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Yeah if it really means both markets by Oct. at the latest, then it's not that bad after all, I always felt June/July was a bit too ambitious/unrealistic anyway.
Availability in Oct. means they'll have their phone out at more-or-less the same time as Canonical*, & Canonical's 1st device is a low-end one, so they won't be competing directly.
Plus they'll be able to recoup some momentum they lost to Ubuntu**, thanks to their device being more appealing than Canonical's low-end affair...

*assuming Canonical's recent claims aren't a bit overly ambitious, which I suspect are
**because of it's ability to leverage existing high-end Android devices

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Best video so far.
They have certainly done some visible work and it does feel more of a proper OS now than a tech demo it was on the first reveal.

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Again just the media player and gallery. Btw was that the opera icon when he was showing the app grid? When are they gonna show us some of that?

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yeah it was opera, opera is also moving to webkit browser that looks interesting

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/26/40...nds-on-preview

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/27/40...-800-supremacy

This will probably come in devices when jolla finally is ready to release.

How low speed can jolla go and still call it premium. They cant ignore hw completly even if sailfish running on low end.

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Interviewer: "do you expect to have some android apps ported at launch?"

Stefano: "there is no need to port anything, they run unmodified."

:D

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Running is one thing, usability is another.
That would be nice. But from now on its seeing before believing when it comes to troll... Sorry, joll

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Yep that was always Myriad's whole approach with Alien Dalvik, very minimal amount needed to be done...
I can't recall the detail, but I vaguely recall there was even tools provided (so long as the OS/device OEM was willing to work with them) to make the app look almost completely native.
That was one of the things that was originally being touted for Harmattan + AD....

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O stop this ridicilous discussions about "ecosystem"

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Everything in that interview screams out that it's going to have relatively mediocre specs, yet they're still going to target it as "high-end", but with "mid-tier" pricing.
It better damn well be mid-tier pricing if the hw (overall) is mid-tier*, it also gels with stuff I've researched previously, & subsequently surmised/posted about.

*having top-notch build_quality/enclosure only doesn't count as having top-notch hw nowadays, you need that "+" top-notch SoC/Display etc, else you're mid-tier.

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Why do you need topmost triple core device on a smartphone
Take a look at the N950 with Sailfish it seems run ok on a three year old device. So even if its a year old SoC its probadly very good on salfish.

Again its not a bloated Android OS were talking about.

People are fools and blinded by latest specs.

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I can live with it, that's not my point, I can see the write-ups in major tech blogs, that's where the damage will come, if it's mediocre hw (overall) is reflected by a price that's much less than top-end devices, then that may be considered by bloggers & result in a better conclusion, but it'll always be qualified (rightly or wrongly) by: "but you're not getting the latest l337 hw, & that's a concern for xyz reason".

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Something is special about the display, from Jollafr.org in an interview of Marc Dillon:

He (Marc) said that Jolla is using a new screen technology, that could technically manage LPM, but cannot be used practically because of QHD resolution. He concluded the discussion by saying that Jolla will release a different phone, with a fantastic display and a great user experience.

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Interesting... QHD is fail though, but not necessarily if it's priced right, I guess...

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QHD? On what size, 4,5-5''? Frankly i'm not too comfortable with low DPI after working with Galaxy Nexus display. It's the same reason that 1024x768 on 9.7'' looks sh7te.

If resources are there, you (or someone else) can and will always use / max them out. Better "better" hardware than too little. (Nokia's Symbian devices, anyone?)

If bloated enables me to do my tasks without swearing or broken implementations, that's ok i guess.

Often. Not always.

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QHD like qHD seems to be pretty weak indeed, but actually I didn't understood what Marc said exactly. He was saying HD or QHD. What if it was WQHD ?

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I am hoping they will use a LPM-screen I can not live without a Stand-by screen anymore. :D

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I'm also worried about that, my hope is that since they are mostly ex nokians, the stand by screen might be in thier dna.

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Q: Will Sailfish have support for AMOLED standby screens like the N9 has? Might Jolla devices use AMOLED? Loved it on N85 & N9.
Jolla: The system can support it, but it is dependent on the display hardware.

https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/304262318051704833

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about new screen tech...

transparent screen maybe?

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Would be awesome!
The apps are transparent, so I'm curious about how would it look in a transparent screen (without the background image)...

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Nokia 701 has lpm with LCD

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can anyone tll me if sailfish will be working on n900

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Nope, it won't.

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New video with salifish os from MWC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_RVQVtiL1os

with the nokia N950 :)

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Posted already but thanks, keep em coming if you see anything else of interest.

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Mobil kollar in Sailfish OS och pratar med Jolla

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First page updated. Please, continue folks!

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Damnit... I'm guessing we won't see anything in Canada - short of importing - until 2014 at the earliest.

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Not sure if this was posted. Interesting keynotes from Mitchell Baker, Mark Shuttleworth and Marc Dillon at MWC:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YkEb3WSs3CI

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One more demo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tQpt0DguEk

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could be the android ''engine'' from jolla be ported to maemo and hartman , this is the real question ,maemo/and meego with android store , this would be a whole new level

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They use ACL, so they license it. It's not up to them to port it (and naturally it's not redistributable).

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Thought it was Myriad Alien Dalvik

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Right, I got them mixed up :) Either way - it's not redistributable.

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gPodder Sailfish demo preview....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysXB_...ature=youtu.be

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a lot of things are not redistributable but are still here :)

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Sailfish is partly closed source.

Nemo works on the N900 and should be compatible with Sailfish.

Sailfish looks pretty fast on an N950 -- which has roughly identical hardware to the N9.
Unfortunately for N9 owners, their hardware is quite closed. By comparison, the N900 is more open but very memory limited. It's a better bet to get Sailfish apps running satisfactorily on the N900 than on the N9 but it depends how lean Nemo becomes.

My takeaway about the hardware specs for Jolla is that they are coming to market with a dual core device and are trying to avoid being placed in the 'mediocre tech' category by focusing away from specs and towards UX. I imagine sort of like what BB10 did.

Well, that'll be labeled 'mediocre tech,' just like BB10 has been. Not bad, but not even close to what the leading companies will be producing at that time.

As far as the Android experience is concerned, the difference will be in what version of Android apps will be running in the Jolla Android environment. BB10 should have Android 4.1 running later this year, and hopefully Jolla will have something equivalent or better.

I'm tired of the justification of low specs. I remember the 'why do we need more than one core' debate as the N9 was defended. Well, the performance advantage of higher specs seems pretty well established and I still wish the N9 had two cores to work with. I'm sure that they would have been put to good use.

On the positive side, the Jolla UI seems very nice, and probably would have been PR1.4 if Elop hadn't messed things up! I hope that Sailfish comes to the N9 soon, as I have no intention to sell mine and I'm hoping my N9 lasts a while longer.

For 'normal' consumers, specs are like everything (beside social and games). For 'people' in TMO, they have seen that lower specs doesn't mean bad, just like the N900.

I just had to say it. Sorry.