.44-1fremantle1 is going to Testing (and ten days later, to Extras).

Thank you all for your patience!

This version has the Function-keys mapped to shift-fn + top row keys (for english keyboards). Your custom .xbindkeysrc won't be overwritten, however. Look for the .xbindkeysrc.dist file after upgrade.

The installer is also more polished, including a sound'n'light show when the extraction is done.

I am also satisfied with the packaging.

When everything is in testing, I'll give you directions to vote...

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@qole
Maybe you could change the qmount-script to mount debian with nobh and nodiratime in addition to notime to gain a little bit more performance.

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hstende: can you confirm any performance improvement with those options? If you can, I'm willing to add them and upload (yet another) new version of Easy Chroot...

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@qole
I tried to run som test and it was a little bit faster with the extra options. I runned debian on sdhc-card as a partition and not as a image. I did the test on /root so I was sure I didn't use the bind-mounted partitions.
Here are some results:

with noatime:
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m20.376s
user 0m0.477s
sys 0m18.477s
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m20.367s
user 0m0.469s
sys 0m18.422s
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m20.099s
user 0m0.602s
sys 0m18.438s


with noatime,nobh,nodiratime
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m19.319s
user 0m0.523s
sys 0m18.273s
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m19.968s
user 0m0.563s
sys 0m18.055s
[root@debian: ~]time for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cp test test$i; rm test$i; done;done

real 0m18.820s
user 0m0.555s
sys 0m17.961s

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 

I found another possibility to run application in easy debian.
I installed ssh in easy debian and told it to listen to port 23.
I then from n900 console after starting debbie and starting ssh-deamon.
I ran from debbie
ssh-keygen
cp .ssh/id_rsa.pub ./ssh/autorized_keys
chmod 600 ./ssh/authorized_keys
exit from debbie

From meamo-console I then ran:
ssh -X localhost -p 23 soffice

This gave a better look to openoffice.
But if the application uses a lot of video, this would be a slow option....

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I think the easy debian package needs to "depends: dmsetup" - shall I file a bug report?

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downloaded new chroot update that showed up today, now there is no close debian. is it not needed anymore?

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phedders: Perhaps I could add a "suggests" line in the "easy chroot" package for "dmsetup", "libdevmapper1.02.1" and "kernel-module-dmloop", (I wish dmsetup depended on the other two!) but people have done tests and there doesn't seem to be an actual need for the dm-loop packages. But if you install them, my scripts will use them. The problem is that, unlike Debian, Maemo has no concept of "suggests".

dscobsct: I moved the "Close Debian" icon to Easy Debian, so if you update both packages, the (shiny new) icon should be in your menu again.

hstende: How does running openoffice through ssh -X make it look "better"? Is it because it uses the standard theme rather than the dark theme?

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thanks quole, by the way bloody nice job man, ive been diving in to your work the last few days respect for all your effort

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After opening Debian lxde I can't see the menu. There are only 3 icons on the left panel and My documents folder. Normally there was a menu icon in the upper left corner from which I could choose to run openoffice or gimp or something else.

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fw190: have you installed the new image? If not, grab it with the fancy new installer.