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Texrat 2008-06-11 14:58
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The locked/unlocked closed/open debate exists largely in the purview of superusers... which I suspect most of us here are. It's relevant to us.

birneyw 2008-06-11 15:12
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someone said earlier about a maemo store... I like the idea especially to get an active sync client (exchange) for the nxxx. Since some of the money that the developer gets has to go to microshaftus. Things might get done faster if someone was doing it for some money.... case in point, when I was growing up, I HAD to mow the lawn every week. bleh, I would do it crappy just to get it done. When I went off to college and stayed summers at home, the parental units offered to pay me everytime the lawn needed mowing. So every 5 days I mowed. More work was done, and the lawn looked better.

In the case of mobleme, we cannot use that, nor our business can use google or the like for email. Our email must be inhouse and not given to a 3rd party for housing.

tso 2008-06-11 15:58
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on the topic of development for the iphone. last time i checked the sdk can only be used on a x86 mac...

now correct me if im wrong, but is there not a virtual machine image out for the dev environment for maemo? meaning that you can in theory develop for the N8x0 on whatever machine that can run the virtual machine?

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-11 16:05
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Originally Posted by tso (Post 190975)
now correct me if im wrong, but is there not a virtual machine image out for the dev environment for maemo? meaning that you can in theory develop for the N8x0 on whatever machine that can run the virtual machine?
Well, the vmware image can run in x86, anyway. PPC owners can use qemu directly, though.

tso 2008-06-11 16:10
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 190799)
A half-hearted attempt to what it should be... What does it offer? A few applications for english speaking users.

Its not localised, so it scares off customers in markets like france, germany, finnland,...
just a note, i dont know about those, but here in norway english is a mandatory second language...

also, i find myself preferring the english language versions vs the translated ones. for one thing, the documentation is more complete. and there is less odd concept translations. i recently reported what i initially thought was a bug related to on-screen keyboard sounds, but later discovered that the setting was about the physical keys on my N800. reason? what was labeled keys in english had picked up the norwegian word for keyboard on translation.

also, when it comes to computers, english is lingua franca, like it or not.

hell, the number of translated apps vs english only apps on any platform is depressing, with open source ones being a beacon of hope most of the time.

phi 2008-06-11 16:54
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 190942)
The locked/unlocked closed/open debate exists largely in the purview of superusers... which I suspect most of us here are. It's relevant to us.
Yes, it is, but then the debate goes on and on about how the interface is dumbed down, and its for the masses, but then there is this continual lament about how the NIT hasn't hit critical mass. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-11 17:05
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Originally Posted by phi (Post 190997)
Yes, it is, but then the debate goes on and on about how the interface is dumbed down, and its for the masses, but then there is this continual lament about how the NIT hasn't hit critical mass. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
I think you're confusing different people complaining about different things. ;) We're not a giant hive mind.

Laughing Man 2008-06-11 17:06
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Originally Posted by phi (Post 190997)
Yes, it is, but then the debate goes on and on about how the interface is dumbed down, and its for the masses, but then there is this continual lament about how the NIT hasn't hit critical mass. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
True there needs to be a nice balance point (which is why I'm looking forward to Google Android myself, it seems to offer both).

Texrat 2008-06-11 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phi (Post 190997)
Yes, it is, but then the debate goes on and on about how the interface is dumbed down, and its for the masses, but then there is this continual lament about how the NIT hasn't hit critical mass. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Actually I think we can, and I suspect that's exactly why the tablets are what they are (I am not privy to the full agenda unfortunately).

Here's where I have to shut up though. :p

sjgadsby 2008-06-11 17:17
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 191001)
We're not a giant hive mind.
Is that step 4?


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