Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Cool! (Was this the same Daewoo that I just never could find a keyset for? :) Might have been a bug in one of the existing keysets that eventually got fixed...)

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Yes, I think this would be very doable, with the caveat that I really haven't stopped messing around with the keyset structures yet. So, for example, what was Philips TV Keyset 1b in version 1.0 might end up being split into Philips TV Keysets 1b and 1c in version 1.1, or possibly even get merged back into keyset 1. I'm still trying to reorganize the keysets as efficiently as possible under the hood, so it's hard to perfectly maintain keyset labels across releases.

Still, that's no excuse not to have keyset labels, just a warning that what you labeled last week might not exist next week. :) Let me see how much work it would take to add it in...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

for some reason I have to be very close to the box for it to work with the current version. It used to work at a further distance. I am using the motorolla stb settings

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Interesting! Is this only with the Motorola set top box, or is this a problem with all devices? There's been a similar on-going problem with Sony TVs; I'm almost certain it has to be a problem with the IR protocol I'm using (as normal universal remotes work just fine with Sony TVs, so far as I know), but I haven't been able to pin down exactly what is going on.

Can you tell me the model name of the set top box? Thanks!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

it's tv keyset 5 that works :)

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Ah, that one is using a protocol called "Proton" (and so far is the only keyset I've found using it. :) ) I'm not even sure where I found that info. Actually, Proton is a fairly nice little protocol -- it's a very stripped-down version of the ever-popular NEC protocol, and as such was pretty easy to implement...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Hey nice to see you back again.

Other than the recently reported "/dev/lirc0" issue posted by DAZYD2F there has been no reported issues here.

I have had no issues with the latest Devel version.

I have been keeping on top of the request wiki, you will probably notice it's increased in size a fair bit.

Will be nice to see updates for Pierogi again :D

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Sorry it's taken so long for me to get back to Pierogi work! :) I've checked into the Strong satellite receivers, and I've found half a dozen different keyset config files, no two of which match each other. :( I'll throw a few of these in, but I'm not going to make any guarantees that any of them will work...

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I realize this message is several months old, but let me answer it anyway:

I'll take a look around; I should be able to find something for it. Toshiba products are fairly well represented in the various universal remote sites.

Actually, I've decided not to retrieve any keyset data from the Psiloc irRemote website. I'm not entirely certain what their exact policy is on the use of config files downloaded from their site, but they certainly don't seem to be interested in free and open source software. (Even though, if you look at the format used by their config files, it's pretty obvious that it's been ripped straight out of the LIRC project. I'll bet they're even running the LIRC server inside their program...)

In any case, I suspect most of the available keyset data out there has already made its way into either the public LIRC project, or into the massive database of JP1 config files at the www.hifi-remote.com website. I doubt I'm missing much by excluding the Psiloc data.

(However, let me note that the QtIrreco project is itself built on top of the LIRC server, so Psiloc config files could be used with that project with only minimal reformatting, if you'd like to give it a try.)

This is, unfortunately, a bit of a problem. I really only started the Pierogi project for my own personal use, to let me play around with keyset data and try to merge commands for many different products into a smaller number of super-keysets. As such, I've not really bothered trying to create a user-friendly keyset management scheme; I've really just been hard-coding all the data directly into my source files. This does have the beneficial effect of allowing a lot of keyset data to be stored in a very small amount of space (which is, indeed, very good for a mobile machine; I'd love to see how much space the Psiloc program would take up if they tried to load every single one of their config files at the same time). But yeah, it doesn't make adding new keyset data easy for anybody who hasn't had their nose deep in the code for a while.

Honestly, I have to say I probably won't be changing this any time soon; I'm still having too much fun messing around with keyset data and trying to merge similar command sets together. Pierogi really is a different kind of beast than QtIrreco, irRemote, or any of the other LIRC-inspired (or -derived) IR programs; where they have focussed on flexibility, I'm concentrating more on size and efficiency. Anway, that's my excuse. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Many remote controls do overload the arrow keys with the channel and volume controls; where this is the case, Pierogi does indeed support using both the channel/volume controls for cursor movement and the arrow keys for channel/volume control. Otherwise, though, I'll prefer to keep them separate; even if we're talking about a device that, say, has channel controls but doesn't support arrow keys, I'd prefer to avoid repurposing the Pierogi arrows for channel control. For now, I'd like to have the Pierogi keys match the original remote keys as closely as possible...

