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zwer 2012-02-03 04:41
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
XNA on the WP is not the same as general XNA - a lot of functionality is missing, and there are some non-general API layers for the Metro tie-in. That's why I said - the ones willing to go down that route.

Tho the numbers don't really matter, a good programmer will master a new API or even a whole new programming language in relatively short time. Script kiddies won't, but I don't think that their apps is what the world is craving for. While there might well be more Qt devs than the ones suitable to develop for WP, after the Feb'11 announcement I doubt many of them would use their knowledge to develop mobile apps... So, not all is in numbers...

P.S. Mono lineage is almost dead (interest-wise), tho the Silverlight was an abortion as well until they forced it onto WP...

ibrakalifa 2012-02-03 05:43
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
lets talk about the hardware in the n9 please, its same set with lg optimus black, and funniest thing is nokia sold it with overpriced one, what a holy crap!!

ossipena 2012-02-03 06:23
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1159297)
You are the one who should educate yourself. Vertu sales in units are small but they are sold at big profit margins. To quote from gsmarena

"Vertu’s profit, as part of Nokia, isn’t public yet, but the paper estimated an annual revenue somewhere between €200m and €300m ($268 million and $402 million)"

If you think WP7 sales will follow iphone's trend just go on dreaming. On what basis will it follow iphone?
So you think that nokia won't get paid for vertu according to those revenues?

ossipena 2012-02-03 06:29
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz (Post 1159314)
Sales taking off has more to do with being available in many more international markets and the arrival of iPhone 3G with a LOT of improvements that made iOS (more?) mature with native apps and appstore. Besides it's more like 1 year in stead of 2.
So you think there will be zero improvements to WP7 in the future? No new content to whatever their appstore is called?

No matter how much iOS has improved, it cannot match (yet) with microsofts cloud systems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz (Post 1159314)
And at the launch of iPhone it was already clear after a couple of months that the device was a killer. can't compare that situation to WP7/Nokia now.
When looking to the past now, it is obivous that there were signs in couple of months that correlate very strongly to the success. This is just a strong indicator for the fact that you are the one who needs to study more economics.

ibrakalifa 2012-02-03 06:46
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WP is suck!! linux is for the future!!!

ossipena 2012-02-03 06:53
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 1159686)
  • Integration with MS version of DropBox, Skydrive
What do you mean about integration? Camera app can be set to upload smaller versions of images taken straight to skydrive automatically and integration with office tools is seamless imo. In addition there is also an app in the marketplace for better control.

ossipena 2012-02-03 06:56
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Originally Posted by ioncelmare (Post 1159729)
after android got a lot of updates
yeah, SGS has broken every record with updates, crappy symbians had only couple updates per device ;)

don_falcone 2012-02-03 07:37
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1159810)
WP is suck!! linux is for the future!!!
More unsubstantial stuff. Bang goes the killfile.

ArnimS 2012-02-03 07:56
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1158677)
WP doesn't allow manufacturers to put their own UI layer like Android. Each WP phone works and feels the same as any other. In terms of hardware Nokia is pretty much constrained by the OS - eg, no NFC support, no micro-SD support, no multicore support, max internal storage is 16GB, no divx/xvid video support, etc.

But the greatest impediment to WP is the name Windows Phone itself. Nobody wants Windows on their phones as it is associated with a bloated, buggy, malware infested OS and a monopolistic Microsoft. Of course they are different but the name and automatic association rankles.

MS will lead Nokia to an early grave, no doubt about that.
That^ needs to be read by everybody again.

ibrakalifa 2012-02-03 08:16
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1159820)
More unsubstantial stuff. Bang goes the killfile.
android->linux based
maemo->pure one


lol WP?, go to hell:D


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