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Lumiaman 2013-08-06 18:27
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Originally Posted by uTMY (Post 1365325)
@Switch

Exactly, any sane company explores multiple strategies if they want to succeed.

Ah, I forgot the elephant in the room, Nokia doesn't ... hmmm hows that working out for them?

Looks like Samsung was hedging their strategy right up until Nokia chose Elop, then they announced their exit plan from Symbian.

rgds
Elop was nowhere in sight when Samsung made that decision. If you saw shiny iphone and new Androids, you would be leaving Symbian too....had nothing to do with Elop. It had to do who will be the next leader in OS. Not Symbian.

Lumiaman 2013-08-06 18:28
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1365323)
NOKIA took control of Symbian in 2008, it wasn't too surprising to see their competitors start weighing up alternatives. I would have too in their shoes.
Nah, that was minor. You forget the real elephant in the room. iOS and Android. Symbian was dead man walking for a looooong time

daperl 2013-08-06 18:33
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Before Eloptard, Nokia had a great plan. Apple did it. And Samsung gets it:

http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-co-ce...thing/57597026

Lumiaman 2013-08-06 18:39
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1365333)
Before Eloptard, Nokia had a great plan. Apple did it. And Samsung gets it:

http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-co-ce...thing/57597026
They did have a plan. They couldnt execute it.

cr0c0 2013-08-06 19:11
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1365336)
They did have a plan. They couldnt execute it.
Are you referring to Nokia failing to execute their Maemo/Meego plan? Because it seems to me their Windows Mobile plan is failing even worse. After spending billions in marketing, they still have single digit market share. With Tizen, Sailfish and Ubuntu entering the market soon, I doubt Nokia's chances will improve any time soon.

daperl 2013-08-06 19:14
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1365336)
They did have a plan. They couldnt execute it.
Wrong. We'll never know, 'cause Elop prematurely ejaculated. Like you.

Lumiaman 2013-08-06 19:53
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1365343)
Wrong. We'll never know, 'cause Elop prematurely ejaculated. Like you.
Lets see, N900 released in 2009, which meant that they should have started working on N9 at least a year prior to date, hmmmm...then it takes them 3 years to release N9? I say execution problems in pre-Elop Nokia.

Now N900, could have been much better, when everyone was doing capacitive, they went to resistant screen, it was a good phone, but not what people wanted. So execution and planning problem again.

I hope that NOKIA will eventually scoop up Jolla, if Jolla shows some semblance of success. That will be their new OS.

Lumiaman 2013-08-06 19:56
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Originally Posted by cr0c0 (Post 1365342)
Are you referring to Nokia failing to execute their Maemo/Meego plan? Because it seems to me their Windows Mobile plan is failing even worse. After spending billions in marketing, they still have single digit market share. With Tizen, Sailfish and Ubuntu entering the market soon, I doubt Nokia's chances will improve any time soon.
Lumia sales have been rising in double digits. Its the rest of the Dinosaur line up that faltered. But you got to put things in perspective. The competition is incredible now, and honestly the major revolution was iphone, everyone else after iphone was a copycat with variations on the theme. That includes all the other OSs you listed above.

daperl 2013-08-06 20:40
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1365353)
Lets see, N900 released in 2009, which meant that they should have started working on N9 at least a year prior to date, hmmmm...then it takes them 3 years to release N9? I say execution problems in pre-Elop Nokia.

Now N900, could have been much better, when everyone was doing capacitive, they went to resistant screen, it was a good phone, but not what people wanted. So execution and planning problem again.

I hope that NOKIA will eventually scoop up Jolla, if Jolla shows some semblance of success. That will be their new OS.
n900 and earlier Maemo tablets: C and GTK
n9: C++, QML and Qt

Not a trivial transition, but the existence of the n900 an n9 proved that it could be done. And then the Microsoft trojan arrived...

switch-hitter 2013-08-06 21:08
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1365354)
Lumia sales have been rising in double digits.
Windows Phone global market share Q2 2012 = 3.6%
Windows Phone global market share Q2 2013 = 3.9%
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/1...marena_001.jpg

Yeah, WP is really sky rocketing isn't it? :rolleyes:


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