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no worries! ;)

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Do you plan to buy one very advance 3D printer or several cheap ones?

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Hello! Tipped off some Norwegian IT sites, but nothing (yet).
Found one here though:
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/tohkbd...er-06-11-2014/

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We are stuck just below 100K :(

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Don't worry Dave, there are 26 days left :)

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It must be a bug in the counter. Call Kickstarter support. Call the police. Bring everyone...

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Due to large overshoot, we can change to fancier magnets and thinner connection pads. This shaves some off the thickness.

Previously, the magnets were limiting factor, now the base pcb and casing wall thickness are limiting factors. Making the casing thinner is not possible and making the pcb thinner will increase the risk of making a bad connection.

New phone+base thickness: 11.5mm!


Also, managed to get a short term loan, so we can start ordering some custom parts and machinery. I've already ordered: pick&place machine, re-flow oven and solder stencil printer. This will speed up production a lot.

Delivery in April was very much on the safe side -better to be on that side- since I originally thought I'd do a month of marketing instead of hitting in 7 hours. So we can maybe/probably shave some weeks off.

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Great News!

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Great to hear!

Even better!
Can't wait to get this lovely device in my hands...

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Btw, you should advertise this in some form in your Kickstarter so this all doesn't go unnoticed ;)

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That was a great update! :)

Now I think most people are eagerly waiting for some news on how many backers would be needed to start considering injection molding (as this would surely be what would result in the biggest leap forward in terms of finish) and, if so, if that would allow even thinner design (by reducing wall thickness) or if the limits are the same.

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Why do you ask a question? To know the answer, of course! Well, I'm not the one who asked, but I guess the asker was hoping Dirk has some inside information. But I guess we'll just have to deal with the uncertainty :)

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if Dirk has insider info he wouldnt be able to comment because he would be under an NDA

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way over 1000. I would love to have a desktop injection molder here and make parts with epoxy molds! But I do not have one, nor the experience, nor the money. And even if I had, I cannot guarantee the resulting part has the required quality and strength.

With the current way we get -in my opinion- a very nice part with -in my opinion- a nice subtle grainy finish, that can be reordered in the future by me or anyone else (#opensource) in case of damage or if someone want another colour.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...rack_obama.gif

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Just as an outsider (don't have a Jolla and hence sadly not a backer) have you asked for a quote from protomold? They advertise being able to mold even "small" batches.

I'm in no way affiliated with them, just curious.

I am in for a TOHKBD, too. Like this project very much.

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We are now at 99809 EUR !
Only two more kbd-backers needed to get to 100k...

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So Dirk would reveal very, very unpredictable information (because the JP2 is far from being finished, so who knows what might change with what they know now!) and thus being known as a 'leak' which would hurt his and Jolla's reputation? Yeah, sure, that'll happen. In a parallel universe, perhaps.

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Jolla TOHKBD #765 for Father's Day (in Finland) present - over 100k€ Kickstarter funding reached - 25 Days to go. Backer #764 had the honor to break the 100k goal. Will still get some TOHKBDs soon.

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€100,000 LEt's PaaaarTy! Party all over the world. Good job everybody! Ok. Friends. Case Closed. Goal reached. I´m out!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...1266412815.gif

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No... The goals is NOT reached untill I get my hands on the TOHKBD :p

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right...

okay went thru the effort of scanning all pages for android & found Benny's post & thus your answer...
apologises if the question has already been asked / answered since (or before) but it would obviously be rather pointless to search for Jolla...

in how far is Jolla working with the TOHKBD in mind?
if they were, wouldn't the vkb disappear altogether as it is on the N900 (e.g.)?
or do they simply not give a damn? who cares about a QWERTY & All keyboard in India ( http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6...vanagari.1.jpg )
or China ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...raditional.png ),
right?

this being said, nice effort!
do you have any indication of the price?

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they have a working proto and we are working together a lot

because sw is not yet done. please be patient and do not expect seamless perfect sw&hw when you see a video with 'prototype' in the title.

uch.

ehhh.... yes i have? you have missed the kickstarter campaign?

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TOHKBD Kickstarter campaign is gaining interest, German tech-news site golem.de has an article about it: golem.de (German)

Maybe this will bring us closer to the magical 1000 backers mark ;)

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Marketing effort pays off. More press coverage in Finland, TiVi writing about project exceeding 100k€ mark (in Finnish): http://www.tivi.fi/kaikki_uutiset/jo...hitti/a1027341

Top 4 most read article today. Sailing towards +1000 backers!

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More coverage...

• http://mobiili.fi/2014/11/10/fyysise...a-puhelimesta/

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Beaten #4 of most successful dutch campaign, another 50k and I get the bronze :D

http://www.nutech.nl/internet/391721...kstarters.html

crazy stuff. working hard, soon more updates!

also, almost we are almost doubling! (if that is a word) :D

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This thing make me sorry for canceling my Jolla preorder. Very nice job!

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Will the custom black polished colour match the black of the phone itself?

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the black prints are a bit mat and a bit grainy. as stated on ks-page, search for solartoh or toholed, same printer, same base file.


in other news: i can *maybe* shave off 0.9mm of bottom slider piece (the detachable thing that holds the keypad), but have to do some tests and magnets will be visible.

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@dirkvl

did you consider the comment from slarti? Sounds pretty interesting from reading their website.

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yes. looking into all sorts of things, but do not want to "make everybody happy with a dead sparrow" as i have no experience with injection molding.

when/if i have something meaningful to say about this subject, i will, but it is much easier said then done.

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Sure, evaluate it properly, just wanted to be sure you are aware of it.

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heres an idea thats clearly good and terrible at the same time.

when the keyboard is connected aka to the magnetic strip a beautiful hildon like ui greets you for a full desktop mode in landscape only and when removed boom your back to one handed sailfish...for watching porn...

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810 sold so far, 190 to reach the 1000 mark - or 8-9 TOHKBD's a day.

Very achievable. If we see the total rise by ~€2000 a day, we'll know we're on course.

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I think that the black solartoh looks a bit tatty in the picture. On the other hand, I know that the alumide looks much better in reality.

But it's already showing the contacts, so it's not that clean to begin with. I also assume that the magnetic bond will be a bit stronger with less material between them? How would the magnets be fastned? Glue?

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no no no no no

it is about the BOTTOM piece, not the piece that connects to the phone but the detachable sliding piece that holds the keypad.

also, have to do a lot of tests to make sure this will work, so NOT DEFINITIVE!

section view
http://oi61.tinypic.com/n2c1zo.jpg

view from the bottom
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2rr76l3.jpg

exqueeze me for #paintskillz

again, this is just a POSSIBILITY i run by you guys. magnets visible or not from the bottom <-> 4 mm or 5mm

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I'm all for slimmer design, but could the holes in the wood not be problematic? Could it get fringed?

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huh? no there are no holes in the wood, it is shaped like

http://oi60.tinypic.com/fp9x76.png

and surrounded by the casing, so all edges are protected (like in drawing)