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I love the icon in the bottom right corner ;)

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Yeah, that was the hardest one :D

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Thank you!

The icon with incompatible version looks somewhat aggressive, doesn't it? :) Its usually not the fault of the user to have it and is resolved by clicking on "Update" and downloading of the updated maps. Hence the use of the symbol for sync from https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/jolla-ambient/ for SFOS. The current lightning maybe too scary for the users.

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Maybe this one is better?

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Surely for me. Let's hear what others think ...

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Definitely better.

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There are still these three icons left:
- mapnik (and maybe mapbox) global (earth?)
- postal global (language parsing part)
- country or region (used in the list while country is not requested or available)

for mapnik of course we can simply use the globe I have made for the other two icons. Anyway there is a mapnik logo, see https://mapnik.org/pages/media.html

postal global (language parsing part) - on that item I don't really know what is meant.

country or region: Maybe a Magnifying glass over the globe. Have to play a little bit with that one. Probably I will make suggestions tomorrow.

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____Yes! :-)

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For the countries to download I have made a variation:

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Mapnik - maybe some globe outline without mapnik logo. then we can use it for Mapbox globe outline too.

postal global: its databases that are used to parse German, English and other languages when searching for addresses. Its a part of full parsing with the other part being country specific (think Germany and Austria sharing the same language part, but having different neural networks for each of the countries).

Country or Region: would have to contrast with country/region already on device. and at the same time being similar, since its the same data, just not downloaded yet. Tricky...

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I prefer the first version.

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Of what?
The lightning or the folder?

Lightning no good, exclamation okay.
First variation of country folder better.

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That one. 10 chars

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So maybe just like that?

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That to me conveys the message of a storage. In this case the storage of maps.
The arrow clearly indicated the action of downloading. Without the arrow it looks like a static storage.

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hmmmm....
rinigus asked for this icons:
- country available on device
- country requested for download
- country or region (used in the list while country is not requested or available)

First one is clear to me, and I think the icon I made is fitting well. Also the second one left no questions to me, but the difference between the second and the third one is (especially after the further explanation of rinigus) not that clear to me. Maybe someone can help me a little bit with telling me what's the difference and if there has to be a different Icon, and how it could look like. I will try to implement that then.

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Well if it's a language database, maybe something like that?

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Thanks for the summary. I should really keep my gob shut until I gather all the information. I got clearly confused :mad:

My preferences:

Countries for download:
Attachment 40494

Countries on device:
Attachment 40495

Incompatible:
Attachment 40496

Except now that I see them all resized to the same width, I would probably reduce the thickness of the triangle outline.

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That's the smallest problem (few seconds job), we can turn on that one when we have decided which icons in general we want to use.

What would you take for the last requested icon?

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I really like the three flags idea. The only question is which flag goes on top :)

According to various sources, Mandarin is the most common language, followed by Spanish and English. So flags in that order would be the most politically correct. But do we actually have a Mandarin translation?

One could also take into account the aesthetics. German, French, Russian, Indian and many other countries' flags look similar when expressed in shades of grey. They are all made out of three horizontal stripes of different colours. Chinese would look distinctive on top but really bad in the background. Spanish is somewhere in the middle in that regard.

English is generally regarded as the "universal" language and is often used as the default if a specific language is not available so it would make sense to put the British flag on top, then Spanish, then Russian/French/Indian three-colour stripe at the back. Not to indicate any kind of political affiliation, just for the pure aesthetic effect. The three stripes would stand out at the back more than two stripes.

Or you can reverse the order: Spanish first, then the tricolor, then British at the back. It is distinctive enough to stand out even at the back and would also convey the message that it is the default backup language.

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Sorry, i was unclear, I meant of this requested icons:
- country available on device
- country requested for download
- country or region (used in the list while country is not requested or available)

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Yes, I agree

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Or maybe: 1 - white, 2 - gray, 3 - black? just as a flag symbols. Only whites it's not good, imho :-)

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Agreed. The simplest solutions are often the best.

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2 - shown in map manager when you subscribed to country, but haven't downloaded yet

3 - shown in map manager for countries that are available, but you haven't subscribed for them.