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Hi Copernicus!
Glad you're back
Is it possible to add a panel for qwerty keyboard in Samsung Tv keyset 2a?
I need it for Samsung SmartTv UE32ES6800
Tx

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Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible. I just looked through the manual for the ES6800, and there's nothing in there about using any sort of keyboard with the TV. There is no bluetooth listed either, and although it has 3 USB ports, they seem dedicated for use with media devices (thumb drives and such).

Even for TVs that do support keyboards, Pierogi probably isn't going to be able to emulate a remote keyboard. Most manufacturers are simply not choosing to use infrared technology for that purpose. Radio frequency interfaces (like bluetooth) are the fad for keyboards these days...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

The key set is not used on a motorola set top box but it's a general instrument set top box, cannot tell you the model right now. And yes it only happen with that box.

:D last night I let a friend of mine thought that his brand new flat screen was defective when it keeps coming on and off :D

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Thank you! :) That means it's very likely that I've got the protocol just a little bit off for that device; I've got the wrong timing values, or I'm using the wrong carrier frequency. I'll do some more research...

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Tx for the help.
I don't know if it's important but the ES6800 does supports wired and wireless (through bluetooth) keyboards and mice, trust me, I tried
Samsung sells RMC-QTD1 (remote with qwerty) and VG-KBD1000(keyoboard wireless) ma they both use bluetooth

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

You might check out the "bluemaemo" project -- I haven't used it myself yet, but it should allow the N900 to be used as a bluetooth keyboard for a variety of devices...

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can you please add samsung air conditioner with remote ARH-109

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I saw your entry on the device list, and I'm slowly working my way through that list. :) I've gotta admit, though, that I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to deal with many of the AC ir protocols; for some reason, air conditioners seem to have protocols dozens of times more complex than those used for TVs or DVD players. :(

Edit: Hey, it turns out that one of the experts at the JP1 website finally managed to crack the checksum being used in the protocol for this remote (just a couple of weeks ago, in fact). But man, what an insanely complicated protocol they use... It seems that, due to the state information maintained inside the remote, every command has to dump the entire set of state information to the A/C in order to keep them in sync. At least, that's my guess.

I'm not going to give any estimates as to how long it'll take to get this into Pierogi, as I don't know how long it'll take to actually wrap my head around the whole thing. But you can check out The Robman's amazing work here.

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Well, one advantage to taking time off from a project is that, when you come back to it, you sometimes notice things you had missed previously. I spent weeks wrestling with the QTabbedWindow interface back in the spring, and couldn't find a good way to manage the tabs; but, in the fine print, I've just discovered that they'll let you place an arbitrary button on either side of the tab bar.

So, I dropped an arbitrary button on the right side of the bar, and am now using that button to easily manage the available tabs. (At least, I think this new system is easy.) Click the button, and you are presented with several collections of panels to choose from. And the screen looks nicer this way, too, I think. I'll attach a pic of the new screen at the bottom of this post.

Still an experimental concept here; please give me your thoughts on how to improve it (or whether you think it's junk :) ). Thanks!

Anyway, I now have this update working its way into extras-devel. As always, be warned that there may be prolific bugs in this release, especially as I've been away from the project for so long.

Also of note in this release, I've made a first pass at keysets for Cisco, Gadmei, Loewe, Onkyo, Orion, Proview, Strong, Technisat, and Telefunken, and added new keysets to Panasonic, Sony, Toshiba, and Zenith. (I'm trying to work through the backlog of the device request list as best I can. :) Still lots more to go...)

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Well, first things first, that's great app, either for home and outside (read pranks) use :D For me that arbitrary button is spot on idea.
I do have one request, I don't know is it hard to get new devices on app, but if it is ok for You to add this one:

"TRIAX Digital Satellite Receiver SR 110"

Living in Eire, and there is plenty that stuff around, have one (this is very cheap, and low end stuff - but working fine) myself.

Keep up the good work.

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I took a quick look around; I can't seem to find a config file for that exact receiver, but I've found files for two or three other Triax set top boxes. I'll throw them in the next update and see if they might work for you. :)

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Well you've done a good job at clearing up the requests.
Sorted the wiki's out accordingly and added a new section in requests called "should be working".
You can now see the wood from the trees so to speak...

As for the new drop panel, it seems to work great.

