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Nice the email's "to" button and "send" button at the bottom are fixed again.

Now my question is. do more people have issues with email? (have this problem from day one with PR1.0) Sometimes the email client crashes back to desktop and opens all of a sudden after 15 minutes. sometimes an account keeps loading and doesnt give "inbox" shown. after a minute or so it shows up. Sometimes the first time it shows up instantly and when quited and opened again it takes a minute... email is very unstable. And im wondering why it does that.

Its like the email client is waiting for something... its very odd.

To be claer, its not the problem of the SSU. i always had this problem. can you guys look in to it and maybe try to fix this delay.

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I don't know if these have been asked but I'll ask anyways. I like MicroB. It works just fine for normal browsing but there's two things that I really hate in it. There's no way to close the open window(s) if it's in portrait. Sure, you can end the task with the power-button and select "End current task" but other than that you can't just close the window.

The other one is the fact that we can't use the text-field in portrait either, though that's assumably by purpose (since we can't use portrait-vkb either).

Could these be fixed or is MicroB closed-source?

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i'd never try to be a "enabler" (thanks Dr Phil :) ), but I've always found the elitist RTFM attitude to be one of the most offensive things about the Open Source Community........

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Showing "20.2010.36-2maemo11" within the "Productinfo"?
Mine shows "20.2010.36-2" after the "update" and the forced reboot.
So what can I do? How can I check my device? :(

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Just a quick note about last night's update.
Fixed:

• bug #11835: Logical ID shown / Translation missing for "Add attachment" dialog title in Modest
• bug #11839: Show the previous e-mail after deleting an e-mail in VIEW mode
• bug #11858: Unexpected repeated button To:
• bug #11859: No bottom send button anymore
• bug #11874: Impossible to select text once the email is scrolled
• Replaced osso-applet-notificationlight and osso-applet-display with FOSS clones by Nicolai Hess (cloes #11913 and #11932).
• Merged Thomas Perl's patches to configure font size in the application menu.

And a quick note about the last two lines there.
Nicolai has rewritten both the "Display" and the "Notification lights" applets in Settings, at first glance, you won't notice any changes (after all, that's why they're "clones"), however, if you apply CTRL+SHIFT+R, then you'll see the applets are displayed properly now, I'll add portrait support to the control panel in a future update (need to check the rest of the applets that don't work).

As for thp's patch, it allows you to easily change the font used in the application launcher, just edit /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini and change the font in tile_font (task_nav section).

So thanks to nicolai and thp for their additions to the SSU :)
Also, thanks to naikel (not sure if he's on tmo) for the patches to modest.

I also added a preinst script to hildon-desktop, this should back up your current transitions in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini.old.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I don't edit that string so the Ovi store doesn't break, only way to check which version you're on is to use HAM/fapman to see which version Maemo 5 Community SSU package is.

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Ok - HAM (within "Uninstall") says "20.2010.36-2maemo11" (details for "Maemo 5 Community SSU Package"); then the update did run... perfect and thanks for your help and efferort!

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After today's update, my transitions.ini file was overwritten.
I expect this is expected behaviour, but as there's no real list of changes or announcement mailing list, it's kinda hard to know.
Just a head up, tis all.

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Well, it's still in -testing. There was a post about three above yours which described exactly that behaviour and how to get the old one back:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=605

It's also consistent with the behaviour of dpkg when encountering modified configuration files. Unfortunately, I'm not sure anything better can be much done (patches or suggestions welcome).

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I wonder what the long-term solution for this is, as it would be awkward to keep that version number forever just so the Ovi Store doesn't break.

I guess one solution would be for someone to clone the "About Product" settings applet as an open source version (I assume the original is closed source) to allow an additional line giving the community update version number, but keeping the same major version number string for Ovi Store compatibility.

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No problems with my update, thanks

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I have a problem with the auto updates, so I maually installed maemo11 via xterm.

is it "safe" to do so?

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To Mr MohammadAG :
the portrait mode for the media player is still crappy . Is it in project to implement the media player you rewrited a little time ago with nice portrait mode ?
Anyway , thanks for what you do for maemo !

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I tried updating the changelog a bit, I'm just a bit unsure about version maemo10 as it is mentioned pretty much nowhere on the forums and bugzilla, so if one of the dev's could shed some light on it that would be great.

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I don't think maintaining the ovi store is really a long-term concern.


this is a bigger problem, imo. can we get a mailing list through maemo.org or do we need to take it to a google group or such?

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Why don't you guy integrate some of the hildon-desktop patches ?

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Some have been. Read up. Documentation welcome at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or GUI editors of transitions.ini.

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Ummmm... There's a portrait/landscape qwerty/T9 vkb out already. And has been for a while. It's called FastSMSEvo in the repositories, or something like that. It uses the FastSMS keyboard, and it requires you to have FastSMS installed, but you never have to actually use said FastSMS.

And you can use the text fields in-browser when in portrait (either by sliding out the keyboard just far enough to reach the keys, or with the aforementioned portrait vkb). You just can't use the URL text bar - though that might be what you meant.

I agree with you on the MicroB UI in portrait mode. That's one of the few things that personally annoyed me about the decisions of those working on the N900 - give a stripped version of the MicroB UI in portrait instead of a full one.

Oh, and to answer your question: MicroB is basically Firefox with a different UI. It uses the Mozilla Firefox engine (open source) but the user interface (basically everything you see when you use/interact with it) is closed-source.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Just to chime in and say that I updated to the latest CSSU release at lunchtime, and as with previous releases I have encountered NO issues. Everything is running as expected.

thanks.

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Just found out about this today. Why ws I not informed?????

LOL just kidding.

