Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Well, we've known for some time it's just a point release, so I've been anticipating more bug fixes and tweaks than major changes such as those that came with the first release of OS2008. That said, I have been hoping for some substantial improvements in MicroB.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

All I want is an improved n810 gps and web browsing experience. Anything additional is gravy.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Right, just bug fixes for a whole lotta bugs which have been keeping some people from upgrading to Chinook. And a new (much better) email client, and a Gecko-based browser coming from upstream equivalent to an FF beta, instead of an early alpha.

1. We've known for some time
2. Why is fixing bugs less "substantial" than adding features?

:confused: It's not clear only in the sense that they're "working on" it, not already done and lounging around on the beach, so it might not get done if they all drop dead.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Why not adding a whole bunch of new bug-ridden features? Mmm, i'll take the bug-free one, thanks a lot :)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Ah, bring that up with Quim Gil. He's already suggested blocking similar, though admittedly, less drastic, behaviour on the part of Nokia's maemo programmers. Perhaps he'll open a bug for "drop dead" also.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I won't comment on the better mail program (I use claws, I tried some modest betas and it disappointed me, however I cannot tell if it's any better than the old one since I never tried it), but I'm not sure the browser has been actually updated:

I agree that fixing bugs is more important than adding features, however it's pretty difficult to fix bugs without changes to buggy applications, isn't it?

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Most of the troublesome bugs aren't from applications anyway.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Agreed, all I really need is a better browsing experience, I reflashed to 0s2007 Opera the other day on my N800 and I had forgotten how quick the browsing was, granted the feature set wasn't there. Improved email, GPS acquisition, better (read quicker) browser and better bluetooth stack and IMHO N810 is pretty much ready for mainstream.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Have you considered that the "minor" update of allowing any package (including core packages and kernels) to be updated via apt-get or updated via the Application Manager at any time might fundamentally change how versions are released in the future?

We won't *have* to wait 6-12 months for a firmware that completely clobbers all the customizations that you've done. That kind of flexibility will allow each package to get updated separately as they need to be.

I don't like having to wait a long time for a ton of updates to come simultaneously. I hope Nokia runs with this concept and brings more frequent, smaller updates that will be less disruptive and easier to troubleshoot if problems do occur.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

That's pretty much what I've been waiting for, to the point of being reprimanded here for asking it too many times (actually two), but it seems we won't get that with diablo. No new browser engine, no apt-get upgradeability.

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong though.