One thing I would like ask is have you started any key mappings for shortcuts?
OMP has done this recently and it makes operation a breeze, it also ties in with CSSU users to.

Example:-
Q = First Tab (Main), W = Second Tab (Utility) E = Third (Keypad) etc ....

Maybe if you wanted for the Main screen only:- M= Mute, Space = On/Off and directions for volume and channels.

Lastly I can't remember if I asked you about the Favourites Tab.
Is it really required on the tab bar?
I hardly go there anymore thanks to the rocker switch selection. :)

It's nice seeing pasta shaped updates in HAM again!

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Great!

Hmm. I've actually been toying with the idea of assigning macros to keys; press one button and send of a whole string of IR commands. Sort of how fancy universal remotes like the Harmony work. But yeah, assigning keys to each tab should be quite simple, I think. Let me play around with it a bit. I suppose a mix of both would be possible as well, if it isn't too confusing.

And yeah, I do really need to catch up to what's going on in the CSSU world, I suppose. :) :)

That is a very good question. :) I've already had someone tell me that the favorites would work better as a pop-up menu than as a panel. I'm kind of thinking that I should put another arbitrary button on the left hand side of the tab bar for favorites; that might get it out of the way while still keeping it close when you really need it. (It'd also give me more space to add yet more panels to each collection...)

Mmm, pasta and ham. Time for me to go get a snack. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Excellent upgrade, Please, One request, you can add remote control for projectors (Sony Vpl-ew5; Sony Cx70; View Sonic 3d Pjd5126) and others.

Regards. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Thanks! And, in fact, a half dozen Sony VPL config files made it in to the 1.1.5 release (and are now Sony Projector Keyset 1 and 1a). Please tell me if they work for you. I'm not finding anything for the Cx70 (hopefully it is compatible with the VPLs), but I can see a couple of Viewsonic projector config files; I'll add them to the list. :)

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hi,excuse me if i may ask a simple question,since this is universal ir remote,could this be well worked with air conditioners? If yes then how could i make it work with MIDEA air conditioners ? do i have to be precise with the model number or because all midea ac use same remote so any configuration for a midea ac could do the trick ? please dont hit me,it is installed in my N900l but unfortunately i have not even tried this on any tv set.As my laptop does all the work so never needed testing on tv but the ac in my room might wanna be turned on by my N900? TIA

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Yes, if your A/C has a IR remote control it could be supported.

I can't see any MIDEA keysets in Pierogi at the moment, but if you could find the model number it may help.

It maybe worth testing some of the included A/C Keysets, you may get lucky.

I am sure Copernicus will add some MIDEA keyset if there is data available for them.

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These new tabs looks indeed much cleaner but on my samsung TV, if I want to have access to an other source. I have switch to the media-panel first.

Just like these quicknavigation for teletext buttos(colored buttons) aren't found anymore in the TV panel... Some buttons are scattered around different panels


Colored buttons is on: Universal Panel
Input source is on: Video media panel

I guess the tabs need some finetuning, except from that. This new button + tabs looks and feels great. Thanks for coming back again ;)

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Grateful user of Pierogl, looking for support for this:-
http://www.i-can.tv/en/overview-2851t
I have been through a load of existing keysets with no luck.

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Well, it does sort of work with air conditioners right now, but not very well. :) This is an area of Pierogi that still needs a lot of work...

Most manufacturers do seem to play around with their IR protocols over time, so the more precise the model number, the easier it is for me to find a matching protocol. That said, however, I've taken a quick look for Midea config files, and I'm coming up completely empty. However, I did find one rather amazing web site where a guy describes in great detail how he reverse engineered his own Midea remote control sufficiently to create his own on/off switch. His info shows that the thing is sending 48 bits of data in each individual command, which is around the same amount used in the really complex protocols I'm finding from other manufacturers. So, there may be a chance that a protocol for another manufacturer will work with Midea.

That said, I'm still trying to figure out those really complex protocols myself, so I'm not going to make any promises on a time frame. Air conditioner remotes are tough! :)

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Thanks! Yes, I really do need to fine-tune the collections, and the panels themselves within the collections. Let me put that at the top of my current UI list. :)

Managing the input source controls is a special problem; some remotes can directly access dozens of different inputs, and even worse, some arrange the controls by function (antenna / cable / satellite / vcr / dvd / etc.) and others by port type (composite / S-video / component / HDMI / DVI / etc.). It's really tough trying to squeeze everything in...

