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Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

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Originally Posted by mhamza (Post 854211)

i am sure that there is somewhere in those huge books teaching advanced marketing, part that is talking about meeting your clients expectations, what they need and what they want to have.

So go talk to Nokia. WE have no clients. WE are not marketing people. This is a user forum, and all you've done is complain to a bunch of users who are, arguably, in the same boat with you.

Yet 21 posts in the only thing you came to this forum for was to complain. Please, take it to where it actually might possibly conceivably reach the ears of the people who matter. Ditto for everyone else who decided it'd be a good idea to attack other users, and those who keep egging them on.

Reserve this board for actually making things work. 159 posts in and this thread is just a huge pile of unhelpful, damaging crap.

Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

you guys do no Nokia does not official support the N900?
So if you aint happy with it...Fudge Off!

Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

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Originally Posted by deyons (Post 854225)

you guys do no Nokia does not official support the N900?

Err, they do. They can't summarily drop my warranty. What's funny is I don't see anyone raising hell about all the handsets released by HTC and the like in the past year or so that are now totally unsupported.

Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

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Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 854029)

the point is it is 2010 and devices from 2009 from other companies are still getting robust advancements in terms of updates/functionality. so if you think of the n900 as the baby and nokia as the parents, the parents have not been nearly as good to their baby as other parents have been to theirs.

well. The kid might be to greedy...

Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

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Originally Posted by mhamza (Post 854211)

Very nice and funny although i find it irrelevant, but thanks to make us laugh, it is really rare nowadays

It was low blow on expectations what people nowadays have and how fast we take something for granted. Some people have gone clusterfck. Just read some technology blogs from north america and comment sections. Generation "non-contributing zero".

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You accept, i Expect, it is personal difference that make some people stay still and others improve, and take over the market.

I am a doctor am no developer and also am not a marketing man, but i am sure that there is somewhere in those huge books teaching advanced marketing, part that is talking about meeting your clients expectations, what they need and what they want to have.
let me take the navigation as an example, if Nokia said it frankly that this N900 is impossible to have navigation on, i would shut up and know that this is technical issue that am no expert in.
but,
when Sygic can develop it and it is working (not free), AND Nokia provide for less advanced, cheaper, and non competing devices!!
excuse me
i find this strange

Point here is that do not WASTE your personal time on giving feedback here to Nokia or trying to get some therapy hugs from fellow mates who have also ended up with same situation as you. Wrong place. Do not expect. When I was child I wished different kind of things. Sadly those days are over and today only thing i can count is just me and my personal experiences (thank god for consumer laws that give me right to send stuff back that doesnt work as expected)

Life is too short. Best feedback for company x is to leave their products on shelves next time and talk about experiences at least 6 friends (what was average on this?) and buy something else. I bet that after awhile they remember again that what they are suppose to do.

And thing what you are missing is probably ROUTING and more specifically AUTOMATIC ROUTING and probably voice navigation. Be careful with the terms. N900 already has navigation to some extent but what are the terms & standards that define navigation? I bet that we could have n+1 pages of conversation about this simple matter and still didn´t get to any resolution.

ps.
Never had navigation on smartphone that beats my tomtom in car :|

Re: PR 1.3 LITTLE changes with HUGE DISAPPOINT!!!

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 854217)

Thanks for proving that most of those reading are arguing without understanding, this might be a problem with centers of explaination, but it is not to be solved here anyway
i am not complaining, let me simplify it to you in a way you might understand...
when someone like you post such superficial comment
i have to reply and explain , am not obliged, but you can take as if you dont really like people act smart and think they are not biaced such comment of yours is a pure example of non sense useless comments that is only a trial to attract attention to your kind care about these forums as if you are a guard?
believe me peopleare much smarter now so if you dont really find it useful, go somewhere else and post, it is simple

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Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 853412)

since this thread is full of bad analogies let me join.

mommy and daddy apple have some money saved. on xmas and bday's baby iphone gets some new pants and shoes. mommy and daddy android have a (well quite a few) babies and they do the same.

mommy and daddy nokia have a baby called the n900. he had lots of holes in his shoes and pants. occasionally his parents sow up his jeans and patch his shoes. yes he has pants and shoes but he grows up wondering why the other parents buy their kids new cloths while his are all full of stitches and patches.

see I told you it would be bad. point is people payed good money for the n900 and that is a bit like a hand shake. true nowhere in writing does it say you are entitled to this or that....but if you were a parent and you could buy your kid some new stuff, wouldn't you?

it is all about expectations and expectations are set in large part by what competition are providing for like priced goods. the "oh I was never explicitly promised anything" argument while technically correct is really pretty lame.

you payed $500 or more for a device and similar priced devices from the competition get all sorts of new features on a routine basis? and you expect people not to express disapointment? common now...

Actually the analogy would be true if daddy Nokia said you weren't going receive the good stuff yet you still hope it comes.Which is exactly what happened.

Like I said before, feel free to express disapointment, but it seems rather odd to complain that what you expected dudn't come when Nokia said your not getting it.

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If Nokia isn't tracking the posts here, they are really dumb. Good point, they probably AREN'T tracking the posts here.

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 854295)

If Nokia isn't tracking the posts here, they are really dumb. Good point, they probably AREN'T tracking the posts here.

This is a very good and respectable way of thinking
in the aggressive market competition, every manufacturer is supposed to track the echo of any update or plan at the level of users rather than the level of meetings halls.

For those keep saying GO TO NOKIA , GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.........
NO
it is one of the places that we talk and exchange whatever you like to name it, and if they are smart they are supposed know that people are talking somewhere.
I believe that we are providing them a very very non-paid useful help that would cost them a fortune, can you imagine how much it would cost them to collect data about feedbacks and ideas and more important what users think of thier competitors?

Plz stop attacking the post and try to turn it into useful one, stop trying to attract attention to you and direct it to options that we really need.