Can't believe I only just spotted this though. Must be loads of people that don't know this thing exists. It is very understandable what the first poster was trying to ask/find out when they just discovered something important was going on. Looks like something very interesting and gives hope for the future with all the microsoft stuff going on with nokia, and the possibility that meego might not be what we all hoped.

Just have to figure out how to actually install this and test it now....
off to read more.

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Yes, I was aware of that and am subscribed to the thread. Thanks though. I didn't consider it as an option yet, since it still is in -Devel, as far as I'm aware of.

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Hi there,

could someone tell me plz if theres a way to see which version actually is installed.

the settings -> about menu still says 20.2010.36-2

:cheers:

..::J4ZZ::..

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Hmm. I seem to have some font trouble after installing latest update.

I have replaced the 4 nokia system fonts with my own custom font so that the custom font would be used everywhere. Now even if I edit the new font entry in transitions.ini and write my custom font name there, my custom font is not used throughout the whole system. in isolated places some other font is shown (e.g. calendar agenda view and foreca weather widget). Most places the custom font is used though.

This worked fine before the update. Any tips? It seems tht the handling of system fonts has changed a bit too much for my liking or then I have messed up something ;)

EDIT: I managed to fix this:
- Copied the 4 original Nokia system fonts (nokia sans) back to /usr/share/fonts/nokia/
- Made sure that transisitions.ini was set to use 'Nokia Sans 15'.
- Rebooted
- Replaced the 'Nokia Sans 15' text in transitions.txt with my custom font name (Helvetica Neue LT Com 15'). Note, this font needs to be in one of the font paths (/home/user/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts)
- Replaced the 4 original Nokia system fonts in /usr/share/fonts/nokia with my custom font
- Rebooted and the custom font is again used everywhere in the system

I guess what went wrong was that the new transitions.txt file that came with this CSSU update had a reference to 'Nokia Sans' which wasn't on my system anymore. Then some other font got used instead in selected places. Doing the above was the only way to again get rid of this 'other font' and use my custom font everywhere on my system.

I'll probably need to repeat the above procedure every time there is a new transitions.txt file pushed by a CSSU update since that again will create a new reference to a non-existing Nokia Sans font. But at least now I have a nice how-to on how to fix it :)

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Very great! thanks or everything. works like a charme.
Thx Nicolai for the notification clones.

Keep up the outstanding work!

I need to ask something about the new strings in transitions.ini.
Well, I copied over my own transitions.ini... but it seems I have overwritten the new strings.

Could someone plz. post the new strings.
I know there's
what are the other new triggers? like the tile_font one mentioned above.
How should it look and where to put it ?
Are there any other new strings I overwrite.

also I really really hope for more transitions.ini additions.

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Awesome job, guys. I know, there is a thanks button, but I somehow felt that wasn't enough. All updates applied, no problems so far.
Any chances on getting conversations fixed with twitter oAuth, btw?

Thanks a lot!

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Just took the plunge and looking good so far.
Thank you to all involved. Going to play now and test out further:)

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I'm not sure whether this is tru. I do see the entire microB experience. To see this; disable autorotate in microb and then I use shortcud to enable rotation. Then I get the landscape menu, but then in portrait

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how to make shortcutd to enable rotation ?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I use the short press action of the camera button to enable rotation. It can be found within the menu of shortcutd.

Cheers

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I'm sure there are better ways but a relatively easy way to do it is to go to System - Application Management (not sure if this is the actual name, I run a non-English language) and from there select "Remove". Find the Maemo 5 Community SSU Package (Find: Ctrl+F "Maemo") and find your version there.

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Oh, wow, thanks. Well that solved that bugger for me then. Now I know what not to use in auto-rotate. :D

Now if only that code could be implemented to the MicroB. Maybe by forcing the browser to disable its own portrait and making a switch, that'd use the Ctrl+Shift+R automatically, just like in Settings-panel?

EDIT: Hmm. It seems to be so, that it doesn't work always. I opened the browser, pressed the shortcut (Camera adjusted for that) and I got the new portrait only once per session. Buggy, I'd say?

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@ rantom

For me it actually works every time. Maybe check your settings again.

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You have to enable it for every new window, I believe. Since, you know, each new window opens with whatever the 'default' rotation settings are. (I'm fiddling with it now, and I'm not getting consistent rotation either, but I'm not actually connected to the internet, so maybe there's something like a "one per page loaded" rotation bug, or something. *Shrug*)

As for making something autorotate, you have to fake key presses - that's how shortcutd does it. (This is also why if you use the enable rotation shortcut in quick succession, you can see "Caps Lock On" come up. Because the OS sees two shift key presses closely together - where-as normally it simulates the ctrl-shift-r combination and then 'unpresses' the keys fast enough that the second press of shift isn't counted with the first... or something like that.)

Fake keyboard presses are part of the X window system's normal libraries, though I don't know of any way to run them from the command line. There's an xdotool program out there, but it's not ported from the N900. If you could do it from command line - dbus calls, or by porting xdotool, or some other method I don't know - then you can stick it in dbus scripts or something, and run it upon the opening of a MicroB window.

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just got another update today. it included modest...which is good, as since the last update, my modest crashes and closes incessantly!

hope this fixes it.

and, btw, my about product still says 20.2010.36-2 as well.

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oh, and i still no longer have a bottom button to send email.

could have sworn it was there before i did the ssu here.

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My request for a modification to Microb would be to have it open new windows in the background.

The idea of opening a new window would most often seem to be in order to continue working in the present window.

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@rotoflex,

and then we would continue to tap on what we want open, only to eventually figure out once we minimized in frustration, that we actually did open 50 other windows, showing the powerful multi-tasking ability to run that many windows simultaneously, and finally stop cussing because the damn thing was "working"

lol

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

the media player widget doesnt work with the new ssu anymore

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Please, you can fix the bug of the ovi maps for use the gps offline without internet? Thanks