[sorry for quick reply, getting late over here]

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You mean like that?

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Short but clearly understandable ;)
That doesn't makes it easier! Maybe like that:

2:
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1556609274

3:
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1556609286

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Yes :-)

But as for the white flag, maybe remove it from the foreground? It would be better or not?

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IMO, these two icons and the three flags icon (for language selection) are basically fine now, but there is definitely still some room for improvements:

• The top flag being completely white does not really resemble a flag. As you already noticed, many flags consist of three, equally sized, horizontal stripes; using that scheme for the top flag (e.g., white at the top, dark gray in the middle, light gray at the bottom) will more likely look like a flag on first sight.
• There is a dent in the top horizontal line of the folder symbol in icon 3 (the "download languages" one), at about a fourth of its horizontal span at the right side: That line "jumps" slightly up vertically.
  But the reason seems to be that the first part of that line (i.e., its first fourth horizontally) is not absolutely horizontal, instead pointing slightly downwards.
• Similarly, the left span of the top horizontal line of the folder symbol in icon 2 (the "installed languages" one), seems to also point slightly downwards.

HTH

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Thanx for the feedback, I know that the last one wasn't really pretty, That's the reason I didn't upload a svg for that yet.
I just wanted to know, if the icons are acceptable. When I know which icons we'll use, I will do a clean job and harmonize the icons (line thickness e.g.) and upload a complete and proper made set.

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Something like this? (Sorry, just a quick bash-up in Paint from a screenshot, with leftover artifacts etc.)

Attachment 40503

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huhahhhh...
Then I would prefer my first suggestion. Isn't that way too dark????

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I think it is. My question was aimed more at olf than at you.
To be honest, if I were to do this, I would prefer the flag at the back to be a Union Jack.

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I will have a look into that, the next days.

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Well, basically yes, but there are reasons why my suggestion was to use "three, equally sized, horizontal stripes; [...] e.g., white at the top, dark gray in the middle, light gray at the bottom" for the top flag.
Furthermore, from my PoV the bold black lines separating these three stripes are an unnecessary icon element and contribute even more to not "resembling a flag", which is already hard to achieve with a simple icon in in grayscale.

Using a specific flag (e.g the UK one) for the flag on top of the stack introduces new ways for misinterpreting this icon, IMO.

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I was expecting to see flag icon variations when searching for languages in a prominent search engine. As a result, it was prominently presented with chat icons using "A" and some symbol from Eastern languages. In our case, where we have geography mixed with linguistics - flags could mean different things :). Although, it something that user cannot choose => we can put flags for languages as well.

With the country (going to be downloaded, present or absent on device), we have Earth as a symbol. However, its actually a country out of it, not full planet. Not that it makes icons easier...

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Sorry if mentioned already - I scanned, but don't have lots of time.. Having an issue on SF 3.0.3 where I'm not allowed to select a custom map storage. If I get to the 'select folder' screen, and go to settings, and select custom folder, (and click 'accept'), it still just stays stuck on that screen. I tried to trick it by clicking on 'create default', then going on to the rest of the setup, and then moving the contents of the default folder to a different folder, and selecting that folder in settings, but sure enough, maps are not identified, and when closing and reopening the app, it's back to being stuck on the 'select folder' screen, even though the custom folder is still selected, and the map files are there.
Anyone else? Thanks

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Do you think of this symbol: https://user-images.githubuserconten...8d69573845.png
It usually explicitly addresses a dictionary search or translation lookup (of a specific word or phrase), but not a language selection. And it took me years to comprehend it (fortunately this was years ago).

Meanwhile I created a pretty shitty bitmap mockup, providing a rough impression of what I tried to express with words before: https://user-images.githubuserconten...08a61d4053.png

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As a general remark on the newly suggested icons, I think they would look better with rounded corners. Especially the folder icons look a bit too realistic to me.

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AFAICS, the corners of all graphical elements in all of @fellfrosch's recent icon drafts are rounded, albeit with a quite small radius.
But imagining these icons in OSM Scout Server's configuration (i.e., at a much smaller resolution), I do agree that they likely look better with a larger corner radius, plus using thicker line widths for the folder element (AFAICS there are two widths to create the impression of perspective).