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ibrakalifa 2012-04-27 12:28
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
you are all too ordinary, :D

youmeego 2012-04-27 12:55
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
what's next after the mind-blowing apps like cutetube, nitdroid and wazapp on nokia n9?

Viber?

Muzimak 2012-04-27 13:20
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1198207)
what's next after the mind-blowing apps like cutetube, nitdroid and wazapp on nokia n9?

Viber?
For me it would be a working video call enabled Skype App.

Jarige 2012-04-27 15:35
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1198213)
For me it would be a working video call enabled Skype App.
I already videocalled with Skype once. I had a wifi connection and I made a video call with someone on an iPad with my N900. The quality of the front camera really sucks, but it worked nonetheless. I didn't do any configuration or anything.
This was with a wifi connection, both of us where on the same network.
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I just wanted to state this ;)

tgalal 2012-04-27 15:43
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1198203)
some of the projects where that money would be much more useful:
cssu
kernel-power
phoneme
busybox-power
and much more projects that actually enhance maemo
Haters detected :)

youmeego 2012-04-27 15:58
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
nice to see you online, tgalal.

give more hints of what to expect for the may day release?

tgalal 2012-04-27 16:15
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1198268)
nice to see you online, tgalal.

give more hints of what to expect for the may day release?
The main aim is to have a fully functional single conversations feature. You might think it's not much, but by fully functional I mean having those single conversation built on top of an almost complete core of the app. So we'd have notifications, settings interface, chat logging, connection monitoring, delivery statuses, presence updates, contacts management and others.

Having those things stuff built correctly and tested would allow most of the focus afterwards to be directly on more chat-related features (group chats, sending media..etc).

Arie 2012-04-27 16:28
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1198274)
The main aim is to have a fully functional single conversations feature. You might think it's not much, but by fully functional I mean having those single conversation built on top of an almost complete core of the app. So we'd have notifications, settings interface, chat logging, connection monitoring, delivery statuses, presence updates, contacts management and others.

Having those things stuff built correctly and tested would allow most of the focus afterwards to be directly on more chat-related features (group chats, sending media..etc).
It sounds like nothing on paper, but when coding I know it's a pain in the ***. Thank you for your continued efforts tgalal, I look forward to your release of whatsapp.

Hariainm 2012-04-27 16:57
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
The version you are going to release differs much from the video showed? Because it seems that message deliver status doesn't work on the video (all red dots), may be i get it wrong, but...
Also, i want to know more about the UI, it's QML-based? I know you are mainly a Phyton coder, but want to know if you have expertize in other programming languages / toolkits.
Can you please add a list of supported / non supported & TODO / WIP features? may be opening a new thread once the first beta arrives?
What about notifications in LPS (low power screen), are supported?
Thanks a lot and expect a donation ;-)

tgalal 2012-04-27 17:06
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1198291)
The version you are going to release differs much from the video showed? Because it seems that message deliver status doesn't work on the video (all red dots), may be i get it wrong, but...
Also, i want to know more about the UI, it's QML-based? I know you are mainly a Phyton coder, but want to know if you have expertize in other programming languages / toolkits.
Can you please add a list of supported / non supported & TODO / WIP features? may be opening a new thread once the first beta arrives?
What about notifications in LPS (low power screen), are supported?
Thanks a lot and expect a donation ;-)
Yeah delivery status in the video didn't work. But now it works. Wazapp is in python (with PySide) and QML. When first beta is out I will setup an online bugtracker. I'm not sure about LPS as for some reason I can't get the main standby screen to show on N950 (not supported maybe?), but definitely it would be on Todo list ;)

Mohammed Muid 2012-04-27 17:29
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
at Tgalal. boss when you release a version for N900. i suppose the version is for N9

slushie 2012-04-27 17:48
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Hi tgalal, great that you're online and thanks for making wazapp for the N9. Quick question about the notifications, will they come up even if the app itself is closed?

Thanks

s4br0s0 2012-04-27 17:53
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohammed Muid (Post 1198307)
at Tgalal. boss when you release a version for N900. i suppose the version is for N9
See here

Then here

Continue here

And finally here

Greetings.

PD: Sorry i forgot the most important here

tgalal 2012-04-27 18:00
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slushie (Post 1198313)
Hi tgalal, great that you're online and thanks for making wazapp for the N9. Quick question about the notifications, will they come up even if the app itself is closed?

Thanks
If you close the app it remains running in background. So when you receive a new message a notification appears, which when clicked re-shows the app.

The Best Isaac 2012-04-27 18:24
Re: Icon.
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by hriday. (Post 1198077)
[...]

1.
The original Icon is not very logical.

[...]

2.
Why the original?

[...]

3.
Legal issues.

[...]
You make some valid points, especially the legal issue is something I also thought about after I finished the icon. Because of that I created an alternative icon (long ago), where i flipped the bubble (not because of the logical reading direction, I'm not that comic reading guy), fully filled the form and inversed and also enlarged the telephone glyph.