And yeah, the color buttons definitely need to be in the TV collection! (BTW, as an American, I've never had the chance to use Teletext at all. I really only learned about it when I started this project. I had always wondered why every manufacturer started putting the same four colored buttons on their remotes, when they really didn't seem to serve much of a purpose...)

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I can't seem to find a config file for the 2851, but I've located one for the 2840. Hopefully that one will work on the 2851 as well. It appears to be using Microsoft's version of Philips' RC6 protocol, and I've got that protocol working, so I should be able to get it into the next update. :)

Edit: The "i-can" brand of receivers are a product of the ADB corporation, so they'll be listed under that name in Pierogi.

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I just wanted to say the latest version is very good. It's a very useful, straightforward-to-operate application.

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Agreed.. Thanks from me also.

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Thanks for the kind words! I have been aiming to make Pierogi just as simple and quick to use as I can.

That said, I'm now going to make life less simple for Pierogi users. :) Another update is on its way up to extras-devel; this one is quite a bit more ambitious than the previous one. The major change this time is that I've added a true per-keyset editable data mechanism. Up to now, all the keyset data has been completely static; even the favorites list was implemented as a set of pointers into the keyset data, rather than modifications to the keysets themselves.

The major effect in the user interface is that favorites are now chosen directly in the Select Keyset screen. When you select a keyset now, a configuration dialog box will pop up, allowing you to edit keyset data such as whether to make it a favorite. (You'll also find that you can now give each keyset a nickname.)

On the main screen, the favorites panel has been eliminated; in its place, a new button on the left side of the menu bar now provides a pop-up menu with a list of the available favorites. (Also, just to confuse you, the icon I was using for panel collections is now being used for the favorites list; I found an icon that looked a little like a tabbed panel, so I'm using that one on the right hand side.) I'll append some pictures at the end of this post so you can see what I mean.

I've also added a new "audio" panel, including some new buttons I couldn't quite fit in before. (I'm hoping to split the existing "video media" panels into cassette and disc versions, giving me yet more screen real estate to work with...)

This was a fairly large amount of code change, so I'm quite sure that you _will_ find bugs. Please let me know, and I'll provide fixes as soon as I can.

Also in this release, I've made a first pass at keysets for ADB (I-Can), Anitech, Blaupunkt, Lifetec, Medion, Sylvania, Triax, and Viewsonic. (Still trying to work my way through the request list...)

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Great news. Thank You Sir for adding support for Triax, unfortunatly it does not work for model owned by me - but I'm sure someone will benefit from this one.

Suberb idea with possibility to adding to favorites (with optional nick name) during selection. But (it might be just me strugling) would be nice to have option to delete added device from it, other then editing .conf file. The reason for that in my opinion is, when You adding device control panel that You know You will be using very often, You want it to go straight to favorites (and after last update we all can do so). But when You see that the one You choosen is not working for You (my case), You don't need it any more. Much quickier to remove from UI level, but again only my opinion.

Great work again Sir. All the best.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Drat! Hmm. There isn't too much more Triax data out there. Poking around, I've found a youtube video that talks a bit about remote control compatibility between versions of the Triax receivers... But that probably isn't much help. :(

No, I'm sure it isn't just you. :) I've spent the last few days working on the guts of the new (and rather large) data management scheme, and have spent very little time thinking about usability issues. :) I'll try to add more convenient controls in the next update. Thanks!

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Copernicus, You are a Legend :-D

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Thanks for the update.
Like the new nickname thing.

Am I being stupid or is it not possible to delete or manage favourite keysets any more?
Tried looking in all the menus and holding the favourite keyset for extra options couldn't find it.


Also just so you know it seems with my font (Ubuntu) the Input tab on the Universal Panel options gets cut off, due to the new Manage Keysets icon.

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I kinda figured I would be making things hard for everybody with this design. :) With this system, favorites are now a direct attribute of each keyset; so, when you edit a keyset in the Select Keyset by Name window, you get a popup containing an "add keyset to favorites list" checkbox. If that checkbox is checked, the keyset is a favorite; if not, it is not.

But yeah, it isn't nearly as easy a way to manage favorites as the favorites panel was (clunky as that system had been). I'll try to get a quicker & easier system implemented soon...

I was afraid that I was pushing things a bit with all the new clutter on the tabs bar. :) I'll try to leave a bit more space up there in the next update. Thanks!