About the peak of the bubble: Yeah, it's to close to the edge, but if you shift the bubble more to the right it's no longer centered and that would look weird (though it's already not completely centered but it's hard to notice).

The reason why I didn't (and won't) create a complete redesigned icon is because I'm acutally not a designer, I just composed some elements which were alread there because I happen to know how to use Illustrator and have some basic design knowledge.

So if tgalal cares about the icon this would be my altered version:

Guinoak 2012-04-27 18:32
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
@tgalal

I wanted to sum up on the "thank you" stream on this very nice *development* thread.

As you will probably we aware of, mostly every N9 user will download your app on May 1st. I have been always very curious on how many N9's are out there (I am sure I am not the only one), and this information is hard to get from Nokia, so...

..so my question is: are you planning to count downloads? It would be very nice to see that number published on this forum.

Thank you very much for your work, it is really appreciated.
Āl.

tgalal 2012-04-27 18:36
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Best Isaac (Post 1198329)
You make some valid points, especially the legal issue is something I also thought about after I finished the icon. Because of that I created an alternative icon (long ago), where i flipped the bubble (not because of the logical reading direction, I'm not that comic reading guy), fully filled the form and inversed and also enlarged the telephone glyph.

About the peak of the bubble: Yeah, it's to close to the edge, but if you shift the bubble more to the right it's no longer centered and that would look weird (though it's already not completely centered but it's hard to notice).

The reason why I didn't (and won't) create a complete redesigned icon is because I'm acutally not a designer, I just composed some elements which were alread there because I happen to know how to use Illustrator and have some basic design knowledge.

So if tgalal cares about the icon this would be my altered version:
This is awesome! Really thanks!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinoak (Post 1198330)
@tgalal

I wanted to sum up on the "thank you" stream on this very nice *development* thread.

As you will probably we aware of, mostly every N9 user will download your app on May 1st. I have been always very curious on how many N9's are out there (I am sure I am not the only one), and this information is hard to get from Nokia, so...

..so my question is: are you planning to count downloads? It would be very nice to see that number published on this forum.

Thank you very much for your work, it is really appreciated.
Āl.
Yeah I will be counting, so I'd appreciate if downloads are to be made only from the website (wazapp.im) when I put the link up :)

The Best Isaac 2012-04-27 19:02
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1198332)
This is awesome! Really thanks!
Glad you like! :)

Looking forward to the release, thank you for your hard development work!

D.Cent 2012-04-27 19:15
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1198332)
Yeah I will be counting, so I'd appreciate if downloads are to be made only from the website (wazapp.im) when I put the link up :)
Hehe I hope the website won't be completely down that day because of too many simultaneous downloads ;)

Thank you for your work!

MHD.KURDY-Lebanon 2012-04-27 20:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
such great work:) will it support status update?

tgalal 2012-04-27 20:21
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MHD.KURDY-Lebanon (Post 1198369)
such great work:) will it support status update?
Hopefully :)

hriday. 2012-04-27 21:40
Re: Icon.
 
@The Best Isaac: This version looks really totaly nice.
______

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Best Isaac (Post 1198329)
You make some valid points, especially the legal issue is something I also thought about after I finished the icon.
In case of legal issues i think its kinda 50/50. It's not a clone but still very close.
I kno of cases with less similarity in work of designers/companies who
got sued and lost upon court. Theres a risk but not so much like b4, so its up to you guys.
_

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Best Isaac (Post 1198329)
About the peak of the bubble: Yeah, it's to close to the edge, but if you shift the bubble more to the right it's no longer centered and that would look weird (though it's already not completely centered but it's hard to notice).
I kno it's almost centred. Well you could try to make the bubble a bit smaller.
Mayb better to try to make the peak smaller. A more drastic way would be not to use a circle form.
_

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Best Isaac (Post 1198329)
The reason why I didn't (and won't) create a complete redesigned icon is because I'm acutally not a designer
If this is a option for you and tgalal I can help you and give you some ideas or even sum mockups. Jus holla at me.

dcastrog 2012-04-27 22:03
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
So Tgalal.

How is the app doing with battery power? If this app uses push notifications can we expect a good battery life?

dcastrog 2012-04-27 22:06
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
BTW the new app ICON shown in the first post of this page looks way better than the original. It will give the Nokia N9 its own uniqueness, the way it was intended to be in the first place. Id choose it over the generic one any day!

Please consider it Tgalal!

chasetheangel 2012-04-28 01:14
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Best Isaac (Post 1198329)
........
The reason why I didn't (and won't) create a complete redesigned icon is because I'm acutally not a designer, I just composed some elements which were alread there because I happen to know how to use Illustrator and have some basic design knowledge.

So if tgalal cares about the icon this would be my altered version:
@The Best Isaac, just a suggestion..why don't we put the bubble tip on all of the four corners of the squircle...since (I think) that is what really is the core of WhatsApp- is to have a multiple conversations in one go.:D

The Best Isaac 2012-04-28 07:47
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hriday. (Post 1198402)
@The Best Isaac: This version looks really totaly nice.[/COLOR]
Thank you. I also like it better than the first version.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hriday. (Post 1198402)
In case of legal issues i think its kinda 50/50. It's not a clone but still very close.
I kno of cases with less similarity in work of designers/companies who
got sued and lost upon court. Theres a risk but not so much like b4, so its up to you guys.
Yes, the similarity is still there. But the same goes to the app name "Wazapp": It's not the original name but if you know the original WhatsApp messenger you'll know that it was the reference for this app.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hriday. (Post 1198402)
I kno it's almost centred. Well you could try to make the bubble a bit smaller.
Mayb better to try to make the peak smaller. A more drastic way would be not to use a circle form.

If this is a option for you and tgalal I can help you and give you some ideas or even sum mockups. Jus holla at me.
I've included the Illustrator source file in the zip package, so feel free to design a new icon and post it here. But of course it's up to tgalal to decide which icon he'll include.



Quote:
Originally Posted by chasetheangel (Post 1198453)
@The Best Isaac, just a suggestion..why don't we put the bubble tip on all of the four corners of the squircle...since (I think) that is what really is the core of WhatsApp- is to have a multiple conversations in one go.:D
We'll, nice idea in theory, but i don't think this will work because people wouldn't recognize it as a bubble anymore. ;)

Muzimak 2012-04-28 10:00
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarige (Post 1198257)
I already videocalled with Skype once. I had a wifi connection and I made a video call with someone on an iPad with my N900. The quality of the front camera really sucks, but it worked nonetheless. I didn't do any configuration or anything.
This was with a wifi connection, both of us where on the same network.
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I just wanted to state this ;)
I was referring to video call on N9 not N900

Muzimak 2012-04-28 10:28
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Hey Tgalal and thanx a million for the Good work,

1) What's going to happen if someone sends us Media files since it's not yet supported?

2) Is Whatapp paid for, if so how will this payment be made to them since the N9 version is not produced by them?

3) Also, when you check in Whatsapp Webside, they saying it's a hoax that they'll be charging for this App, but Wikipedia has the following :
Quote:
Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry, Symbian and Nokia S40 users can use the app 1 year for free, whereafter they have to pay US$1.99 (or local equivalent) per year. iPhone users can buy the app for a one-off fee of US$0.99 (or local equivalent) although the app is occasionally free for limited periods
. What's the truth here?

isorn 2012-04-28 11:11
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
The app is free but the service isn't. After a year you'll have to pay $2/year.

You can see it on Account info -> Service expires: ...

damaltor 2012-04-28 13:01
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgalal (Post 1198296)
I'm not sure about LPS as for some reason I can't get the main standby screen to show on N950 (not supported maybe?), but definitely it would be on Todo list ;)
You are right. As the N950 does not have an AMOLED display, it cannot have the LPS, because that would consume just as much battery as having the display fully activated. So, the LPS does only exist on the N9.

Thank you for your great work!

MHD.KURDY-Lebanon 2012-04-29 05:39
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
hey tgalal just a question...will i receive all the messages since i stopped using whatsapp on my other phone(nokia n8)? it'll be a mess cause it's been around 5 months :p

Weirdfisher 2012-04-29 12:08
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasetheangel (Post 1198453)
@The Best Isaac, just a suggestion..why don't we put the bubble tip on all of the four corners of the squircle...since (I think) that is what really is the core of WhatsApp- is to have a multiple conversations in one go.:D
I think it is not so good.Because there should be four rounded corners for all app icons.

Muzimak 2012-04-29 16:46
Re: Icon.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weirdfisher (Post 1199030)
I think it is not so good.Because there should be four rounded corners for all app icons.
The guy was just being sarcastic man, meaning he doesn't care much about the icon but the App itself...

youmeego 2012-04-30 04:34
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
let the countdown begin! When is the exactly time for the great moment of wazapp release?

baem90 2012-04-30 05:57
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
00:00 1st may japan time ? :p

ajack 2012-04-30 06:17
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Curious to know if the 1-May-2012 release date if for Maemo, MeeGo or both? :/

ajack 2012-04-30 06:18
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by baem90 (Post 1199323)
00:00 1st may japan time ? :p
If you follow New Zealand time, your wait will be cut by another 3 hours... :P

soryuuha 2012-04-30 08:46
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajack (Post 1199328)
Curious to know if the 1-May-2012 release date if for Maemo, MeeGo or both? :/
tgalal did said N9 first, then only N900.

soryuuha 2012-04-30 08:48
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by isorn (Post 1198573)
The app is free but the service isn't. After a year you'll have to pay $2/year.

You can see it on Account info -> Service expires: ...
Many reports that they got service auto-renewal upon expiring

ravent-n900 2012-04-30 09:02
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
can tgalal add option "hide my number" in whatsapp?


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